I have never understood the built in sim thing - I want dual sim where I can put in one sim from verizon and one from mintsim or att or whatever in any combination I want.
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iPhone XS Verizon XS is carrier LOCKED
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All of the Verizon phones are now locked for at least 60 days. It has been that way for a while.
This is what I thought too... There was a thread on the main page about it months ago.
Indeed. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be disappointed when they find out. Glad I got the SIM-free model.
My iPhone xs max that I got from Verizon with the payment plan isn’t locked. I even tried and used it with my old att sim as I waited to port.
Correction: Verizon had (past tense) never locked LTE devices due to an agreement with the US government when they won the bid of some LTE frequencies. But apparently now they managed to get away from that with the excuse of theft prevention (as if that actually matters). So now we’re back to the old Verizon with locked phones. A bit sad.
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Nobody does. Case in point only a minuscule number of carriers support it. Apple is on their own on this eSIM thing. The worse part is they’re advertising the new iPhones as dual SIM in ALL markets, even in markets where no carriers support the eSIM. It’s quite idiotic.
Verizon has gone back Sim locking lte devices for a while now..this was a headline months again as they used to not Sim lock any devices..but due to fraud and ppl taking devices on financed accounts and using/selling them with other carriers/countries they made the decision to Sim lock again..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...for-why-it-s-locking-phones-ag-1822940604/amp
Been in place since February.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...for-why-it-s-locking-phones-ag-1822940604/amp
Been in place since February.
Okay, I just chatted with a Verizon rep: IF the phone is purchased through Verizon, with Verizon financing (not bought outright paid in full), then the iPhone is carrier locked until it’s paid off. From this I would take it to mean that if the phone was purchased through IUP (any other financing) it *should* be sold unlocked.
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I don’t understand the relationship between a financed account and the device needing to be locked. I mean really, even if the person sold the device, he/she is still under contract and has to finish his/her payments. The device should be independent. In Singapore, there are subsidized and financed accounts, but all handsets are unlocked out of the box. No carriers screaming theft/fraud there. It’s just Verizon being Verizon wanting to lock phones.
Sorry, nothing against you here, just expressing my frustration with US carriers.
No iOS device on Verizon has ever been SIM locked. LTE or not. I have them all.
Don’t know about the XS as this thread has two opposing data points.
I have an old free T-Mobile 200 mb sim card from my iPad, and installed it in my Max. The phone is locked, and I paid full price for it. Refused to accept the sim. Place the same sim in my X, and had no issue after turning it on.
Why would it work in the X with no issue? A phone I bought from Verizon. It should still allow data.
Called Verizon on newly purchased iPhone XS (via payment plan on business account). Just receive this afternoon and activated with the verizon sim inserted. Took out and replaced with SIM from ATT (personal) and it came up with invalid SIM.
Rep stated that it takes about 24 hours before you can officially use these new iphones on another carrier, but that it WOULD in fact be unlocked. Waiting and staring at my new iphone XS (that looks strikingly similar to my current iPhone X).
Will update tomorrow if it does in fact unlock at some point. I'm sure all carrier's activation services are gridlocked today.
Rep stated that it takes about 24 hours before you can officially use these new iphones on another carrier, but that it WOULD in fact be unlocked. Waiting and staring at my new iphone XS (that looks strikingly similar to my current iPhone X).
Will update tomorrow if it does in fact unlock at some point. I'm sure all carrier's activation services are gridlocked today.
Thanks. I will be keeping my X for a little while longer until this is cleared up. Traveling internationally next month and won't sell my X until I know for sure.
I just chatted with a rep and he was adamant that financed phones are locked until paid off. I wish they were consistent, one way or the other.
Your first post shows what you thought the agreement was, and the fine print shows what it actually was. You thought there was no wiggle room, Verizon made sure there was. Verizon has said that this is a move to combat theft, it would be a little weird then to not to use it on a 1K device.
The rest of the world doesn't have to deal with locked phones..but in the us it's a common thing..lesson learned if u want to guarantee an unlocked device but direct from apple Sim free...I understand the frustration.
So how is this going to work with the dual Sim stuff? If Verizon Sim locks it then the double Sim card stuff is completely useless. How can they get away with that people would go bananas ?
Unless I’m not understanding how the double sim thing works but from the way I understand it using the second Sim would be just like inserting a new Sim so how can it be locked to Verizon??!?
Unless I’m not understanding how the double sim thing works but from the way I understand it using the second Sim would be just like inserting a new Sim so how can it be locked to Verizon??!?
I’m a little happy my X is unlocked purchased on Verizon IUP December of last year...