No, it doesn't. Someone stated that VZW wouldn't get the iPhone. That doesn't say anything about any other technology Apple has (iPad, iPod, etc.). You definitely overgeneralized here, taking one thing to be all-inclusive. It may not be.
That one post notwithstanding, others have said that Apple will never do business with Verizon. I don't mean to overgeneralize, but I'm pulling from historical statements in this forum.
To clarify, I'm responding to your statement that "Apple already made CDMA Phones <snip>". While CDMA phones may have been manufactured (they must have if Verizon is getting them Q1
), the fact is no CDMA iPhone has been sold. So the CDMA iPhone is NOT officially working in China already, which is how I read your statment. And if you're statement just means they've been made but not sold, I guess that could be true of China Telecom as well as Verizon. But as of now all of this is conjecture (unless you have inside knowledge??).
Forgot China Unicom sold their CDMA network to China Telecom.
Re-read my post again. I said EXCLUDING CHINA. What part of that do you not understand?
China was only an example I gave, but my statement still stands that there are hundreds of other CDMA carriers around the world that have not committed to migrating to LTE. Just because Verizon does it, doesn't mean they will all follow. Don't get me wrong, I think it would be great if we had one global standard with the same frequencies all over. But we'll more likely see an end to war before all the countries of the world agree to such a thing.
Oooh.. sounds like I hit a soft spot with you and CDMA. Anywho, I'll avoid that and get back on topic.
Mostly because it seems to be criticized by a lot of people in forums who have no foundation for their criticism.
How wrong you seem to be. My preference revolves around interoperability of my device with any network I please. And seeing that the bulk of the world has standardized on one single mobile device standard, it is plainly clear to see which one needs to be used, not one that some company makes on their own and tries to make that the standard.
"Some company" is Qualcomm I guess (I guess you can blam them, but definately not Verizon). And it is recognized as a standard worldwide (IS-95 and now IS-2000). It's just that it was more expensive, perhaps due to Qualcomm's licensing, so not all networks decided to use it. Again, Beta vs VHS here....just stretched out over many more years.
I don't hate on Verizon except for the experiences my SO had, in which she could sneeze with her phone, and it would drop calls. One step in any direction from where she was standing, and calls were dropped. This was while I was even standing next to her with a Nokia phone on a GSM network, and had no problems whatsoever.
We've all had experiences like this on multiple networks. I had a phone like this on Sprint (back when they were pretty good) and thought it was a network issue. Issues were resolved with a new phone.
I had similar issues with my first phone (WCDMA) on AT&T. Turns out the WCDMA network was still new and untuned (they shouldn't have launched it like that). They've improved 10-fold since.
It was this same phone, as well my iPhone that I took to Canada (obviously on different occasions), and was able to drop a sim card into those to use on their networks there, which worked fine. Same with my friend's iPhone that they bought in Australia, and was able to do the same thing here on ATT's network. I should not have to buy a new phone, even the same model of phone for every different network I may use.
As I mentioned before, show me any phone on Verizon's network that can do that.
85% of the world was using TDMA or a variant of GSM by 1999.
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Yes, using SIMs is great, just like using RUIM is great. This IS something we can blame on Sprint and Verizon for not implementing.
No, 85% of the world was not on GSM by 1999. That is today's statistic. Back in 1999 Australia and Canada hadn't even switched.
And why would 1999 stats be any indication to look at when the networks that now comprise Verizon were built out years before that? And as with anything American, why should we have to choose an inferior technology just becuase other countries have? Sure, GSM has moved from TDMA to WCDMA and has now finally caught up and passed the current CDMA networks, but that took over a decade.
In the meantime, millions of American's were able to choose between a carrier that sold phones that could travel to some foreign countries more easily or a carrier that had a better quality of voice on their phones as well as fast data for laptops as well as phones. (Again, GSM has caught up in these areas, but only in the last 2 years.)
I see you decided you wanted interoperability. Understandable. But not everyone needs that and it's no reason to bash the other technology since the other technology had it's advantages at the time as well. At that time I bought my first CDMA phone (before that I was on TDMA), I couldn't afford to travel out of the US much anyway. Now that I'm older that's changed. Lucky for me, the places I've travelled have CDMA and I was just able to roam on my existing CDMA phone. More expensive, but who wants to constantly be on the phone while travelling anyway (my travels are not for business). In Korea when I knew I would use it for a lot of local calls, I rented a phone. No biggie. (I also made a call or 2 on my personal CDMA phone).
Yes, I agree it will be very nice when we all move to LTE and we all have SIMs and we can hop around from network to network. I share the same dream. All I'm asking is that people stop needlessly slamming both CDMA and Verizon without really looking into the history and realizing how and why they got where they are today. Most of the criticism I've seen is either completely wrong/uninformed or doesn't take into account why decisions where made over a decade ago.
I also don't like it when people slam AT&T without informed reason. The only reason I slam them was for a bad WCDMA migration and not upgrading their 2G areas.
Edit: I'll add this, that while CDMA is continuing to be developed, they seem to have hit a wall of sorts. The next revisions don't bump up the speeds in the same way that LTE can. So I do see CDMA potentially dying a slow death globally. But it will take decades, just like iDEN.
