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iPhone XS Verizon XS is carrier LOCKED
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Willing to bet esim isn't locked but regular nano SIM is...it'll be interesting to see how it's handled...right now only 3 carriers in the us support esim and iOS doesn't even have support for it ATM..btw if u take the Sim out u will notice it's upside down lol.
Actually the upside down sim is correct. The dual sim card in China is just 1 sim slot. 1 upside down, the other not. The upside down sim is the first sim.
Was that at Apple Store or verizon store ??
Mine full price from apple store and work with T Mobile sim card perfectly
*edit If the handset is locked, then it can only support both SIMs from the same carrier, which is a bit silly. This is why imo it is stupid for Apple to advertise the dual SIM feature. Heck, many countries don’t support eSIM, so basically it’s just a single SIM iPhone.
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iPhone 4/4S Verizon is “locked.” Sure, it’s CDMA only phone, but you cannot use it on Sprint. iPhone 5 onwards are unlocked not because they’re iPhones, but because they are LTE phones and thus have to follow the agreement with the US government (unlocked).
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U realize ur comment is incorrect..do you have a series 3 lte watch with active data/cell plan.. Guess what it has an esim.. guess which 3 carriers in the us sell Cellular apple watches...Verizon TMO and att... Even Sprint support esim in some form because of the Apple watch.. They just need to extend it to phones.
Whoops, you’re right. Verizon does support eSIM. It’s Sprint that doesn’t on phones. I was confused. My bad.
Verizon told me they do not lock their devices whether you are on a payment plan or not. Their site here states they do not lock lte devices multiple times without the use of the word most.
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
The new policy is device locking fir the first 60 days.
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/09/...-phones-for-60-days-or-life-of-payment-plans/
My understanding is that it’s an activation lock. If you buy a Verizon branded phone, it has to be activated with a Verizon SIM card on the Verizon network. After that occurs, it should be unlocked. They’re not allowed to lock the phones only to Verizon‘s network due to an agreement with the FCC. What they were able to get away with is requiring activation on their network before the phone can be used on a different network.
For some people, that model is cost prohibitive because it is in eligible for Apple or carrier payment plans.Why wouldn't you just order the Sim free model. That's what I did
Oh yeah.
That's a very valid point. I apologize, I forgot you can't do a payment plan.
My fiance always does Iup and had to get the AT&T model
Now we know why Apple sold the sim free models day 1 instead of waiting a month or two like in the past. There are going to be a lot of unhappy people if the carrier keep them locked for those that paid full price for them and want to move to a different carrier in the next few months or if they want to travel internationally. Locked phones also take a hit in resell value.
Some say it’s not locked at all, it sounds like worst case scenario it’s locked 60 days. Even if it is locked you just pay it off and they Auto Unlock it. Have to do that when you worry about resell value anyways.
May be some very unhappy international travelers if they bought this phone and expecting it to work when they travel in the next 60s days. They get to their destination and find out they are just carrying a brick, because nowhere did Verizon post on their web page that the phones are locked for 60 days.
They had to unlink their LTE devices as per the agreement for the spectrum they bought a while back. Either the stipulations are now up, or they found a way around them, i.e. "Security Reasons."
maybe they can get away with it since these are also suppose to be "5G" phones and thus not subject to the agreement they signed, plus the FCC said they would not enforce that agreement.
I don’t think it’s that. They’re technically not carrier locked. They’re activation locked. Once they’re activated on Verizon‘s network when they’re first purchased, you can put in any SIM card and use it with any carrier. The problem is, it has to be activated on Verizon‘s network first. So you can’t buy a Verizon iPhone and just pop in a SIM card from another carrier.