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Verizon iPhone Wireless Hotspot to Cost an Additional $20/Month
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The bank thing is a imitation of the site, security but that's not Verizon's network. When using my BoA app (Samsung Fascinate) I can text and take phone calls and go back to where I was in the app. Granted I don't talk for 40 minutes before doing so. Also while downloading pdf's or other files I have received texts or phone calls and when I hang up I have always had them pick up where they left off. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not the norm. Data will resume when you end the call.
Reaper might as well give up...I am because these fanboys are so drunk on the AT&T kool aid theres no reasoning with them. Guess they have to bring up BS to justify paying AT&T more
I'm no AT&T fanboy, like them yes but acknowledge you need to get what works for you. What I AM laughing about is how prior to this info Verizon fanboys claimed hotspot would come with a ViPhone and it would be part of your data plan. For those fanboys - I laugh. Verizon is just as bad as AT&T just in different areas.
Duh! who actually thought this would be a free feature? As soon as this feature was announced by Verizon, I was not excited. I have a friend who owns a droid x and hasnt activated this feature because of the high price and no need to use it.
The only people who seem to be surprised by this are AT&T folks. Us Verizon smartphone users know this is how it currently is and we didn't expect that to change.
Also if they really looked at a comparison they would see it's a better deal than AT&T who charges $20 but also makes you use the 2GB you've already paid $25 for.
Umm, all businesses are evil, it's a fact. They will do whatever is necessary to profit the most. Sometimes that is fair prices and getting customer loyalty for Longterm customers, and sometimes that's charging a lot of money.
If they gave unlimited data but charged extra for tethering with a 2GB cap, honestly that's not super terrible. There is a thread around here somewhere of some guy pushing 90GB 2/3 through his billing cycle. Can you imagine what that does to the network in his area? If verizon DID offer free/unlimited tethering I'd be worried, people would be dumping their broadband and tethering, and it would make a slow network even slower. Do not want.
I knew it was to good to be true. I actually have friends buying on this feature alone. Well, my friends are in for a big surprise.
In that simple scenario, there is no real difference. However, in real life, with real users, the average mobile user uses much, much less than their allotted 2gb/month. However, when the average user gets a hotspot, he uses much, much more than he otherwise would have. The pricing model is based on the average user, not a user who uses exactly the amount allowed on his data plan. By definition of "average", this is what determines the total cost (average is the total sum divided by the number of users).
Again, the problem is that the real pricing is hidden from the user. This is why you think these two scenarios are equivalent. In fact, if everyone used their allotted 2gb of data, then billions and billions and billions would need to be spent before the network could support it. If you're using the full 2 gb of allotment, then other users are essentially paying for you by using much less data themselves. I know this is confusing, and really, it's the mobile companies fault for creating this mess where no one seems to understand the cost structure.
Overall, when people add hotspots to their phones, the average data used goes up and costs go up.
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I can't wait until Google Voice lets you use VoIP on the iPhone, instead of just using your phone line. They're experimenting with it in Gmail, hopefully it should be on the iPhone soon. Unlimited voice and SMS, all using data.
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Seriously, I think I may just go get a phone- one I use for the occasional call, and old fashioned ten key texting- when it's really needed.
What do people have to say that's so important that we need to be so connected, and be lulled into paying ever higher fees?
It's like a smoking addiction; and the price per pack has just reached the point where I'vd realized how nuts this all is.
Seriously, I think I may just go get a phone- one I use for the occasional call, and old fashioned ten key texting- when it's really needed.
What do people have to say that's so important that we need to be so connected, and be lulled into paying ever higher fees?
It's like a smoking addiction; and the price per pack has just reached the point where I'vd realized how nuts this all is.
When the average user buys 1 GB of data, they tend to use much, much less. Since the mobile company needs to support actual usage (rather than your 1 GB cap), their costs are lower. When you add tethering, data usage on average goes up, and costs go up.
Maybe an analogy would help. Let's say you go to a restaurant that is all-you-can eat up to 6 plates. On average people eat 2 plates of food, but some larger people will eat 6 plates of food. By the above logic, you should be able to take a friend to the restaurant for free because you both will just eat 3 plates of food. If everyone got to bring a friend for free, then the restaurant's food costs would triple (2 plates up to 6 plates).
In this case, the extra friend is equivalent to the extra phone usage of tethering. Technically, you're not going over your limit, but the restaurant or the phone company would still need to spend a lot more money on food or minutes on average.
Your free tethering is just priced into your existing bill. The mobile company must spend money to support the higher data usage of tethering one way or another.
I don't believe I said it quite that way
When a call comes in, the data connection is suspended, not lost. If you ignore the call, or take it and then hang up later, the data connection should resume within seconds under ideal circumstances.
What I had added was that the important part was if the application itself had a separate timeout.
For example, I have never had a download that didn't resume correctly after I hung up a call. So I suspect the download manager must be smart enough (or dumb enough) to handle that.
However, I can write an app with an internal timeout and certainly fail if I wake up and try to do a data transfer without first checking to see if the data connection is online. Without the timeout, I think my transfer gets suspended and thus so would my app without it knowing.
And in doing so upset every other smartphone user on their network. Which would not make any business sense.
As to the data is data it is but it uses differnet networks right now. Once LTE get rolled out and is nationwide then the hope is all calls will be handled as voip.
Wtf is your problem? Can you read?
Neither one of them is even reasonably close to a good deal for consumers. it's $45 or $50 for too little data or too little speed.
It's POOR, all around. It should be better. Instead of offering competition, Verizon matches AT&T in (lack of) value dollar for dollar.
It's pathetic.
Why does AT&T do what they do? Why does Verizon do what they do? To make as much as possible. Why are they able to do this? Because they can. If you are surprised that all mobile carriers offer plans within a few dollars of each other you must also be surprised that gasoline prices move up and down at all stations in an area almost in unison even when the underlying oil price does not change? Is there collusion? Not that can be proven. These companies have no need to innovate since people are willing to pay more and more for the same product or service. Why invest in a better delivery system when people will pay more for what they already have when you just give it a new name.
I will stick with my $20 phone from Target. It makes phone calls and costs me $5/month. That's good enough for me. If people were willing to be happy with "good enough" instead of chasing the chimera of "the best" they would be a lot happier.
I will stick with my $20 phone from Target. It makes phone calls and costs me $5/month. That's good enough for me. If people were willing to be happy with "good enough" instead of chasing the chimera of "the best" they would be a lot happier.