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Video of Windows XP Booting on iMac
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Hyde said:
VPC would suit my needs, if it worked on Intel Macs!
Where is it? When is it scheduled to be released? A: ?, when MS *amn well feels like it.
This is a breakthrough because it is available now (well, ok, really, really soon, if it's not a fake which I'm sure it isn't.
)Anyway, the Mac isn't being dragged down. Really, Windows users are being dragged up. Do you really think anyone that has the chance to choose either Mac OS X or Windows, won't choose OS X every chance they get?
This is a good thing. It's going to put Apple boxes in a lot more people's hands. (Maybe not this hack, but eventually) That's going to encourage developer, not discourage them.
PtMD said:
Looks like he went back and edited his post, as you can see from my quote. My response was to his original wording: "Macs have *always* been Linux." His edited version is correct.
MacsRgr8 said:
Considering he's likely on track to win $13000, he probably doesn't care too much about video quality. For those who still think this is a fake, the guy giving out the prize in this contest has posted that he's been in contact with this guy's team for awhile and based on the progress he's seen, he thinks it's legit. Better get out that crow and silverware.
Hyde said:
VPC is way too slow. Running at native speeds is a huge improvement. The next version of VPC may run at full speed, but we won't know that until it ships. Quit being such babies about this, it's not going to kill the mac, if anything it may help mac sales since now the mac is the only box on which you can run both OSX and XP legally.
App makers will make a version for any OS as long as it sells. And given a choice, mac users will always buy the mac version over the PC version, not to mention the many users who will never do this and will continue to demand a mac version.
Exactly!
Basically, this is "why" for all those that ask. I have to be able to run Windows. This will save me the price of a whole second laptop.
I might even splurge on the 2.0 --> 2.16 GHz upgrade... well, OK, I won't save *that* much money
jabooth said:If this aint happining...I will get a MacBook.
If this is happening... I'll sell my PC and go for the MacBook Pro
Basically, this is "why" for all those that ask. I have to be able to run Windows. This will save me the price of a whole second laptop.
I might even splurge on the 2.0 --> 2.16 GHz upgrade... well, OK, I won't save *that* much money
direct link of the video for those who want a copy of this moment on their hard drives
http://www.projectosx86.org/winonmac.mov
http://www.projectosx86.org/winonmac.mov
PtMD said:
This is true. I am excited about the BAMBIOS project, even though it may yet encounter insurmountable problems. But it's a proven idea, and even if this latest hack turns out to be fake there is still a good chance that true native Win-on-Mac will happen with good compatibility.
simie said:
You got cataracts chief? That was a windows install. First it formatted the main drive, then it began to copy install files. It was a boot form and install disk is why it took so long. When windows installs its viral plague on your machine, you boot from a CD, the CD copies a very basic operable system which has nothing but the ability to install windows, copies the install cabs and files, then reboots into the aforementioned system to complete the install.
Sigh. I guess skepticism is healthy but you guys are just cracking me up.
As for the person questioning how you can film and type at the same time because there's two of them? Two people are involved, narf2006 and blanka, both working together on this. This is pretty clear in the video when the camera pans and someone reaches for the keyboard other than the person holding the camera.
The Windows logo on the white background is a custom loading screen. This is easily done and has been for years; you can have Windows boot up to whatever picture you'd like it to display. Google it. Personally, I thought it was a nice touch.
Why is everyone so quick to piss on the parade?
You're wrong. I re-watched the video looking specifically at the mouse. There is no unusual mouse "thinking" activity. In fact, there's no spinning wheel (ala Mac) as you claim.Bishop604 said:I call FAKE on this video WHY the mouse! if you look closely the mouse is a MAC icon mouse not a windows mouse, when window's is THINKING the mouse changes into a Hourglass but when a MAC is thinking it puts the Hourglass NEXT to the pointer or uses the Spinning wheel depending on the program, as in Microsoft® Virtual PC!
As for the person questioning how you can film and type at the same time because there's two of them? Two people are involved, narf2006 and blanka, both working together on this. This is pretty clear in the video when the camera pans and someone reaches for the keyboard other than the person holding the camera.
capran said:
The Windows logo on the white background is a custom loading screen. This is easily done and has been for years; you can have Windows boot up to whatever picture you'd like it to display. Google it. Personally, I thought it was a nice touch.
