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I can't believe people were calling fake on this.

The guy had submitted a solution before he put this video up! If it was bogus, he would have just made a fool of himself when his solution didn't work.

Hope that crow is tasting good about now.
 
weldon said:
Just wanted to point out that it is perfectly legit to buy the OEM version of Windows XP Media Center from Newegg.com for only $115. Media Center Edition is a superset of XP Pro so you get support for the Core Duo as well.

Newegg is likely in violation of the distribution requirements of Microsoft OEM software. Simply put, they may only distribute unopened OEM software to System Builders, not end users.
 
apollo8fan said:
Newegg is likely in violation of the distribution requirements of Microsoft OEM software. Simply put, they may only distribute unopened OEM software to System Builders, not end users.
When the OEM edition was first sold through Newegg and other retailers, it required that you purchase some hardware component with the OS (almost any hardware including the MCE remote, a mouse, CPU, hard drive, motherboard, etc.). Since most people at the time were interested in building their own MCE box, this wasn't onerous. Sometime in the last couple years, Newegg has dropped the warning about buying hardware with the OS. If it makes you feel better, buy a $5 mouse with the OS and be done with it.
 
my school sells educational versions of
xp pro for $50 to students at the college.
That was the easiest way for ME to get it.

I think the licenses are more restrictive though.
 
Peace said:
I really believe if the solution is a viable one and doesn't break any laws it's going to force Steve Job's hand in making OS X for PeeCees..

Much as I'd like that to be true, how do you work that one out? Right now, this development essentially splits the market thusly:

Apple computers: Computers that can run Mac OS X, GNU/Linux, and Windows XP

Everyone else: Computers that can run GNU/Linux and Windows XP.

It strikes me that the hardware vendor with the advantage here is Apple. This is especially true in an environment where people want to try OS X, but are worried about blowing hundreds or thousands of dollars on new hardware that might not turn out to be what they want.

Now, be clear on this: I'd love it if what you say is true. I would buy two copies, one to run on a Shuttle-form factor PC with a decent graphics card for the living room, the other for a mid-range Thinkpad. I just don't think it's terribly likely.
 
epepper9 said:
I have read this whole thread, but have some questions. I apologise if they've been covered, but it's hard to read and take in hundreds of posts.
#1. How does one get to become a tester?
#2. When can we expect the full instructions public on the net
#3. What are the known bugs?
Thanks
If you go to those links listed in the first page, you can actually download the zip files with a readme on how to get all this working. It's a huge deal.
 
slooksterPSV said:
If you go to those links listed in the first page, you can actually download the zip files with a readme on how to get all this working. It's a huge deal.
I take it you mean onmac.net. After that site loads taking half an hour, I click download only to get a page with "Windows XP on the Intel Mac version 0.1" and nothing to click... :(
 
peharri said:
Much as I'd like that to be true, how do you work that one out? Right now, this development essentially splits the market thusly:

Apple computers: Computers that can run Mac OS X, GNU/Linux, and Windows XP

Everyone else: Computers that can run GNU/Linux and Windows XP.

It strikes me that the hardware vendor with the advantage here is Apple. This is especially true in an environment where people want to try OS X, but are worried about blowing hundreds or thousands of dollars on new hardware that might not turn out to be what they want.

Now, be clear on this: I'd love it if what you say is true. I would buy two copies, one to run on a Shuttle-form factor PC with a decent graphics card for the living room, the other for a mid-range Thinkpad. I just don't think it's terribly likely.

Uh, that's not true. This is closer to the truth:

Apple computers: Computers that can run Mac OS X, GNU/Linux (hacked), and Windows XP (hacked).

Everyone else: Computers that can run Mac OS X (hacked), GNU/Linux and every Windows version.
 
I, personally, think it's cool, and would love to get an iMac to replicate.

I love my PowerBook, but I never quite got used to the lack of gaming (something that I did not anticipate when I bought the little guy for college). How awesome, then, would it be to have the architecture and hardware of a kick-arse computer like the iMac, but still be able to play, say, Counter Strike?

I'm tempted to buy an iMac and try this. :eek:

Granted, I'd want Narf to run a few tests on it first, to see how well it can run said Counter Strike (And World of Warcraft) <3
 
DeathChill said:
Uh, that's not true. This is closer to the truth:

Apple computers: Computers that can run Mac OS X, GNU/Linux (hacked), and Windows XP (hacked).

