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Please explain what you mean by these words, since you don't seem to use the conventional meanings:
  • "monopolistic"
  • "tad"

You know damn well what I mean, you wretched corporate tool!

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Littl confused...

So do I have to wait until tomorrow and sign up for one of these plans? Or if I already have one, do I get the bonus data without doing anything?

And is this for existing More Everything plans or only new subscribers?

Good questions. My guess is they need you to lock in to Verizon for another two years.

You know, it's interesting how with all their whining about congestion, they can double customers' bandwidth on a moment's notice when another telecom does the same.

If I were an optimist, I would say the telecom oligopoly is becoming unglued and we will soon be in a bandwidth price war. But as a pessimist, I believe the telecoms are merely placating the FCC - an FCC which has been somewhat vocal about the termination of truly unlimited data plans.
 
Wow. Looks like you guys barely use data at all. $320 for such a paltry amount of data? That's pretty ridiculous. But hey it's not my money. I'm sure Verizon is loving it.

Unless they're the only carrier where you live, I'd seriously take a look at other carriers. With the amount of money you're overpaying them every month you could buy all of your iPhones outright every few months.

Actually, most of the high-bandwidth users are located in rural areas where they are forced to use LTE as home broadband. Verizon and ATT have carved up these same areas into pockets with coverage for only ONE telecom. Thus high bandwidth users have one choice for fast broadband.

It's a great racket, if you're lucky enough to be in on it.
 
On the plus side, the plans work everywhere in the US with no roaming fees, and LTE was deployed there a few years before most of Europe.

Seems like a lot of the less-expensive European plans don't let one travel out of their home country (many of which are the size of a single state in the US) without incurring roaming fees.

There will be no roaming fees across the European Union by the end of 2015 and they have already been considerably capped due to price controls.

Given that the average user isn't even going to be travelling outside of the country regardless, the plans on the whole are still significantly less expensive than in America, Canada included.

Considering the land area that must be spanned for towers, power line and data line... compared to your little island... All things in perspective.

Yes, all things in perspective. AT&T alone has as many paying cellular subscribers as almost twice the population of the UK, or about four times the population of Australia. It's not like they don't have the money already. You're being ripped off by a market that is essentially a duopoly.
 
On the plus side, the plans work everywhere in the US with no roaming fees, and LTE was deployed there a few years before most of Europe.


Yes, roaming was a huge problem in Europe, even though I guess we don't change country as often as you change state.

But it's progressing pretty fast at the moment... Besides, your data rates are just insane. For instance, I pay 25€ for 5GB/month in 4G, with the best operator in France for quality. I could also go with my FTTH operator and pay 16€ for 20GB/month in 4G, but the quality is not as good. This is with unlimited voice calls, SMS and MMS and no engagement (I can change operator monthly and keep the same number).

Roaming was pretty bad, but we're seeing some improvement. For instance, my current plan has 5 GB abroad per year, the plan from my FTTH operator has 3GB over 35 days per year. That's not huge, but it's manageable if you just spend some holidays abroad.
 
Not true on Verizon. Verizon only discounts plans that are currently on an Edge payment. Verizon does not discount bring your own or paid off phones.

You are wrong. As soon the contracts on our plan are up, I go into our account and change the line to receive $10 off. Of course, the discount goes away when someone upgrades. No one on our plan has had or currently has a phone on Edge.
 
It's just mind-boggling how overpriced mobile data is. Period. When do you think that bubble will burst? Remember when texts used to be like $0.50? I know that the cost on texting is essentially zero since it piggybacks on the tower ping, but there's got to be a point where data becomes reasonable.

We just have to form mobile Duggar families. Max out every group plan with ten other users -- whatever it is -- so you get data for a tiny price. Everybody changes their name to be "family."
 
There will be no roaming fees across the European Union by the end of 2015 and they have already been considerably capped due to price controls.
So there's really no price increase expected when this happens? End of 2015 rolls around, and bam, every wireless plan in EU works the same, regardless of which country you're traveling in, for the same price as today? :eek:

Given that the average user isn't even going to be travelling outside of the country regardless, the plans on the whole are still significantly less expensive than in America, Canada included.
To make it more of an apples to apples price comparison, does there not exist today a plan in your country that allows you to travel over the EU and use your minutes/data without roaming fees? We could compare the price of that to one of these AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile/Sprint plans.

Unfortunately in the US, AFAIK even the smaller regional carriers do not offer super-cheap plans that only work in the geographic area of "one state", so it'd be hard to compare the price of any US plan directly to a EU "one-country" plan.
 
I use Verizon LTE data for our home internet. Therefore, today I'm singing a little hallelujah at this news!

It seems incredibly expensive, but whenever I comparison shop, my other two options - AT&T and US Cellular - are consistently the same all-in price as big red. Verizon has the best coverage so I've stuck with them. These new cheap unlimited data plans are intriguing but for much of the country T-Mobile and Sprint signals are horrific. So it's definitely a trade-off. Reliable and likely more money vs. spotty connections and cheaper.
 
Yes, roaming was a huge problem in Europe, even though I guess we don't change country as often as you change state.
To me, it's sounding like folks in the EU don't do a lot of traveling out of their country. :eek:

I'm not sure how I could live over there and not take long weekends all over the EU anytime I could... so much awesome history, culture and geography! :)

Well, as you were explaining, your in-country plans are so inexpensive, maybe with roaming added in, they average out to the cost of what we pay here in America. heh
 

I'm seriously tempted to buy my next phone and put it on T-Mobile for $50 a month; unlimited calls, message and data. If you put 0 down, you pay another finance charge for the phone, but you can still quit any time by paying off the remainder. However, I'm not sure how many strong signals T-Mobile has in the US.

