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This is a good deal unless Verizon charges $50 a month for it.

Yes, this is why competition is good for the consumer. If it weren't for Apple competing with the PC makers of the world, everybody would still have towers under their desks and little tube monitors on top.
 
The iPad shipped with unlimited data plans also. We saw how long that lasted.

Yup. VZ giveth now... and VZ taketh-away later.

As long as their iPhone customer base is small, they can offer unlimited plans without stressing their networks. But as soon as their customer base grows, they'll change the terms and put a cap on their plans.

Get them to promise you both that (a) the plan they sell you now will remain unlimited forever, and (b) they'll continue to offer this unlimited data plan to new customers in the future. Then I'll be impressed.
 
If verizon gives unlimited data and free tethering I would switch. Otherwise I am fine with AT&T for now.
 
Since this will be on verizons slower 3G network I am not impressed. When they offer this on their LTE network I might care
 
Big difference - with Verizon there will be a contract, so at least if you start out with unlimited data, you'll have unlimited data for the length of the contract.

The "contract" means you will be required to pay the ETF to cover the cost of your subsidized phone if you cancel before the 2 years is up. You may also be required to have *a* data plan. With Verizon's plans- just like AT&Ts- data charges are a monthly charge which can be changed (and prorated) any time in the billing cycle.

If the "unlimited" option was taken away you'd be able to keep it just like you can on the iPad if you were grandfathered in. New contracts after the unlimited plan goes away won't have that option though.

So no- there's not that much difference at all.
 
Big difference - with Verizon there will be a contract, so at least if you start out with unlimited data, you'll have unlimited data for the length of the contract.

Nah... the contract will allow VZ ot change the terms. Read the fine print.
 
1. I want to see prices for VZ iPhones and unlimited data plans.
2. When is iPhone 5 coming out?
 
Yup. VZ giveth now... and VZ taketh-away later.

As long as their iPhone customer base is small, they can offer unlimited plans without stressing their networks. But as soon as their customer base grows, they'll change the terms and put a cap on their plans.

Get them to promise you both that (a) the plan they sell you now will remain unlimited forever, and (b) they'll continue to offer this unlimited data plan to new customers in the future. Then I'll be impressed.

You don't think that the iPhone customer base on Verizon will be large to begin with? I can easily see 4-5 million Verizon iPhone activations by the end of the quarter. Capping is always a possibility but I don't think they'll pull the ATT move where they capped the iPad data plan only 2 months after release.
 
I think its smart Verizon will offer the unlimited plan. My thought is how much they will offer it for and for how long will they keep it. I think moving to tiered plans will be inevitable.
 
i hope at&t loses A LOT of customers and get what they deserve for ripping us off for years. i didn't get the iPhone 4 just so i wouldn't be stuck in a 2-year contract with them. i want to see what verizon is going to offer. it better be good!
 
Verizon better offer lower rates....

I expect lower prices at Verizon....after all you are getting less:

-slower speed
-no concurrent data and voice access (I can't use my GPS while I talk!)
-no international coverage
-no rollover minutes
-no free visual voicemail
-no free wifi
 
I expected lower prices at Verizon....after all you are getting less:

-slower speed
-no concurrent data and voice access (I can't use my GPS while I talk!)
-no international coverage
-no rollover minutes
-no free visual voicemail
-no free wifi

I am sure that Apple will force Verizon for free visual vm and possibly concurrent data and voice somehow (i know it is a limitation of cdma but surely a work around) if Verizon wants to carry the iphone
 
I have to wonder why it would be a CDMA iPhone 4. Why not a dual band iPhone 5, although if they cut down on the R&D and just used the current design with the iPhone 4, they could just call it the iPhone 4A (A for Antenna), or the 4C (C for CDMA), or even the 4L (L for LTE).

Remember, the iPhone 3G gave way to the 3GS, why wouldn't Apple do the same with the iPhone 4??

BJ
 
I expect lower prices at Verizon....after all you are getting less:

-slower speed
-no concurrent data and voice access (I can't use my GPS while I talk!)
-no international coverage
-no rollover minutes
-no free visual voicemail
-no free wifi

what do you mean slower speeds? Didn't VZ just upgrade part of their network to 4G? :)

Where do you know about data and voice access not being concurrent? :)

Agree with international coverage (CDMA is old technology) :( :(

Don't care about rollover minutes because I use less than my plan. :)

How do you know about no free Visual Voicemail? :(

No free wifi will not impact me so badly, because I am on ATT DSL at home :)
 
Hopefully AT&T follows suit and offers "Unlimited" data again, but it seems rather unlikely that they will. One sure can hope though :rolleyes:
 
Interesting... a few comments on how AT&T has been ripping us off. Blah, blah, blah...

But honestly, I've seen nothing but iPhone and all smart phone plans go down in the past 3 years. And, they all seem to be at about par with each other. I think some people just like to grip and have the "grass is always greener" on the other side syndrome.

I can't wait for a bunch of iPhone users to jump to Verizon... more bandwidth for me. :)

Tuesday will be fun for sure. :)
 
Big difference - with Verizon there will be a contract, so at least if you start out with unlimited data, you'll have unlimited data for the length of the contract.

Um..... yeah. And anyone that continued to pay month to month got to keep unlimited data on their iPad (same with iPhone), effectively maintaining a contract with AT&T.

BTW, Verizon does not and never will have unlimited. They have 5GB plans that cost TONS if they decide to charge you for the overages.

IF (big IF) Verizon gets the iPhone, it will carry the same plans that Droids currently do. There will be, at best a $20 1GB plan, a $35 3GB plan and a $50 5GB plan, the same model they currently follow.

The only way I will be enticed away from AT&T is if another carrier offers mobile wifi hotspot direct from the iPhone and it costs me less than the mobile mifi I have through Virgin Mobile while still delivering the quantity of service I demand for ALL of my mobile devices. Right now the iPhone itself isn't capable of that without Jailbreak (which I refuse to do again, every time I have, the device turned to crap), so it's not even a carrier issue yet.
 
I'll take faster speeds and capped data over slower speeds and unlimited data mainly because I don't ever hit more than 75MB/mo lol:D
 
hah so unlimited (= 5gb) for iphone 4 and then 2GB cap for same price for iphone 5. That's how they'll get ya.
 
what do you mean slower speeds? Didn't VZ just upgrade part of their network to 4G? :)

Where do you know about data and voice access not being concurrent? :)

Agree with international coverage (CDMA is old technology) :( :(

Don't care about rollover minutes because I use less than my plan. :)

How do you know about no free Visual Voicemail? :(

No free wifi will not impact me so badly, because I am on ATT DSL at home :)

This won't be a 4G iPhone....so CDMA is slow (Verizon stated last week at CES that CDMA runs at about 1 mbs). Also, Verizon's implementation of CDMA does not support concurrent Voice/data access. That's a show stopper for me.
 
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