Everyone else: Computers that can run Mac OS X (hacked), GNU/Linux and every Windows version.

and even close to the truth would be

Apple computers: Computers that can run Mac OS X, GNU/Linux (legally hacked), and Windows XP (newest version legally hacked).

Everyone else: Computers that can run Mac OS X (illegally hacked older version that not many people have done/can do - OR a really poor developers version), GNU/Linux and every Windows version.
 
DeathChill said:
Uh, that's not true. This is closer to the truth:

Apple computers: Computers that can run Mac OS X, GNU/Linux (hacked), and Windows XP (hacked).

Everyone else: Computers that can run Mac OS X (hacked), GNU/Linux and every Windows version.

Everyone else: Computers that can run GNU/Linux and Windows, and can, in a small number of cases where the hardware is suitable, illegally and through hacks, run Mac OS X.

Oh, and the word "Hacked" shouldn't be next to GNU/Linux in either list.

OS X isn't going to run on every PC, and anyone using it is going to have to constantly dodge Apple's anti-EULA-breaching measures. I also have little doubt that, in time, pretty much every version of Windows will be available in a usable form, be it via VMWare type hacks for older versiojns, or dual booting, for all Intel Macs. And there's nothing illegal about running it.
 
DeathChill said:
Indeed :) However Intel is FINALLY getting it right.

Uh, I'm talking about Conroe, it's top chip is priced lower then AMD's top offerings and is faster then them as well.



EFI was developed by Intel, that's a given. I don't know why you're making such odd..odd accusations that AMD created it.


There's not such thing as an EFI supported processor. EFI is the equivalent of a BIOS, but more advanced. You seem to be pulling things out of your...bottom.. with that one. Mac OS X relies on specific EFI modules created by Apple, and unless this guy somehow got them and put them into his EFI flash ROM deal (which won't work as apparently it has to be done a special way as it was already tried). Mac OS X 10.4.5 already works on non-EFI computers (as is obvious by the fact any computer with SSE2 can run it).


I 100% agree that the x86 market wouldn't be the same without AMD. AMD pushed Intel to make better chips, and Intel is going to push AMD to make better chips.

EDIT: Also, this is NOT a flaming post so don't think I'm being rude or anything, I'm just having a fun argument. :):)

hey, that's we all do here right? ;)
 
ManchesterTrix said:
No offense progx, you have no clue what you're talking about. EFI, was designed by Intel, AMD had nothing to do with EFI. And while AMD had the first and better 64bit solution, Intel had a much better mobile solution with their Pentium M. They're also responsible for little things like USB and PCIe.

probably. i'm not use to the x86 platform since there is SO MUCH TO KNOW!

that's why i don't care about computers anymore. since Apple has made the switch, i really want nothing to do with it anymore. i mean, as a PowerPC Mac user, my time is over and now there is nothing exciting anymore.

as i said in a previous post, in a different thread, i'm just going to be gunning for professional wrestling and music from now on. Apple was always my first love, now it's not the same anymore. so, i'm reading up, changing up my workouts and, hopefully, my friends will be building a ring soon so i can practice taking falls and bumps.

jeez…i'd never thought i'd see the day where i didn't care about computers anymore. eh, times change. but, i'll still argue to defend the old regime, especially when the **** hits the fan. haha. :D
 
Azmodon said:
I, personally, think it's cool, and would love to get an iMac to replicate.

I love my PowerBook, but I never quite got used to the lack of gaming (something that I did not anticipate when I bought the little guy for college). How awesome, then, would it be to have the architecture and hardware of a kick-arse computer like the iMac, but still be able to play, say, Counter Strike?

I'm tempted to buy an iMac and try this. :eek:

Granted, I'd want Narf to run a few tests on it first, to see how well it can run said Counter Strike (And World of Warcraft) <3

can't, 3-D card won't work.
 
boot camp?

breaking news from money.cnn.com...


"Apple Computer introduces "Boot Camp" software that allows Intel-based Macs to run Windows XP. More soon."
 
Now that's something I really didn't expect to see. At least not this soon.:eek:
 
I'm surprised Apple is showing its cards so soon. If I was a betting man I would have betted on a virtualization solution, not a dual boot option.


Hopefully Apple will also offer a virtualization feature.
 
Quoted from Apple's Release Statement

Bootcamp is available as a Public Beta today however,

"Boot Camp will be a feature in “Leopard”"
 
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