why would you believe this? Aren't Verizon and Google supposedly making an android tablet? This is one I'll believe when I see....this may be what Verizon gets in November instead of iPhone
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Verizon Testing CDMA-Compatible iPads? Possibly LTE 4G?
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Here in Canada, both of our CDMA carriers have installed HSPA+ networks.
Now they all carry the iPhone, and they all extort us together!
CDMA is a dying standard. I think the main reason apple has stuck with AT&T in the states is that they are the only carrier who uses the global standard.
Considering Verizon has "completed" field testing of it's LTE network in Boston and Seattle and laid claims that handsets will begin May 2011 with potential for tablets to appear before then, I don't think the time frame for field testing a ipad on LTE this early is "dumb."
Which makes me think it's LTE. Verizon is still planning on launching LTE in 25~30 markets by the end of 2010. What way to launch a new service by offering a ipad on the network.
Another Verizon Created Rumor....
There is something wrong here. If the rumor about AT&T "outbidding" everyone else to get the iPad were true, why/how did Apple allow AT&T to change the rate plans? This makes no sense.
This is another Verizon inspired rumor by some troubled Verizon employee or stockholder.
There is something wrong here. If the rumor about AT&T "outbidding" everyone else to get the iPad were true, why/how did Apple allow AT&T to change the rate plans? This makes no sense.
This is another Verizon inspired rumor by some troubled Verizon employee or stockholder.
If it was only the iPhone I would agree with you. The problem is that SJ made a huge deal about 'unlimited', 'no contract', and '$29/month' when announcing the iPad. I'm guessing that they were likely in the middle of further exclusivity talks and that they have since broken down. At the end of the day, it's ATTs network so they can do as they please when it comes to pricing. Without granting exclusivity Apple has lost whatever leverage they had over ATT when it comes to plan pricing.
The data changes for the iPad (a big time media consumption device) make it look a lot less attractive than before when someone could get unlimited data. There is no way that Apple wanted this change.
Well, as you said, you're basing your whole argument on a rumor about bidding.
It's just as possible that ATT only has a six month exclusive on the iPad. And/or their contract prevents Apple from talking about a Verizon version yet.
OTOH, Verizon's talking up their coming Android tablets. And they're going to be quite a lucrative market for both them and Sprint. So who knows.
It's just fun to watch
Given that the iPad is rumored to be revamped in the near future (before the 1-year cycle), I wanna say that the next revision will use one unified chip that allows it to switch carriers on the fly (per se). Apple will never manufacturer more than one type of iPad, iPhone, ect. Given that these hybrid chips are showing up left and right, when they find their way into Apple's mobile devices, we will start seeing multiple carriers.
All of these developments have led me to one conclusion: I'm finally going to jailbreak my iPhone and install MyWi (it's only $10). I'll keep my unlimited plan, have a basically free tethering solution, and get a WiFi iPad when the time comes. It seems like AT&T wants people to pursue this option, which is insanity on their part as they only lose money this way. I can't be the only person who has come to this conclusion.
This way, you are not locked-in with yet another device, and you get to enjoy all the Apple products you want. The wireless situation in the country is nuts.
This way, you are not locked-in with yet another device, and you get to enjoy all the Apple products you want. The wireless situation in the country is nuts.
Oh thats funny, I didnt know you were a part of those negotiations. The drivel you spew is nothing more than opinion based on nothing more than your imagination.
I hate when people use the word "never" as in "never going to happen" when describing what Apple might or might not do...
Come on.....none of us have any idea what Apple intends or will do
+1. People that state opinions as if they were fact sound incredibly asinine.
Some of these policies are for reasons less intuitive. It could simply be that AT&T did a market study and found the typical user to be just fine with 200mb and that a power user is fine with 2gb, and that people who jailbreak and hack their phones tend to use over those ranges and bang the network. It could be as simple as a means to choke off excessive users easier and sooner by having a uniform policy to point to.
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Pretty sure they already manufacture slightly different models of the iPhone worldwide. For example, I seem to recall reading somewhere that China's iPhone has restrictions within the hardware on wifi usage.
I thought Apple said it (data plan arena) was not exclusive for the iPad, although the only opening day deal was with ATT. Did I miss something?
