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Video of Windows XP Booting on iMac
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Uh, those are UPGRADES for previous versions of Windows. Full retail version is $300+.Don M. said:
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yep - that too. FPS Doug had better look out!!
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apollo8fan said:
Not really. There are ways around this that's perfectly legal. You could buy an copy of Windows 98 off of eBay (that has an unused key) and then buy the upgrade.
Then you basically dump the contents of the WinXP CD to a friend's PC and slipstream the updates (so you won't have to download then all when you run WinXP). Then just burn it back to CD (with a bootable tag) and change the disc name. A lot of system adminstrators use this method and it recommended by Microsoft.
Don M. said:
There are always ways of acquiring Windows XP Pro through the grey market. The point I'm bringing up is Apple is not restricting the installation of Windows on its machines, so doing this isn't violating Apple's EULA. To legitimately install Windows XP, one must acquire a full, valid, non-transferred, non-OEM, license. The grey market is replete with these "low-cost" versions of Windows XP, but the licensing isn't really on the up-and-up. Being a licensed OEM System Builder who has passed the Microsoft System Builder Pre-Installation exam, I know the legitimate channels for acquiring a legitimate license of Windows XP. The Amazon link you provided is NOT Amazon themselves, but other individuals selling their supposed "full" versions of Windows XP. These are likely OEM versions with a slight markup, sold without the accompanying hardware that is required for OEM's to sell the OEM license.
Heck, I could get Windows XP running on an x86-based Mac if I wanted to without paying for Windows XP. I'm just pointing out what must be done to be on the up-and-up.
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btw, my friends, this is my 500th post
. This is great news for me, as i can get an intel mac, and keep apple's design, and keep my dignity as a mac user. btw, my friends, this is my 500th post
suntzu said:
There-in lies how to acquire a legitimate, full license for XP Pro. XP Pro cannot be upgraded from Windows 98. What's the history of the Windows98 being purchased? Is it a full, unused version? Like I said in my previous post, I could get Windows XP running without paying for Windows XP, just how to be legit when doing it is what I'm bringing up for discussion here.
Well, I guess the question that needs to be asked is this. If it's really a fake, why bother submitting it to the contest? Wouldn't that just prove automatically it was a fake?
It doesn't make sense to me to upload fake pictures, upload a fake movie, and then enter yourself into the contest. If he wanted to hurt the guy's computer it seems like a twisted malicious thing to do.
I think it's legit but I think he still hasn't figured out how to dual-boot yet. I think all he's done is install Windows XP on the MacIntel. He needs that other portion (dual-boot) to be useful.
It doesn't make sense to me to upload fake pictures, upload a fake movie, and then enter yourself into the contest. If he wanted to hurt the guy's computer it seems like a twisted malicious thing to do.
I think it's legit but I think he still hasn't figured out how to dual-boot yet. I think all he's done is install Windows XP on the MacIntel. He needs that other portion (dual-boot) to be useful.
Well, so can I and I suspect so can the majority of people who are interested in a dual-booting setup.apollo8fan said:
Since dual-booting is a requirement of the contest, he's pretty much wasting his time (and won't get the prize) if this hasn't been figured out.suntzu said:
My rather limited understanding of the contest is that a custom bootloader to pick partitions/OSes wasn't the problem; it's emulating the BIOS layer to get WinXP to run on an EFI machine. Hence I believe the video only showed the "hard" part of the contest.
I may be totally wrong, however.
How soon will we find out if this is legit? I probably wouldn't install Windows on my mac for some time, but it would be nice to know if you can.
cr2sh said:
I bet Bill isn't quad cpu aware, let alone his steaming pile of brain-**** XP
Like others on this one....great problem solving (if isn't faking it using a windows box and just the iMac for the screen.....what's stopping this tech heads?) but personally I have absolutely no use for a **** OS on a Mac. I'd rather use OS9 than XP.
nostaws said:
I wouldn't worry about that being a sticking point. Holding down the option key on boot gives you a choice of partitions to boot from - and there's no inherent restriction that these must be OS X partitions, just "blessed" EFI boot partitions.
You can see this in action by burning a rEFIt CD image, inserting the CD, and then restarting with option held down. You can easily choose your internal OS X boot partition or the CD's EFI shell to boot from ... better yet, it's doing things "the Mac way" and makes selecting the OS at boot an option instead of a menu present on every boot.
This doesn't require multiple physical drives, either, it's also possible for multiple blessed partitions to share one physical drive. There's a hidden EFI partition on all Intel-based Macs with more than enough room to store the necessary drivers et al to mount a FAT32 partition and continue booting from there.
I'm actually pretty pleased with the way Apple has played this. Letting a third-party provide the means to install Windows takes Apple support out of the loop. I'd hate for them to waste their time doing BIOS testing and updates - let another vendor focus on that niche market.
