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Why do people believe this?

It's not happening.

Stop being fools.

I wish it would, just so that people can stop talking about it.

I'm preparing a dish of crow for you now. Do you like it fried? Baked? Smoked? Just let me know because you're going to be choking on it tomorrow.

I'd offer you a friendly wager but that wouldn't be fair since I have inside information. Still, it's going to be fun to read your back peddling.
 
Actually, VZ said the would welcome the iPhone, but like all other phones, they wanted to control the software and everything else. Jobs told them to shove it.

If you're going to repeat a fanboy myth, at least get it right. Most versions say that Verizon slammed the door in Jobs' face :rolleyes:

According to the WSJ, Apple approached Verizon in addition to Cingular. At the time, there was no iPhone even in prototype stage. It was just a vague idea of an iPod phone. However, Apple wanted to control sales distribution, warranty and sell all music downloads. Verizon said they had nothing against Apple, but couldn't come to an agreement.

Apple continued off and on to contact Verizon over most of a year, but nothing came of it, and efforts simply dribbled to a halt. There was no door slamming on either side, unlike the teenage fanboy fantasies.

In fact, after the phone was shown off, Apple and Verizon took up talks again, as both sides soon realized they had made a mistake... Verizon for not saying yes to an unknown device, and Apple for bowing to ATT's exclusive demand.

It may have changed in the past few years since I left VZ, but compare the same phone on VZ and another network...the other network's phone had better software and fewer, if any, features were disabled.

You must've only owned dumb phones. The only thing that VZ changed on smartphones was the GPS access and that was originally because it used their special assistance servers.
 
I'm preparing a dish of crow for you now. Do you like it fried? Baked? Smoked? Just let me know because you're going to be choking on it tomorrow.

I'd offer you a friendly wager but that wouldn't be fair since I have inside information. Still, it's going to be fun to read your back peddling.

Why would I back peddle.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I'm man enough to admit that.

Like I've said previously, it doesn't really mean much to me. I for one would love to see the iPhone on Verizon, in hopes that Verizon would offer free tethering. Thus resulting in AT&T doing the same. But I doubt that will happen.
 
I'm preparing a dish of crow for you now. Do you like it fried? Baked? Smoked? Just let me know because you're going to be choking on it tomorrow.

I'd offer you a friendly wager but that wouldn't be fair since I have inside information. Still, it's going to be fun to read your back peddling.

I think you are right. It would be rather funny if the poster is correct and either:

1) Verizon never makes a contract with Apple
2) The announcement is not today or tomorrow like some predict
3) The announcement happens, but in the summer of this year or later

Once Apple is on with Verizon, and probably still with ATT, we will have a choice but there will still be wars on iPhone vs Droid vs Blackberry.

Many are pretty set on what they like and it won't make any difference who does what. I am probably the minority here not really wanting or needing an iPhone, never having owned an iPod, and only having purchased less than ten dollars worth on iTunes.

Even though I know Apple is some 60%+ percent on stuff other than Macs and Apple software, it's still a nice thing Apple still makes Macs and develops software because they could easily survive on iPhone, or iTunes, or iPod alone. All the naysayers of the Beatles ate a whole flock of crows within 24 hours of the supposedly outdated Fab Four making their official debut to iTunes.

This Verizon thing (if it happens which it most certainly seems to be) will bring new heights for Apple with Verizon being slightly more prevalent than ATT.

Well, anyway, 20 hours and some minutes before the supposed deadline for an announcement and I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something official today.
 
Death of Unlimited Data?

I have a 'Berry Storm on VZW. I also have the mandatory $30 Unlimited Data plan for said 'Berry.

I just got this text message:

From: 900080003493
Received: Jan 10, 2011 1:47 PM
FREE VZW msg: Click http://mobile.vzw.com/bb to begin My Verizon Mobile upgrade including Data Usage application

Why do I need an upgrade to the Data Usage app when most every BlackBerry user had to buy the Unlimited? Why highlight that app in this text message? I know WSJ predicts (along with the obvious) that there will be Unlimited Data plans for the iPhone. I'm not so sure. I thought Big Red would be killing Unlimited Data this month anyway, and bundling the announcement of said killing within an announcement of the new iPhone seems to be a way of softening the blow (or pulling a fast one depending on your view.)
 
I have a 'Berry Storm on VZW. I also have the mandatory $30 Unlimited Data plan for said 'Berry.

I just got this text message:

From: 900080003493
Received: Jan 10, 2011 1:47 PM
FREE VZW msg: Click http://mobile.vzw.com/bb to begin My Verizon Mobile upgrade including Data Usage application

Why do I need an upgrade to the Data Usage app when most every BlackBerry user had to buy the Unlimited? Why highlight that app in this text message? I know WSJ predicts (along with the obvious) that there will be Unlimited Data plans for the iPhone. I'm not so sure. I thought Big Red would be killing Unlimited Data this month anyway, and bundling the announcement of said killing within an announcement of the new iPhone seems to be a way of softening the blow (or pulling a fast one depending on your view.)

Verizon just announced new data plans a few weeks ago. That included a $30 unlimited plan. They aren't going to squash it this month. Although I think they may sometime in the next year.
 
