Yes, but the phone determines the "plan" needed. again that means that a feature phone only requires a voice plan, and a smartphone requires a voice and a data plan. Making data a plan on a smartphone and a feature on a feature phone.
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Verizon Planning to End Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plans With LTE Switch
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Yes, but the phone determines the "plan" needed. again that means that a feature phone only requires a voice plan, and a smartphone requires a voice and a data plan. Making data a plan on a smartphone and a feature on a feature phone.
Enjoy your two cans with a string! Tmobile has throttled data, att also has capped and sprint has a slow ass network that'll probably end up being capped in the future. So verizon? Yes its capped. But at least it'll be fast with great coverage. I hate this point of "settling" for the lesser of evils
Doesn't matter. Soon there will be nowhere to run. It's probably still worth having the best network. I think the writing is on the wall, however, for me as I get married.
No, because it's pretty simple. Everyone on unlimited data who gets their next LTE phone when this is implemented will lose unlimited data. If you get an LTE phone before, you'll be good until you get your next phone.
This is the whole point of this. Eventually, everyone will be off unlimited data.
I hope AT&T doesn't do this with the iPad. I am still using the original iPad with UNLIMITED 3G data. I plan to update to a new iPad 3 LTE or possibly wait until next year for the iPad 4. I know they currently grandfather in unlimited users....but i wonder for how much longer. Cause in leu of this news, and especially after what the CEO said recently about regretting ever offering unlimited data in the first place....um...i would suspect my days as a granfather are numbered! Lol. :-O
May have to upgrade to the iPad 3 now just to be safe.
I don't care about the iphone, cause i always buy my iphones off contract, and plan to do so with the iphone 5 as well.
May have to upgrade to the iPad 3 now just to be safe.
I don't care about the iphone, cause i always buy my iphones off contract, and plan to do so with the iphone 5 as well.
So how can they force single plan unlimited users to "share" data when upgrading to LTE devices? Think about it. One line. One user. How can Verizon force them off unlimited? To share?
Folks read in between the lines. You can still keep unlimited LTE if you still have it. This especially applies to individual lines.
As for family plans. You can still keep unlimited data if you still have it also. Verizon is implying if you want family sharing you cannot mix and match lines. All lines will be effected with family sharing data. Just do not subscribe to family sharing.
Most people will find it more economically to share 5GB LTE data and pay say $100/month for data to share between 5 lines. Than pay $150 a month just for data for 2GB for each of the five lines.
Believe me when I say Verizon is going to charge $100/month for 5 lines for 5GB sharing. Verizon is going to base it on the $20/1GB iPad data plan they have. So data sharing ain't cheap either.
Folks read in between the lines. You can still keep unlimited LTE if you still have it. This especially applies to individual lines.
As for family plans. You can still keep unlimited data if you still have it also. Verizon is implying if you want family sharing you cannot mix and match lines. All lines will be effected with family sharing data. Just do not subscribe to family sharing.
Most people will find it more economically to share 5GB LTE data and pay say $100/month for data to share between 5 lines. Than pay $150 a month just for data for 2GB for each of the five lines.
Believe me when I say Verizon is going to charge $100/month for 5 lines for 5GB sharing. Verizon is going to base it on the $20/1GB iPad data plan they have. So data sharing ain't cheap either.
I know what you mean, even with just a gf, I get weird looks if I try and upgrade my gadgets too quickly.lol, so it goes.
That's good that it'll be worth it to some people though, I wasn't sure. I hope some do it just to stick it to them.
get it in while you can, it only gets worse once youre married. luckily she let me steal her upgrade for my 64gb 4s, while she got my 32gb 4. next up is getting her to let me update my 2009 15" mbp when the new mbp's drop.
This is so frustrating... My son has a feature phone and I promised him an iPhone in October. When Verizon announced the end of unlimited and reiterated the grandfathering of unlimited data, I added a data plan to his EnV3. I have been paying 30 a month so that when he got his iPhone he would have unlimited data. I knew he wasn't going to use ANY data between then and the purchase of his iPhone, but the attraction of unlimited data down the road would be worth it. Now this. I am incensed. They just stole hundreds of dollars from me. Blatantly ripped me off when they announced the end of unlimited, with the caveat that you would be grandfathered. I wonder if there is any recourse.
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Wait a minute- I was told, in no uncertain and very specific terms, that when the switch to LTE was made, I would continue to have unlimited data even under the LTE plan. I was told this by multiple people at the Irvine Spectrum Verizon store.
They were very specific- "get in now, and you will be grandfathered in forever. This includes unlimited LTE." I nailed them down on this.
Is this announcement contrary to that statement? Am I going to lose unlimited LTE when the new iPhone comes out?
If so, I will be switching to Sprint. And I will not be paying any sort of fee for breaking a contract, as they will have already broken it.
Bring it Verizon. Seriously.
They were very specific- "get in now, and you will be grandfathered in forever. This includes unlimited LTE." I nailed them down on this.
Is this announcement contrary to that statement? Am I going to lose unlimited LTE when the new iPhone comes out?
If so, I will be switching to Sprint. And I will not be paying any sort of fee for breaking a contract, as they will have already broken it.
Bring it Verizon. Seriously.
I think they're trying to say that data plans will be "shared" by default. if you're one person, you pay for the shared rate, you just don't share. If Verizon wants you to move to a different tiered plan, then you will get one because they say so. I fail to see what's so hard.
