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Nah, no thanks. I'll stay with my Verizon Unlimited Data Plan for $29.99 a month thanks very much.

You mean 49.99 a month. Unless, of course, you're on some super secret non-price increased unlimited data plan that the rest of us don't know about.
 
You mean 49.99 a month. Unless, of course, you're on some super secret non-price increased unlimited data plan that the rest of us don't know about.
Well, I sort of am. Keep yourself in contract before the next billing cycle when the price would have gone up and you keep the 29.99 price. Can do this by calling in adding a loyalty plan with adds a 1 yr contract or by using an upgrade loophole.
 
your phone services are as expensive as your healthcare.

Best line ever, and for as bad as both (don't) work in this country we still put up with it and salivate when the new Bells throw us a bone.

Seriously, on a road trip on interstates from Florida to Utah I've discovered how bad AT&T is over the past 2 weeks and I already thought my coverage in Orlando on LTE was both slow and spotty. My LTE speeds here are about the same as what I had on 3G on my iPhone 3G on launch day...as in before anyone else had a smartphone to actually use the "superior" network.
 
Its 2016 and phone technology hasn't changed in 10 years, time for $20 a month all you can eat phone plan on a $200 flagship phone. Phones are not cool anymore, why charge "cool" prices for products and services.
 
Well, I sort of am. Keep yourself in contract before the next billing cycle when the price would have gone up and you keep the 29.99 price. Can do this by calling in adding a loyalty plan with adds a 1 yr contract or by using an upgrade loophole.

Damn, I didn't know about that. However, I've been off contract since the Verizon iPhone 4 release in 2010+ 2 years.

Upon reading a bit more about it, you actually need to have more than one line to take advantage? I've only got one line for myself. Adding another line to save $20 would be pointless.
 
Agreed. I don't know enough about the industry to know why this is. It sounds like someone needs to open up a business and start a new carrier to compete. :)

Probably it's also something about that the cost of covering such a huge landmass as the US is quite expensive.

But still my plan with 12 GB, 12 Hours speak and 4G LTE costs the same as a meal at McDonalds
 
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Probably it's also something about that the cost of covering such a huge landmass as the US is quite expensive.

But still my plan with 12 GB, 12 Hours speak and 4G LTE costs the same as a meal at McDonalds

That "huge landmass" is also covered by paying people, so what's the difference whether it's a small area or a large area if the areas have people in them?
 
To be clear, nothing is free. You are paying for it, and for others to use the system as well. That system depends on more than 50% of people to get out of school and pay more back than what they used. Otherwise it would not be sustainable.

The truth of the matter is the individual is way more efficient at spending money than the government is (see Milton Friedman's work). Would you be more or less careless with what you purchase if it was not coming from your bank account?

It must be the way europeans is raised but I would be very very carefull with other peoples money. you only have 24 hours a day so for me having to think about things like healthcare products like americans would....I would leave that to my doctor. same thing with everything else.
difference between europe and us is that in europe we tend to trust government....for good and for bad....but compared to the US its for the good.
 
I have excellent connectivity not only in the United States but also abroad. So, joke's on you :)

I had to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T this year since I often could not get a signal in the places I needed (always ended up borrowing friends phones). I wanted to like T-Mobile with their great pricing and I would highly recommend it for people who actually can get good coverage when they need it. The joke was on me because I believed the T-Mobile coverage map and that they would improve coverage for me over the last two years.
 
It has all been covered too well in this thread already. Rehashing it all seems fairy futile for those that don't really care anyway.

Boom there is it. The usual responce that Says nothing. Politician would be proud.

Look mate, you want to raise an issue/debates with me, cool, but don't go running and hiding when i reply. These responses of yours are getting a little predictable and meaningless.
 
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Is T-mobile as bad in rural areas as people say that it is? Their coverage map in where I am and where I go seems to be very similar to Verizon. I am tired of having a phone bill that is like a car payment with Verizon, but yet I don't want to sacrifice my coverage. I live in Oklahoma, if that helps anyone answer my question.
 
Just when you think the plans can't be more expensive.
So now AT&T has some great ideas to copy and screw us more.

Although, the plans are well thought out where you can't really go to lower level and save money since the difference from old L to new M is 2 GB. Sigh.
 
Bottom line ATT and Verizon have people over a barrel. The only solution would be for people to take a hit on their coverage, switch to T-Mobile/Sprint and then as their customer numbers and revenue increase they would be able to invest in their networks.

As it is, everyone will whinge about these changes and the carbon copy that I'm sure ATT will announce in the next 3 days and not do anything to 'fix' the problem.

Vote with your wallets folks!
 
I save around $15 a month on my Verizon using the gift cards from the smart rewards daily deal, anybody else do this? Sometimes it's a bit of a pain to get it to load, the page slows down a lot when they come up and you have to click the add to shopping cart fast or they become unavailable. They release more though if you don't get it on the first click you just have to sit there and wait for the add to shopping cart to come up again (usually every 5-10 minutes or so), I've always been able to get them, it is kind of a pain sometimes but worth it to save the $15 a month. As for the new plans I switched to the 4GB for the extra GB and carryover data, 3GB was cutting it a bit close with 3 lines even though we're almost always on wifi.
 
Hello Americans.

Everytime Apple launches a new product , we get plenty of posts about how it's cheaper in the US and how all the features (and services) actually work, as many are US only.
You get serious points for answering in kind, but I really don't see a lot of "ha ha our iPhones don't cost €1200 and yours do" posts - am I turning a blind eye to such posts? The disparity normally only gets mentioned in response to folks outside the US complaining about how high Apple prices are. This, on the other hand, was a case of many people from Europe clicking on and reading a story about changes in clearly-USA-only cellphone plans, and then clicking further to get into the forum thread about clearly-USA-only cellphone plans, specifically so that they could gloat about their cheaper Europe-only cellphone plans. Seems substantively different to me. Look over the posts I quoted and tell me that not one of them seems the least bit mean-spirited.