And "network optimization" means slowing you down, right? We need to expand the cell world into the public. Every wi-fi in every house adds in wifi connection for calls and data. Every place with a computer has a secure router that contributes to the public net. So, if your plan won't give you crummy LTE from a big tower miles away, you use part of any open Internet connection -- give out subsidized modems to anybody who wants to make a few bucks a month in carriage fees. Our wireless networks are a feudal hell.
 
And "network optimization" means slowing you down, right?

What that link seems to be saying is that Verizon is no longer going to throttle their unlimited plan users. FWIW, this only affects those people with grandfathered unlimited plans, which are no longer being offered. And anyone in the general vicinity competing for the same bandwidth.
 
Littl confused...

So do I have to wait until tomorrow and sign up for one of these plans? Or if I already have one, do I get the bonus data without doing anything?

And is this for existing More Everything plans or only new subscribers?
You know damn well what I mean, you wretched corporate tool!

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Good questions. My guess is they need you to lock in to Verizon for another two years.

You know, it's interesting how with all their whining about congestion, they can double customers' bandwidth on a moment's notice when another telecom does the same.

If I were an optimist, I would say the telecom oligopoly is becoming unglued and we will soon be in a bandwidth price war. But as a pessimist, I believe the telecoms are merely placating the FCC - an FCC which has been somewhat vocal about the termination of truly unlimited data plans.
We probably won't know for sure until tomorrow, but it sounds like simply going with 12 GB of data will get 15 GB of data, and so on, meaning that existing customers who change to that should get the promotional data. And those who already have it, might even get it automatically, or might have to do something to get it applied actually.

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i have more everything with 8gb of data per month. guess im not getting any extra for free?! :(
Not really. If you decide to pay $20 more (or perhaps a bit less than that if you have a corporate discount) then you can almost double what you have now (if you might have some use for that).
 
i have more everything with 8gb of data per month. guess im not getting any extra for free?! :(

When I priced out my More Everything plan, the total price of the 10GB data plan with two or more not-on-contract cell phones actually worked out to be cheaper than the 6GB or 8GB plans.
 
Does Verizon have any worth while plans UNDER $100 a month?

I wouldn't mind switching back with them but AT&T currently has me at 2gb data for $71 a month out the door.

Last I checked Verizon has nothing in that range.

i'm on the 60 dollar plan comes with 2gb i pay 25 for edge 10 for insurance and for regulatory comes to 97 a month, its like 10 dollars off for edge i think or something
 
Why can't those of us with 8GB get 16GB/mo?! hell, I'd be happy if they bumped me to 10GB/mo!

:mad:
That would get too many people down from 10 GB and similar plans onto cheaper plans costing Verizon quite a bit more than what they are doing now by offering more data to just higher end users, which would cause less users to go down and actually get some smaller users to perhaps pay a bit more to get that much more data.
 
Not only is MacRumors' headline misleading, what's almost as misleading is that table from Verizon. It's like, "look how cheap it would be to share all this data across your family. Now, if they want to be part of it, each family member has to shell out an additional $40 per line per month to get it."
 
I just left Verizon and they didn't care to see us go because they know they get people who sign up daily. They just care about $$ and every customer is seen as $$ and customers input means squat to them .

With T- Mobile our coverage isn't outstanding like Verizon's is but it's not so horrible like Verizon makes it out to be. We get coverage in most places we travel and our bill is $100 cheaper.

Verizon and AT&T started edge and Next because of T-Mobile eliminating contracts. They are both offering WiFi calling next year because of T-mobile. Verizon originally said no to it because they thought their network ran just fine without it.

I can stream all the music I want with T-Mobile and it doesn't count towards my data. I don't miss Verizon one bit.
 
So there's really no price increase expected when this happens? End of 2015 rolls around, and bam, every wireless plan in EU works the same, regardless of which country you're traveling in, for the same price as today? :eek:

Well, we can't predict the future. But I don't think we will see a raise in France at least. Telephony has become a very competitive sector here.
The state authorized a fourth player to enter the market and that player has a history of breaking prices while bringing high quality (it's Free, the first Internet provider to introduce free access over the phone, ADSL under 30€, FTTH under 30€...). He came with a 2€ plan (2 hours voice, free for his Internet subscribers) and a 19,90€ plan (unlimited voice/SMS/MMS, 20GB data over 4G per month and 3 GB per year in Europe, 14,90€ for his Internet subscribers).
As a result, in a matter of months, all the other players introduced spin-off companies with budget plans. For instance, I moved from Orange (60€ per month, 3 hours voice, 1 GB data) to it's spin-off Sosh (25€ per month, unlimited voice/SMS/MMS, 5 GB data per year in Europe and unlimited SMS in Europe). This shows you how competitive the market has gotten (and how large the profit margin was before)...

To make it more of an apples to apples price comparison, does there not exist today a plan in your country that allows you to travel over the EU and use your minutes/data without roaming fees?

The US is a country, the EU is an economic zone. The US speaks English and Spanish, the EU speaks around 20 languages. The US has only the dollar, Europe has euro but also British pound, the Swedish krona, the Danish krone... So, comparing Europe and USA is difficult, because it's not the same reality. It would be much harder for me to move to England (new language, new money, need to change bank...) that for you to move to the next state, even though England is one hour away by plane.

A fairer comparison would be to compare two economic zones, that is Europe and USA+Canada+Mexico.
 
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