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Don't change phones. Ever. Then maybe you will be grandfathered. Or upgrade and don't tell verizon. Maybe that will work.
i know they all want unlimited gone, but my point is data is data, doesnt matter if its 3g or 4g. i dont believe the contracts specify other than data, correct me if im wrong. so if my iphone lte or whatever is purchased off contract at full price, it should be able to slide in my iphone 4s's spot because its not a new contract.
but reguardless, we can all argue this till were blue in the face. this whole thing is speculation until they implement it. time will tell.
SO basically your best bet is to go onto eBay and buy a new LTE phone at full price instead of @ 2 year contract pricing, without signing a new contract at Verizon and then activating it yourself.
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No way the "sharing data" wording will ever work with an individual plan. I am sure they have their attorneys hard at work with the wording if they try to implement that with individual plans.
An individual cannot share data. That's just common sense unless they include free tethering with it.
Let's look shall we:
AT&T - Tiered 200MB, 3GB or 5GB. Grandfathered Users throttled after using 3GB of data.
Verizon - Tiered 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB (Current offer is 4GB, 10GB, or 20GB). Top 5% of Grandfathered Users throttled only during network congestion.
T-Mobile - Tiered Unlimited. 200MB, 2GB, 5GB or 10GB. After data is used, you're throttled.
Sprint - Unlimited. Data is so slow it's as if you're throttled 24/7
Even when Verizon drops it's unlimited (and so will Sprint and T-Mobile and AT&T in the near future), Verizon will still probably be the #1 Network of choice.
AT&T - Tiered 200MB, 3GB or 5GB. Grandfathered Users throttled after using 3GB of data.
Verizon - Tiered 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB (Current offer is 4GB, 10GB, or 20GB). Top 5% of Grandfathered Users throttled only during network congestion.
T-Mobile - Tiered Unlimited. 200MB, 2GB, 5GB or 10GB. After data is used, you're throttled.
Sprint - Unlimited. Data is so slow it's as if you're throttled 24/7
Even when Verizon drops it's unlimited (and so will Sprint and T-Mobile and AT&T in the near future), Verizon will still probably be the #1 Network of choice.
not really, because you tried to play the system (what a lot of us want to do). technically he could have used the data the entire time.
They'll just call it "Data Plan". And there will be one "Data Plan" allowed per signed contract. They don't call them "Shared Minute", but your minutes are no different than the minutes I share with my parents. It's just a pool of data. If you're only user, it's just you pulling from the pool. You can have more users pull out of the pool. They emphasize "shared" because it has never been done that way before.
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You move your Data from a CDMA phone to a Verizon LTE sim card. If you do it soon, i think you're okay. If you wait, I think you're SOL.
I'm switching to Sprint at the end of my contract.
Unlimited LTE on the next iPhone is too good of a deal to pass up.
Yes, I know their network doesn't have the best coverage, but it will improve. It seems like Sprint is the only carrier that still cares about what consumers want.
Unlimited LTE on the next iPhone is too good of a deal to pass up.
Yes, I know their network doesn't have the best coverage, but it will improve. It seems like Sprint is the only carrier that still cares about what consumers want.
I think play the system might be a bit harsh. Play their game might be more accurate. They said, hurry up and get unlimited data now or it is gone forever. Even to the point where they added it to a phone that doesn't require it. Now when I might be able to utilize it, they take it away.
Renewing your 2 year is when they will implement this. They don't have to break it.
i'll bet you $1,000 when the time comes, you won't be able to get unlimited data.
I like how all these phone companies are moving backwards. Let's make better networks making them faster, more dependable, and widespread. Then lets cheap out and go back to pay per megabyte plans. I wonder if internet providers should go back to 1995 AOL style and charge by the hour.
Besides AT&T and Verizon have no future oriented perspective here. Sure they'll save operating costs AND increase revenue. Except that Sprint and T-Mobile continue to offer unlimited data plans. Sure T-Mobile throttles power users from 3G to Edge if you go over 5GB in a month. But even then it's case by case and often they don't. And even if they do throttle you are still getting unlimited data. Sprint may or may not do this.
But throttling speeds means you can offer unlimited data while keeping costs under control. And meaning you can still advertise what the other guys no longer offer.
It's stupid to charge extra over X amount of data. Throttling is a better business model if a company must cut costs of running the network. Or they could just offer tiered plans and charge the most for unlimited/no throttling. It could be like a premium plan: all the data you want at the fastest speeds. Then offer lower cost data plans. But don't be greedy and charge per GB over X amount.
Besides AT&T and Verizon have no future oriented perspective here. Sure they'll save operating costs AND increase revenue. Except that Sprint and T-Mobile continue to offer unlimited data plans. Sure T-Mobile throttles power users from 3G to Edge if you go over 5GB in a month. But even then it's case by case and often they don't. And even if they do throttle you are still getting unlimited data. Sprint may or may not do this.
But throttling speeds means you can offer unlimited data while keeping costs under control. And meaning you can still advertise what the other guys no longer offer.
It's stupid to charge extra over X amount of data. Throttling is a better business model if a company must cut costs of running the network. Or they could just offer tiered plans and charge the most for unlimited/no throttling. It could be like a premium plan: all the data you want at the fastest speeds. Then offer lower cost data plans. But don't be greedy and charge per GB over X amount.
How would Verizon make me change to a shared data plan when I am the only one using the account?
That's my question.
That's my question.
When you go on Launch day to buy the iPhone Whoop-dee-doo or whatever they call it, they will say to you "congratulations, sir or madam, here are the available data plans for the iPhone 4happy". Then they'll make you pick. Those plans will be sharable data plans, but you just won't share them.