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garethjs

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ya its extremely hard to picture, hard to see but much harder to un-see

If you activate torch before it gets too bright it’s between the second and 3 dot (from the left)
 
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Craigus91

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im thinking to buy S4, so i checked this topic... But as much as i stare those sample photos, i dont know what i should see on them... could anyone draw an arrow to show the line im supposed to see?

Hi mrex,

I’ve added some arrows to the photo posted above, the line is a little bit to the left of these arrows and most noticeable at the very top of the screen (probably because of the lighting). It is very faint but if you look closely it’s just there.

Hope this helps.
[doublepost=1540034921][/doublepost]If there’s anyone reading here who commented earlier to say they didn’t have an issue: could you post a picture similar to the one from before so we can have a look?

Thanks
 

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SeanLe

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unfortunately i dont see any grey line on that photo

It’s extremely faint and this may sound silly, but try tilt your screen around it will become apparent. It’s almost like optical illusion, that once you see it, you can’t unsee it.
 
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tl01

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thanks for the pic. unfortunately i dont see any grey line on that photo (fully opened in ipad pro). i quess it is better visible irl...

I don’t see the line in that photo but I have a super faint line on my phone when in the dark.
 

Craigus91

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Oct 18, 2018
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I don’t see the line in that photo but I have a super faint line on my phone when in the dark.
I’ve found it a lot easier to see the line on the photo when I view it on my phone but I cannot see it when I view the photo on my PC. It really is that difficult to distinguish
 

<3raining

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I made some pictures, ss gold 44
 

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Craigus91

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Oct 18, 2018
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wow, invisible vertical line gate.
Nearly invisible sadly :(
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I made some pictures, ss gold 44
Thanks for the photos, can you see it on yours? It looks like your torch is on maximum brightness there which makes it very difficult to see. It’s more prominent just before the torch screen ramps up to maximum brightness.
 

<3raining

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Here
 

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mcdj

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I don’t see anything on my SS44. If there is something there, it’s too faint to be bothered by.

I do think that showing a photo of a map with lines on it is the best way to get people to see the actual issue.

Download this gray gradient and let it sync to your watch photos, then open it and scroll all the way in with the crown until you get the stop haptic. Then drag it left and right at varying speeds with your finger while staring at the center of the screen. If there are any brightness/darkness “lines”, they should be visible using this technique. It’s an old retoucher’s trick for checking banding in Photoshop.
 

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Craigus91

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Yeah. I sure as heck don’t see anything...
I agree with you there William, I genuinely can’t see it on this watch.
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I don’t see anything on my SS44. If there is something there, it’s too faint to be bothered by.

I do think that showing a photo of a map with lines on it is the best way to get people to see the actual issue.

Download this gray gradient and let it sync to your watch photos, then open it and scroll all the way in with the crown until you get the stop haptic. Then drag it left and right at varying speeds with your finger while staring at the center of the screen. If there are any brightness/darkness “lines”, they should be visible using this technique. It’s an old retoucher’s trick for checking banding in Photoshop.
Thanks for the test image mcdj however this seems to make my screen look worse. I can still see the persistent line however there seems to be many lines on the test image that move around with it when you scroll. Have you tried it on your watch at all?
 

WilliamG

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So, for science, I went to the Apple Store today and swapped out my 44 SS/white sport band model. The replacement is MILES better. There's still a line IF you know what to look for. I had not had the experience with my first one I'd never, ever notice - and I'm picky. It's near invisible. I have to really tilt and turn the Watch to even remotely see it. Even then, it's almost a trick of the eyes to see it.

That said, this replacement Watch SS 44mm has... light bleed (for lack of a better word) toward the bottom of the screen. It's not a major deal, and I'll take it over the really annoying vertical line that was super obvious. It's only noticeable on grey (e.g. scrolling through the Settings menus) while in a dimly-lit room. Bleh. I'm done with Watches. :)

So yeah, I think all the 44 Watches have this line anomaly, but there's definitely a variance in how noticeable it is.
 

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So yeah, I think all the 44 Watches have this line anomaly, but there's definitely a variance in how noticeable it is.

I’m Thinking you’re correct. It’s likely variable for certain watches how noticeable it is, and if one actually knows specifically what to look for. Your eyes are more trained to know what to look for versus someone who does not recognize the vertical line.
 

WhiteWhaleHolyGrail

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Nov 14, 2016
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I have looked at the images in this thread and loaded the torch and maps on my SS 44mm - I don't have any lines at all. If I did, I would return it ASAP having bought it only a week ago.

I'm not sure on what basis people are assuming this issue is widespread - this thread is tiny in size and sample rate.
 
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Extoll

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SG S4 Sports band, 44. Release day model.

I have a line and no light bleed. Notice it a few days ago. It's nothing bad and can't see it on any watch faces i use. It's very odd it's showing up at the same spot for everyone. Time to take a look at the tear downs of the watch. Maybe it's a bad design and something pushing on the screen at the same spot making the screen bend a little and making the line.
 
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