Problem is this ISN’T taking advantage of the M1 chip. Just because a company says it’s only available for “X” product doesn’t mean it makes full use of it.
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Video: Testing Stage Manager on iPadOS 16 With an External Display
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No full screen mode for when you just want to use one app on the extended display? How very innovative.
Yes. Just make it vertical on the side (in landscape mode), at least as an option. The duplicate representation of apps (a) on the dock and (b) on the Stage Manager sidebar is similar to what was often criticized about Windows, having apps both in the Start menu and (when running) in the task bar.
To me it’s the other way around. I really like how easy and natural it is to move between spaces (specially full-screen apps) with a trackpad.
I think the issue is that some perceive this as Apple making an artificial advantage for the M1 chip.
That is actually supported, the MacRumors video just does a very incomplete job of showing how Stage Manager works. See for example this YouTube video, where the Notion app is opened and then around 7:56 is maximized fullscreen on the external display:
As a side note, it’s clear that this external fullscreen rendering would in principle be possible even on non-M1 iPads, at the very least in a mirroring mode, but Apple decided to not implement that.
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Why on earth do the windows not have the macOS trafflic light buttons? Samsung Dex mode has the standard minimize, maximize, and close buttons on it's windows, and that runs off of a damn phone. But Stage Manager mode on the M1 iPads don't despite having the guts of a Mac in them?!
Stage manager also adds proper support for an external monitor... Displays the image in the monitor's native aspect ratio. Option tab can't do it. So unless Apple makes further modifications, if stage manager isn't running, then the image displayed on an external monitor will be cropped in 4x3 mode with black bars to the sides.
Some apps you might want to run in less than full screen mode... Like Instagram or Spotify or Apple music.
This! The biggest thing missing from ipad's existing multitasking system is the ability to minimize a window without having to use a gesture. It'll be worse in stage manager when you can't easily minimize a window. Apple already solved this problem on macOS years ago with the traffic light (as you call it). They need to bring it over to iPad.
When I saw the patents for "Pro Mode" I thought that's what they would do at WWDC. But instead we got...this. For all the talk and advertising of wanting the iPad to be able to replace traditional laptops, they're doing a very bad job at it.
This will be a huge productivity boon for me as I’m a project manager that uses Citrix when I don’t have my work laptop. Using the external display to run my desktop will be game changing. Looks good.
I'd like to see some sort of hub come out with different types of expansion ports for the iPad. just like there is for Mac.
The ability to connect drives and see them mount and be useable in iPad os. SD Card reader and other things.
The ability to connect drives and see them mount and be useable in iPad os. SD Card reader and other things.
There already is. The Kensington Studio Dock is one such hub (costing as much as an iPad lmao)
But because of the limitations of iPadOS...yeah...you're still better off getting a Macbook instead for the combined cost of the iPad and the dock.
This is what I think more and more every time I see it demonstrated. It seems like it is more of a graphical wizzbang feature rather than a functional workflow improvement feature.
I wonder if it works on ultra wide screens.
I need to buy an iPad and if this works on 21:9 I’m sold
I need to buy an iPad and if this works on 21:9 I’m sold
Yes, Stage Manager is a GUI disaster on small screens. What people are unhappy about therefore is mostly the absence of external display support. Imagine having bought an iPad Pro just some 16 months ago or an iPad mini just now and being left out of non-mirroring external display support. You basically bought a product Apple already knew was obsolete.
It makes you think twice about buying an Apple product, especially an M1 iPad Air. Since the base model doesn’t support memory swapping I expect it to become obsolete real soon and therefore the 256 GB version as well.
On just the iPad, seems like a more inefficient use of space than current split mode; yes, you have app pairs that stay open, but not sure how it's radically different than the current way of doing things.
With an external monitor, I can see this being more useful being able to have 2-3 apps open at a time, but really, if I'm doing that much work, I'm on my Mac anyway...
With an external monitor, I can see this being more useful being able to have 2-3 apps open at a time, but really, if I'm doing that much work, I'm on my Mac anyway...
Obsolete? #hyperbolic
The iPad purchased 16 months ago has had no features taken away from it. Rather, you are getting several new features and support for iPadOS 16. If the purchaser has buyer's remorse or purchased a product on rumored upcoming features, is that fair to blame Apple?
Also, Apple has indicated that Stage Manager is a baseline for the future. The purchaser's next iPad will have that feature or seek a better tablet solution elsewhere.
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This feature is incredibly overrated. It’s all flash and doesn’t add much in terms of productivity. I’ll just use stage manager on the M2 MacBook Air if I really want to with the added bonus of true multitasking. I was hoping this would be the feature to make me want an iPP for portable productivity but it is not that.
I can see this as useful when using a magic keyboard. But a MacBook still does this better, at least looking at the video. For those who prefer touchscreens, this may be a better option than the MacBook. But for me, the MacBook is still a better option. Looking at prices, an iPad Pro is almost the same price as my MacBook Pro, at the same 1 TB storage size and also including the price for the Magic Keyboard. It is a bit cheaper, so may be interesting once the software is there. Not for me yet though.
The funny part is this feature looks absolutely terrible.
Who’s they?
Because Apple (Craig) made it very clear in an interview that it’s not a big deal and is just 1 new way of doing multitasking on Mac and iPad.
It’s whackos on macrumors that have made a big deal out of it.
Said no one ever. Window management on Mac blows away windows and has since 2003.
It seems disingenuous of Apple to claim a 2020 iPad Pro is too sluggish to handle this feature. It reminds me of when the iPhone 4S came out and Apple said the iPhone 3GS and 4 simply lacked the performance to run Siri (which was originally a third party app that ran on those iPhones before Apple acquired Siri and integrated it into iOS). If my four year old, bottom of the line work laptop can handle multitasking and multiple external displays, a 2020 iPad Pro can handle this feature. It’s a disappointing marketing gimmick.
I have been using it for a few days and it works like a charm. It is still not perfect in the way it resizes windows, for example when you switch to the app you want to use you basically get a shrank version of your app, and everything else just become tiny windows in the background, it is an ineffective use of screen real estate… but it delivers exactly what Apple promised 100%.