I don't think Steve would hesitate to hop on his jet and pay a visit to the Big Apple if a ton of money, apple stock bet. $400 and $500 is at stake.
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Verizon iPhone to Ship in A Few Weeks with Unlimited Data Plans?
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I don't think Steve would hesitate to hop on his jet and pay a visit to the Big Apple if a ton of money, apple stock bet. $400 and $500 is at stake.
When in the last decade have you seen Steve Jobs take someone else's stage to present his product?
Apple doesn't even attend CES, because they don't want their brand soiled with the CE products and press releases. And they stopped attending MacWorld, a conference setup for their products, because they could not control it.
Apple insists on controlling the message, which the strongest indication that this is not what people think it is.
No Verizon is. Do you think all the media outlets have lied about the event? That's a pretty big stretch don't you think?
Perhaps SJ isn't coming and Verizon will announce it all on their own. It's not unprecedented. Every other carrier addition has been done w/o Apple.
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They aren't the only source.
I think you'll be the one looking foolish come Tuesday. You already look foolish now for not at least admiting that it seems very possible.
Edit: Just realized...if the troll is awake, must be past my bedtime. Night all.
I'm using a Palm Pre Plus on the Verizon network, and I have the unlimited data package for $30 a month.
My phone also doubles as a mobile hotspot for up to 5 devices, that is capped at 5gb a month.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why I can talk on my phone and browse the web with my laptop via my phones Mobile Hotspot.. actually 5 different people can download music and browse the web via my phones Mobile Hotspot feature, but I can't browse the web *on the phone* and talk at the same time?
My phone also doubles as a mobile hotspot for up to 5 devices, that is capped at 5gb a month.
Perhaps someone can explain to me why I can talk on my phone and browse the web with my laptop via my phones Mobile Hotspot.. actually 5 different people can download music and browse the web via my phones Mobile Hotspot feature, but I can't browse the web *on the phone* and talk at the same time?
These are my speeds on 3G on AT&T. Good enough for me.
Speed on the 4G ATT network is not bad at all. However for many of us its the deployment that sucks. I would gladly give a little speed if it increased my range of places where I can use it.
I've got to say, it's not that big a deal. Not globally, anyway.
Sure, it's a new version of the iPhone, and it'll make many US consumers happy, but pretty much nowhere outside the US will be interested in it. GSM rules the world over, and CDMA doesn't mean anything to most of us.
From what I've observed, network-exclusivity for the iPhone in major markets is pretty much confined to the US now. It'll be nice to open things up there, but this isn't going to fundamentally affect Apple's bottom line. There aren't tens of millions of people in the US waiting for a Verizon iPhone who don't already have one on AT&T.
I dont know, I just hope its not a bunch of false hype but at the same time there is no official documentation claiming to be the iPhone on verizon...if so perhaps what happened is that Apple is allowing verizon to sell a version of the iPhone on their network and ATT holds exclusivity to the white iphone instead and verizon gets what it gets per se.
If its infact not the VZ iPhone like alot have been suggesting, there is going to be a lot of sour folks
I'm of the opinion that it's actually a press release that Apple is *buying* Verizon
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Lol the way I see it both AT&T and Verizon are ripping you off. Come up with a better argument. T-Mobile and SprintNextel have the best pricing options but no wow factors when it comes to phones.
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Lol the way I see it both AT&T and Verizon are ripping you off. Come up with a better argument. T-Mobile and SprintNextel have the best pricing options but no wow factors when it comes to phones.
I liked T-Mobile.. I used a jailbroken iPhone on T-Mobile for almost a year.
Their coverage, at least in my area, just sucked. Even worse than AT&T.
If I lived and regularly traveled in a strong T-Mobile service area, i'd still be with them.
AT&T's super duper network may be great for the 97% of Americans their commercials claim to cover, but for the 3% of us that live, work, or regularly travel in areas where AT&T simply does not work, well.. 1mb of transfer is infinitely preferable to 0mb of transfer.
Out in the sticks, I regularly get 1.5+ mb/s down.
That's plenty fast for my needs.
Um no. If Apple held their own conference then it would be like "Verizon now has the iPhone because att sucked." They are allowing Verizon to announce it because they don't want to say att sucked and lose their business with them. They are playing it cool and allowing Verizon do all the talking.
vverizon international
for those interested, Verizon cdma phones mainly work in US, China, Yemen, and Carribean. They currently have global phones cdma (w/GSM SIM cards) that can be used more places using their expensive international rates...
international coverage/policies:
http://b2b.vzw.com/international/inside_us.html
yes, V can change their policies, phone software, etc at any time... if they do you can cancel w/out termination fee.... see their website instead of speculating and spreading falsities here...
for those interested, Verizon cdma phones mainly work in US, China, Yemen, and Carribean. They currently have global phones cdma (w/GSM SIM cards) that can be used more places using their expensive international rates...
international coverage/policies:
http://b2b.vzw.com/international/inside_us.html
yes, V can change their policies, phone software, etc at any time... if they do you can cancel w/out termination fee.... see their website instead of speculating and spreading falsities here...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-apple-boost-sales-combat-google-and-rim.html
New Bloomberg article. Nothing not already stated, but add's some confirmations from Verizon/ATT about the "life in the slow lane" and "there is an event on the 11th" but no further details. Just the confirmation of where that slow quote came from, and whom @ Verizon confirmed there is "a" event on that date, but nothing else.
