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Video: Testing Stage Manager on iPadOS 16 With an External Display
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The bunch of random-sized windows is one of the dumbest things about this feature. They need to make it more like Windows with the new snap features and layouts that are perfectly fit together. This feature is an aesthetic nightmare and I'm probably never going to use it. Just going to stick to tabbing and using multiple desktops. With the Rectangle app you can snap windows to perfect halves or perfect thirds and I use it constantly.
Good video. Stage Manager can be quite useful. Disappointed that not many iPads can run this.
Imagine calling a product obsolete because it still does exactly what you bought it for…
How many people bought a non-M1 iPad but have never used it because they’re waiting for Apple to possibly add new software features in the future?
Personally, my job is VERY iPad intensive, and having a MacBook ok would just add a device that I don’t need. Wit Stage Manager, I can finally over lay things and have multiple apps running well side by side. I think this is perfect and now, I only need one device. It is seriously the exact feature I have been wanting from Apple.
Did i just saw apple implement apple equivalent of windows alt+tab ? Uf i guess ill wait for M3 or M4 icon alligning feature support.
Yep, every time i see the stage manager in action, there's the dock as well right in front of you.
The stage manager seems like a glorified dock and I can't understand why don't just upgrade the dock to something more useful. I mean, the mac can do multitasking with just the dock, it's not like there's something magical about the stage manager for multitasking..
That would be great! Then, presumably, we would be back to two years between major OS versions. More time in the oven would be nice. Sign me up.
But Apple didn't claim that at all. Macrumors forums posters made that claim, mainly because they didn't read the article but read the headline, and then jumped to conclusions and posted those as facts.
People keep forgetting the history. Android always had multi tasking as it acts like a normal OS. From what I remember their SDK is based on Java that manages your memory for you (garbage collection) Managed memory is slower and more unpredictable for apps than allocating your own memory. Therefore iOS on similar specced machines as android performed better. (iOS was running on 2gb ram before and was still smoother than 4/8gb android devices).
But the cost of that is apple we’re very strict with multi tasking and apps memory usage. Android was not, which is why you need a task manager to kill long running tasks that slow the system down. Apple favours a smooth and responsive system over having more things running.
So when going’s to stage manager apple
Has to manage the old world with the new world. If all old applications expected to generally have the full resources of the system how do you manage multiple applications at once? Your going to have to swap additional memory in instantaneously to maintain the illusion that programs are running simultaneously.
It looks like they’re doing that in hardware rather than relying on the OS to do that in code. If it was so simple and efficient they wouldn’t be limiting it to 3 or 4 apps would they? Mac and windows don’t have that limitation so there has to a be an actual reason. And that reason is performance.
So if you don’t understand the history of the OS you may think it’s a scam but it doesn’t look like it is to me.
Stage Manager is probably what Apple will push as a virtual desktop when their VR goggles drop...?
2GB iPads smoother than a 8GB Android? Generally not true, but in any case it's definitely not due to RAM, but to CPU, storage etc.
I have iPads with 2GB and Android devices with 4, 6, 8 and 16GB.
2GB iPads are not smooth in the first place. And Android reloads apps just like iPads. The only difference is that Android allows swap (which you can disable) to have more memory than your physical RAM and that you can decide to exclude apps from reloading (which will not completely exclude them, but give them priority). And when using Dex you can get low RAM warning messages, while IOS will either crash or reload everything (or both).
I’m talking about historically older iPads and iPhones had less memory than the compatible android devices had at the time but ran smoother.
Yes now running ios16 on an older iOS device won’t always give you great performance.
But as you stated android has always had memory management more like a normal OS. I’m sure most apps use garbage collection because they are still built using Java right?
My hope is that as the release gets closer they open this up to the "lesser" hardware. Jailbroken devices have been able to use external monitors completely for awhile now, though somewhat a kludge. I know Apple wants to drive sales to new devices, but let me fully utilize external monitors with my current iPad mini on official software. I don't care so much about Stage Manager, if it takes an M1 to drive that then so be it.
What is wrong with you and the others criticizing those of us who bought machines that were only introduced 8 months ago that can't use the latest OS features? We have every right to be angry. I'm not sure how you think we are the "whiny" ones when you and many others are the ones constantly complaining about our completely valid frustrations.
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I wouldn't waste any of your time trying to understand anyone like this. They just feed off the criticism of others.
what’s really interesting, as someone who’s used stage manager, is people saying that it doesn’t make sense on an ipad but it does on external display.
the current ipad screens aren’t much smaller than the 13” MBP and former 11” MBA and since they obviously had macos they had windowing (if you hide the left bar which you can bring back up like you would a slide over app) it looks like a mac with just 4 apps open. i know some people hate the limit, but it’s super helpful for me. on my mac i’ll habe 10+ windows open and struggle to focus.
as far as the auto window moving, it can be a little disorientating. i hope they improve it, but not remove it. i often lose windows behind windows on my mac so this could really help me.
the current ipad screens aren’t much smaller than the 13” MBP and former 11” MBA and since they obviously had macos they had windowing (if you hide the left bar which you can bring back up like you would a slide over app) it looks like a mac with just 4 apps open. i know some people hate the limit, but it’s super helpful for me. on my mac i’ll habe 10+ windows open and struggle to focus.
as far as the auto window moving, it can be a little disorientating. i hope they improve it, but not remove it. i often lose windows behind windows on my mac so this could really help me.
Apple explicitly made this claim. See:
“Apple's Craig Federighi Further Explains Why Stage Manager is Only for M1 iPads”
Apple's Craig Federighi Further Explains Why Stage Manager is Only for M1 iPads
Following the WWDC keynote last week, Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi spoke with TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino about the...
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Also the iOS 16 preview page on Apple’s website, footnote 5, “[Stage Manager is] Available on iPad Air (5th generation), iPad Pro 12.9-inch (5th generation), and iPad Pro 11-inch (3rd generation).”
This is a good point. I think we need to reconcile the fact that the iPad and Mac are going to serve two different audiences. I have a Mac (Studio) and it is my main personal driver and system for my small side business.
My wife does not have a Mac but she does have an iPad Pro (m1) and she loves it. Its for personal use and minor productivity tool for photos, videos, etc. With Stage Manager she can take it from mobile mode and put it into a desktop profile to make it easier to do email, browsing, working with her photos (from her iPhone) and write articles which she does. It would be perfect for her. Her use is mostly mobile and the apps she uses on iPad are perfect for her needs. She can bring it on vacations, mobile work meetings, etc. She gets two uses out of one device.
But this wouldn't work for me as a desktop platform for what I need. So I need a Mac. My wife needs an iPad. We are both happy.
I agre somewhat. Graphical designers tend to go for cool, rather than usable. An award is more important tahn an actually usable product.
Human Factors / interface experts yes, power users no. Power users tend to want too many features at their fingertips at the price of a simple, understandable interface. Given most users aren't power usrrs taht's who to design for.
I get that, but Apple has often based decisions on what they feel gives the best experience in their viewpoint.
Yea, people jump to conclusions and tehn rant about what didn't happen.