True, but intentionally not placing hardware in a design for distribution in one country is different than producing different PCB's or chips for multiple models in one country. Plus, Apple can distribute the non-chinese iPhone in all other countries, where as a Verizon only model ... would only be distributed in the USA.
Please don't blame everything on Jobs, he doesn't run all tasks at apple. It is Apple's decision, as a company that has thousands of people.
It would be more accurate to call it a CDMA iPhone (or iPad). CDMA is used in about 25-30% of the world's cellular market: notably Verizon & Sprint in North America, Japan, South Korea, and China. There are probably a few other CDMA markets of note.
If Apple decided to build a CDMA iPhone (or iPad), it is doubtful that they would deliberately restrict sales to North America (apart from the interval between a U.S. launch and international launch due to supply constraints).
How come this wouldn't happen? they're obviously doing some testing for a reason. I don't understand why a company would do testing on something they would not do. Just for kicks or what?
What exactly do you mean by "optimized"? Can you describe what is required to "optimize" the network?
Are you a wireless engineer by any chance? Based on this post I'm guessing not.
That's like saying the Palm Pre isn't CDMA and restricted to Sprint's frequencies for nothing. It doesn't preclude another device built to the specs of another carrier.
You seem to think that Steve jobs has a dog collar around the neck of Lowell McAdam.
CDMA is no more a dying standard than UMTS. As will all radio technologies, both will be phased out for the latest and greatest wireless standard.
He actually has a pretty good track record.
But this is AT&T
But remember it was AT&T that changed the rate with Apple's iPad before most people had a chance to even see an iPad let alone purchase one. I've lost all interest in an iPad at the current time. I have an iPod Touch & Intel MacBook Pro for when I can use WiFi & had panned on adding an iPad with 3G but AT&T's price change just after the iPad with 3G's introduction killed. Verizon didn't need to get in on this one. AT&T put a large enough damper on this. Why spend time & resources when your competition does it for you.
iPad on 4G will be the next time that Apple can safely advertise. My family, although all Mac Users have all gone with Sprint. Because of many customers on Verizon I have stayed with them, but Sprint is looking better. The iPad seems to be dead for my company for at least another 2 years. But then Sprint is using a different brand of 4G. That should do a very good job of keeping most tablet & smart phones off of their network. But if other companies do it for Sprint or Verizon why can't or won't Apple do it. Look at the % that they do with just 1 phone model. Other companies make severa lphones for the different segments to the cell phone, smart phone market, why not APple?
But remember it was AT&T that changed the rate with Apple's iPad before most people had a chance to even see an iPad let alone purchase one. I've lost all interest in an iPad at the current time. I have an iPod Touch & Intel MacBook Pro for when I can use WiFi & had panned on adding an iPad with 3G but AT&T's price change just after the iPad with 3G's introduction killed. Verizon didn't need to get in on this one. AT&T put a large enough damper on this. Why spend time & resources when your competition does it for you.
iPad on 4G will be the next time that Apple can safely advertise. My family, although all Mac Users have all gone with Sprint. Because of many customers on Verizon I have stayed with them, but Sprint is looking better. The iPad seems to be dead for my company for at least another 2 years. But then Sprint is using a different brand of 4G. That should do a very good job of keeping most tablet & smart phones off of their network. But if other companies do it for Sprint or Verizon why can't or won't Apple do it. Look at the % that they do with just 1 phone model. Other companies make severa lphones for the different segments to the cell phone, smart phone market, why not APple?
Why exactly would it be exclusive to the USA??? You think Apple just hates other countries that use CDMA?
How about the iPhone?
There was no report that AT&T had lost its exclusive deal with the iPhone. AT&T got as big as they did in the smartphone field because of the iPhone. Now after they have as much business as their network can handle now & for some time, they are putting caps on any future expansion. This means that they have just taken the first step in sealing their future, better for the short term but much weaker in the long term. Just another company looking to the short term. Others are being pushed to the long term, but AT&T is going short.
There was no report that AT&T had lost its exclusive deal with the iPhone. AT&T got as big as they did in the smartphone field because of the iPhone. Now after they have as much business as their network can handle now & for some time, they are putting caps on any future expansion. This means that they have just taken the first step in sealing their future, better for the short term but much weaker in the long term. Just another company looking to the short term. Others are being pushed to the long term, but AT&T is going short.