New Bloomberg article. Nothing not already stated, but add's some confirmations from Verizon/ATT about the "life in the slow lane" and "there is an event on the 11th" but no further details. Just the confirmation of where that slow quote came from, and whom @ Verizon confirmed there is "a" event on that date, but nothing else.
IF...they offer unlimited Data, there will be a catch...and it won't last. If you've ever read your Verizon bill, they will screw you. That's what they do. For those getting all excited about unlimited data...see how much you really use. The average user likely does not come close to the ATT cap.
I've had Verizon (DC/Metro area) and have had an iPhone for two years. I lose calls in the same place I lost the Verizon calls...my travel to NY and LA has been without any reception problems...I have not missed Verizon and am happy with my iPhone...You want Verizon? Go for it...good luck with the CDMA limitations...I'm curious how it will affect the iPhone 4's great battery life...
I've had Verizon (DC/Metro area) and have had an iPhone for two years. I lose calls in the same place I lost the Verizon calls...my travel to NY and LA has been without any reception problems...I have not missed Verizon and am happy with my iPhone...You want Verizon? Go for it...good luck with the CDMA limitations...I'm curious how it will affect the iPhone 4's great battery life...
I hope the traffic runs them into the ground for a while so they can eat their words.
That being said...more money for Apple to start making real computers again.
That being said...more money for Apple to start making real computers again.
There are really 2 options for VZW/AT&T:
1. SVDO. This involves the device maker to utilize a chipset from Qualcomm that supports this service. It allows the device to set up 2 independent streams, 1 for voice and 1 for data. I know one such chipset is the MSM7630:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...am-smartphone-tier-of-chipsets-69841897.html#
2. VoRA. This is more dependent on the network in that the EvDO network has to be made to pass packetized voice in the same manner as today with 1x voice. The network changes have been tested/proven out so it's just a question of whether or not they are going to implement it this way. I believe VoRA includes some work on the device side but it mostly involves software from what I understand.
SVDO has the advantage in that it still technically keeps voice and data separate. You can't have a big data user taking down your voice network. VoRA has advantage in longevity in that 1x will go the way of the Dodo sooner than EvDO (In my opinion...) and blends nicer with LTE/VoLTE.
I found an old article where somebody actually read the Verizon terms of service on an unlimited data plan and they stated that they assume you are violating terms of service if you go over 5GB per month. That might be old news, and not true with the new iPhone (if that happens). However, I think it's pretty typical for wireless carriers to limit their "unlimited" plans somewhat...
There is nothing in the Terms & Conditions about a 5GB cap:
http://support.vzw.com/terms/products/vz_email.html
Now, that's not to say they can't use the language in there to enforce speed restrictions and deny service. But I would say you would have to be really abusive with the bandwidth to have them do that. And chances are if you're pulling enough data to where they're noticing, you're probably doing something that violates the Terms & Conditions. I'm not trying to judge, just making an observation...
Maybe the (real) iPhone users outside of the US can give their 2cents on how much dropped calls they experience?
I know somebody who works in this industry and he tells me the providers claim that there are network shortages so they can get out of the unlimited contracts and charge accordingly.
In the major markets there is no shortgae of network capability.
The network constraints are usually in weaker populated areas where it doesn't matter when people complain.
No Verizon is. Do you think all the media outlets have lied about the event? That's a pretty big stretch don't you think?
Perhaps SJ isn't coming and Verizon will announce it all on their own. It's not unprecedented. Every other carrier addition has been done w/o Apple.
A They aren't the only source.
I think you'll be the one looking foolish come Tuesday. You already look foolish now for not at least admiting that it seems very possible.
Edit: Just realized...if the troll is awake, must be past my bedtime. Night all.
Just ignore his trolling. I've got to say he is even far worse than Jav. Atleast Jav has disappeared from these Verizon threads and in other threads is saying "if in fact it's not the Verizon iPhone" so atleast even the great Verizon iPhone naysayer Jav has seen the writing on the wall.
It's ok, Whatever will look like the fool tomorrow. And I'm sure he will still be in denial.
Jobs doesn't have to fly in. They could do an phone-based video call with him from the stage.
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Android passed the iPhone in US sales months ago, and is set to overtake it in number of US users as well. Plus Android phones with LTE are about to hit.
Apple needs to partner with Verizon at some point, and the sooner, the better for Apple.