I have a 'Berry Storm on VZW. I also have the mandatory $30 Unlimited Data plan for said 'Berry.

I just got this text message:

From: 900080003493
Received: Jan 10, 2011 1:47 PM
FREE VZW msg: Click http://mobile.vzw.com/bb to begin My Verizon Mobile upgrade including Data Usage application

Why do I need an upgrade to the Data Usage app when most every BlackBerry user had to buy the Unlimited? Why highlight that app in this text message? I know WSJ predicts (along with the obvious) that there will be Unlimited Data plans for the iPhone. I'm not so sure. I thought Big Red would be killing Unlimited Data this month anyway, and bundling the announcement of said killing within an announcement of the new iPhone seems to be a way of softening the blow (or pulling a fast one depending on your view.)


Probably because no one has any idea how much data they use. Some people may be able to down grade their data plan to save a few bucks every month. Since you can access the info on your phone this would also be handy if you are on the lower tiered data plan and want to make sure you don't go over your data limit.
 
AT&T users cant use iPhones inside of restaurants? where did you get that crap from? LMAO...you're a pretty smart guy and your posts are usually prety informative but that statement is blatantly false

As you know, I wouldn't have said it if I didn't have personal experience. Where I live, ATT coverage is terrible inside many restaurants. When I had a Verizon Pixi I used to turn on its hotspot so the iPhone users in our lunch group could access their email.

and Verizion does not offer free wifi hot sots because retailers and businesses typically don't want to work with them i.e. starbucks, mcdonalds etc...

That would be a surprise to Starbucks. Verizon has free WiFi hotspots for FiOS and DSL customers, most especially including Starbucks. Their directory is here. However, yes, the Wireless business side apparently doesn't think their customers need WiFi to fall back on. With over ten years' experience on their smartphones, I tend to agree.

It's both clever and sad that AT&T adds WiFi to tourist areas like Times Square in order to prevent their network from overloading.
 
To be honest, I really don't care who gets the iPhone (Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, or MetroPCS matter of fact) as long it's for the sake of "Competition" and it flares competition because then "Consumer" wins. But, I truly hope Verizon gets it since it will def have big impacts on competitiveness and innovation.
 
AT&T users cant use iPhones inside of restaurants? where did you get that crap from? LMAO...you're a pretty smart guy and your posts are usually prety informative but that statement is blatantly false

and Verizion does not offer free wifi hot sots because retailers and businesses typically don't want to work with them i.e. starbucks, mcdonalds etc...

Starbucks offers free wireless to anyone now
it's provided by AT&T but a Verizon iPhone will still be able to connect to it
 
I sure would wish Verizon would come out and say "We are going to have iPhone coverage!!!!! I repeat, we will have a Verizon iPhone in no more than 3 weeks!!!!". All these posts about a Verizon iPhone are just rumors until a confirmation comes directly from Verizon. We never can be completely sure. I would really hate to see the biggest Verizon iPhone rumor to turn out to be false and have everybody's hopes and dreams get crushed. So please wait for tomorrow and if you're one of those people who would honestly die for a Verizon iPhone get your local suicide hotline and write it down somewhere just in case something catastrophic happens tomorrow.

Now on the other side of the argument it'd be really cool for Apple to allow the iPhone to 2 providers. It really is a breakthrough and the one thing that was holding me back from getting an iPhone was the non-unlimited data plan.

I can just see the adds now: iPhone on at@t and now Verizon. Best of both worlds. (of course that was for bootcamp or parallels (can't remember which))
 
They will use unlimited data to bait as many unsuspecting customers as possible....then yank it just like AT&T did with the iPad. Typical slime ball cellular carrier tactic.

Steve

I doubt it. While Verizon isn't great, AT&T is run by the cheapest bunch of SOBs I've ever seen. They have spent as little as possible improving their network until the last minute and it still sucks.

I can't wait to get a Verizon iPhone. :D
 
ATT will HAPPILY lose all those abusers who hurt the network for the rest of us by using 10-100X the average amount of data.

AT&T sold an unlimited data plan, the users used an unlimited data plan. If you don't want people using unlimited data, don't sell an unlimited data plan.
 
Maybe the (real) iPhone users outside of the US can give their 2cents on how much dropped calls they experience?

I live in asia and have not experienced a single dropped call since getting my iphone 4 about 5 months ago. Although I can't speak for everyone else; I believe it's a network issue and not really related to the phone.
 
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Steve Jobs will make announcement. Not a verizon exec. He has launched every new apple product. Why would he let them take the thunder? I'm not saying he's not going to be there, but let's look at history.
 
right but this is really not a new product, It might just be the existng iPhone 4 on verizon, a phone going to another carrier doesnt mean it's a new phone, really no need for Steve to make a big announcement over it, All the specs and features are still the same, just on Verizon
 
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Steve Jobs will make announcement. Not a verizon exec. He has launched every new apple product. Why would he let them take the thunder? I'm not saying he's not going to be there, but let's look at history.

This is just a new carrier, not a new product. Apple is going to play it cool.
 
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