P.S. I've heard all about Eurovision (my wife lived in Switzerland for a while), and I understand quite well the differences between Europe and the EU (though I never mentioned the EU, I spoke only of people living in Europe, thus, Europeans - plus it was a direct response to "Hello from Europe" in the first post quoted). Quite similar to the difference between "America" and "USA" (though the former frequently gets used for the latter - it's easier to say "Americans" than to say "USAians" - one is based on geographical boundaries while the other is based on political boundaries).
 
Get more for more! Is it just me or does this data plan scale make no sense? Why not just make it +$5 per GB up to the XL plan? Now if verizon LOWERED my current plan cost, I might pay the EXTRA to get the new features. Now I'm actually considering DOWNGRADING my current plan, adding the safety mode, and paying $5 less a month, for crappier service.
 
Is T-mobile as bad in rural areas as people say that it is? Their coverage map in where I am and where I go seems to be very similar to Verizon. I am tired of having a phone bill that is like a car payment with Verizon, but yet I don't want to sacrifice my coverage. I live in Oklahoma, if that helps anyone answer my question.
Drill into T-Mobile's coverage map and you'll see that most of their rural coverage is 2G/3G or Partner coverage.
This is the main reason I dropped them and went back to AT&T.
 
You get serious points for answering in kind, but I really don't see a lot of "ha ha our iPhones don't cost €1200 and yours do" posts - am I turning a blind eye to such posts? The disparity normally only gets mentioned in response to folks outside the US complaining about how high Apple prices are. This, on the other hand, was a case of many people from Europe clicking on and reading a story about changes in clearly-USA-only cellphone plans, and then clicking further to get into the forum thread about clearly-USA-only cellphone plans, specifically so that they could gloat about their cheaper Europe-only cellphone plans. Seems substantively different to me. Look over the posts I quoted and tell me that not one of them seems the least bit mean-spirited.

P.S. I've heard all about Eurovision (my wife lived in Switzerland for a while), and I understand quite well the differences between Europe and the EU (though I never mentioned the EU, I spoke only of people living in Europe, thus, Europeans - plus it was a direct response to "Hello from Europe" in the first post quoted). Quite similar to the difference between "America" and "USA" (though the former frequently gets used for the latter - it's easier to say "Americans" than to say "USAians" - one is based on geographical boundaries while the other is based on political boundaries).

Just in good fun mate.

There is a lot of doom and gloom around the Brexit here , apple products are about the become very expansive here soon.

The whole EU/Euros/Eurovision is me taking the piss of whole setup :) Australia almost won it this year. It's like trying to explain the rules of cricket to a foreigner :p

I knew exactly what you meant, was just in a sarcastic mood.... So I thought I'd have some fun.

On a serious note, I feel for you guys and your plans, they are ......expensive and poor value for money, only cause I'm used to paying less for more, but if I lived in the states, it's the way it is, no point comparing to other countries as you stated. I live in the UK and I can complain all I like paying exactly the same price in pounds as Americans pay in dollars for many goods I see ......but tough I do not get a choice, so it's my best price.
 
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A new Carryover Data feature allows Verizon customers to keep their unused data for an additional month.
This is akin to being thrown a bone. We deserve to keep all our data we pay for. This is where there ought to be a law. But our lawmakers have other priorities.
 
Meanwhile I'm paying $70 for 6 GB of data per month on AT&T.

I switched from unlimited to 2gb last winter, since I was no longer using more an one gb/month. For no apparent reason, they doubled my data plan a couple months later with a "bonus 2gb". So now I'm paying $30/mo for 4gb (with 2gb rollover).

Many others have also reported their AT&T plans were doubled, such as a 3gb plan upgraded to 6gb. I don't know what their criteria are - maybe they doubled mine since I never even use 2gb, so it isn't costing them anything. ;)

Anyway, I'm getting 4gb for $30 from AT&T and it would cost $50 on Verizon now...
 
Drill into T-Mobile's coverage map and you'll see that most of their rural coverage is 2G/3G or Partner coverage.
This is the main reason I dropped them and went back to AT&T.

I tried doing this, and it doesn't say if it is extended (roaming) or what?
 
Just a heads up...

Be careful if you switch to the new Verizon Plan if you get a discount through your employer! Several people on Howardforums have reported that they lost their employee discount and 1 person (so far) said that a Verizon CSR told them that the new plans are NOT eligible for employee discounts since they include rollover data, etc.

I just logged into the Verizon website and was thinking of switching from the OLD 3GB Verizon Plan to the new 4GB Verizon Plan for $5 more per month to get an extra 1 GB + rollover. When the site shows the old and new plans side-by-side, it does NOT reflect my employee discount on the new plan and in the bottom right corner of the screen it says: "Your employee discount saved you 0%".

As a result, I did not change my plan. I'm not sure if this is a glitch or if the new plans are truly ineligible for employee discounts, but be warned! I'm going to wait to make any changes until we know for sure, as losing my employee discount would make that extra 1GB/month of data MUCH more expensive than $5!


UPDATE: I *do* see the discount if I change my plan via the My Verizon app on my iPhone, so hopefully there are just some website glitches that need to be worked out. See subsequent posts below. It seems like different people are having different experiences, with some people seeing corporate discounts via the website while some people are not (like me). Someone on HowardForums also just posted and said that they spoke to a supervisor who said that discounts are NOT going away, so hopefully that is accurate!


Do you have a link to any of these howardforums threads? I haven't seen anything about it. In addition, I just made the switch from the old 18GB to the new 16GB and my discount transferred fine, called to verify. Still, just want to make sure.
 
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