I guess you haven't done many XP installs before. The "exit Setup" message you're talking about is the default message when you try to install XP to an unrecognizable drive, in this case the C: partition2 whose file format is "unknown"; Windows is going to give you grief if you try to install to this partition. After he exits the attempted install he formats the drive with NTFS with a quick format, and afterwards Windows then copies the files over. You see this in the video. Nothing mysterious here.simie said:
Why is everyone so quick to piss on the parade?
Don M. said:
1. Mac Zeal.
2. Initially this hack looked like an other "Leaked 6G iPod OMFG!!!!11ONE" prank, though it is looking increasingly like he's not pulling our leg.
If it is legit we will know soon...
I have heard it all. Ok, installing windows on a mac is not dumb. It's is a necessity in some cases. People see to worry about viruses on the Windows machine breaking the mac, and to that I say, "did you eat paint chips?" With the possible exception of the person who installs windows on a second partition with a Mac OS X install, which 95% of saavy users would not do, there is no danger at all of the PC messing up the mac. In 20 Years of side-by-side computing, the PC has nevver once been compatible out of the box with an HFS partition. You cannot destroy what you cannot see. It wouldn't matter if you got the worst strain of every PC virus ever known and it ate your windows install. If the Mac Install was on a different drive, and most likely even a different partition, it would boot up just like it always had. The only thing I wonder about, is how would you select the boot drive. but I'm betting that we can rely on EFI for that. Prolly the same option-power key combo we've always used. Hell it might even recognize it as a windows partition and sdisplay that garbage little logo on the drive select screen. Only thing I worry about is the autocratic boot loader that installs with windows and hijacks the whole computer. but with EFI, I imagine that's out of the picture.
Right, but you're not looking long-term. If this kind of thing goes mainstream, with time there will be no reason for companies to make Mac apps. Slowly, people will trickle back into using Windows as there are fewer and fewer Mac apps. Eventually, Macs will be down to a base of pro musicians, video editors, and compositors using Apple's pro software. Back to the "Macs are for creative pros" myth, back to the mid-90s when Apple was langushing in despair.cr2sh said:
Or they'll be more popular than ever. Either way, the next few years will be crucial for Apple's future.
Right, but most Windows users are Mac-haters who have never used Macs. They hear "thousands of viruses attacking Macs", and they don't know or care that it's actually *Windows* that is being attacked. And Apple's "virus-free" image is severely tainted. Look at the brouhaha over two alpha-quality viruses that users had to launch themselves!SPUY767 said:
age234 said:
You're being a pessimist. Who's to say that the windows version won't die out instead?
Think about it. You have a box that runs both systems. Why in your right mind would you buy the XP version instead of the mac version? The only thing I see this as a potential threat to is games.
thegreatunknown said:
Apple's hardware is both amazing and not so amazing at the same time, depending on who you talk to. XP is crappy for many people, but they still want it badly enough to try this sort of thing. What can it hurt if they do it of their own will?
age234 said:
awe, please... that would just happen IF the announcement was ever OFFICIAL... like billy boy taking the stage and offering us efi support or something... THEN windows would officially run on a mac and all kinds of theories would pop up from nowhere and everywhere at the time...
It is ridiculous to think that software companies rely their desicions based on user hacks... Then there would be no microsoft to blame!
wheezy said:Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime. Give when they need it, not for their entire life.
And for the sake of humanity get rid of the corrupt politicians. Wait, then there would be none! Catch 22!
Build a man a fire, and He'll be warm for a day. . .
Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. . .
cr2sh said:
nope. xp pro is dual proc/core aware, home only toys with one cpu.
you have to jump to the server versions to take advantage of more than two cores.
interesting video, very interesting windows logo on grey background, bit suspicious, but whatever. it could be useful as i have some windows programmes i cannot do without, which makes it hard, because i only have a powerbook and REFUSE, POINT BLANK, to purchase a PC.
I don't think I wanna spend $310+ for Windows XP Pro just to run it on an x86-based Mac. Since the Mac didn't come with Windows XP Pro, one must purchase the full retail version to be legal with the O/S and its EULA.