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If they can get some kind of wireless energy going, eventually this will be contacts or optical implants... and it will be like removing the giganto notch & island from our faces.

In all scenarios of "make these smaller" and "until these look like regular glasses...", this power issue will be the key constraint. Yes, there are already some VR glasses that look like glasses/sunglasses but their featureset vs. Vpro will significantly differ. Else, trying to fit some battery into the "regular glasses" rims or stems seems like it would be very little battery.
 
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Wait, Vision Pro is going to use WOLED panels? That's a huge downgrade over the previously rumored Micro OLED panels which were supposed to account for a large portion of the cost of the device.
 
All my life, ever since I started reading about stuff, there has been an industry that sells rumors, an industry that gets away with it because they are not held accountable.

Anyone who works in R&D knows about scientific and engineering developments that the masses do not know. All it takes is for a writer to grab some acronym or some idea, that system designers and engineers all know will likely come to market some day, an assert that company A is going to come out with product B that uses said idea/acronym. Real soon now.
 
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The next Vision Pro may be a few years away. Apple will be trying to release a cheaper headset. Expecting to see a much cheaper headset before the Vision Pro 2 is released.
 
I will get the AVP at day one in my area - probably not before May or June 2024 - but there will be other toys like the new Sony GM 300 f/2.8 before that to bridge the gap.

Compared to the new lens ( also on order ) the new AVP is only half the price. So it's all relative.

After all I go to work to do such interesting endeavors 🤣

What do you shoot?
 
That settles it. I should just wait for the update to the product not even released yet.

perhaps it would be even more prudent to wait for the update to the update to the product not even released yet
 
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well - I am exactly in that situation but imagine waiting another three years until you'll get something better!

I am still thrilled by the idea of the AVP and I am first in line in Europe to get one - probably later in 2024 - but the same will probably apply for 2027 - potentially end of 2027.

A lot can happen and since we're living in risky times it might not even be possible ( for me ) to spend that amount of money in 2027.

I have learned in my life that the time is alway now and I stopped searching for reasons or foolish ideas to avoid things. In case I want something I get it now in case I am willing to use it.

Just got a multitude of investment for new high end speakers that excel this investment by 20x only for speakers.

So it's probably a question of your monetary situation in life.

I will get the AVP at day one in my area - probably not before May or June 2024 - but there will be other toys like the new Sony GM 300 f/2.8 before that to bridge the gap.

Compared to the new lens ( also on order ) the new AVP is only half the price. So it's all relative.

After all I go to work to do such interesting endeavors 🤣
Yeah, life is too short to be waiting for maybe something better. Do it now, enjoy life.
 
perhaps it would be even more prudent to wait for the update to the update to the product not even released yet
My American desire to copiously consume and my techie desire to have The Best are in mortal conflict rn.
 
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As the article says, apparently Version 2 is 3 full years out so it becomes a question of what "quick" means.

Furthermore, if how much we pay for something drives how long we are likely to keep using it, then this purchase will likely be used for about as long as current MBpro 16" sold for $3499 in the store right now...

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I'm seemingly odd man out in this crowd where I lean pretty POSITIVE on this product. If that sense doesn't get changed when I get to try one myself in store such that I then purchase THIS one, I probably WILL use it for the next 4-6 years before replacing it with what may be version 3 or 4 in 2028-30.

Is it a toy? Is it a useful tool? To be determined. My imagination has it delivering an any-size MB screen anywhere I happen to travel. That appears to be very likely based upon the WWDC demo showing it doing exactly that... AND that much cheaper ones can do that at their much poorer resolutions. If that, I see it as a super-sized "lid" of a MB that may equate to up to half of a $3499 price now forever locked to a 16" size. For double the price of a MB lid to get any size of screen on demand doesn't seem expensive or "toy" to me.

But to each his own. Most seem to perceive that this is only an Apple Quest, able to play a few games and that's about it. If that's all it is, Quest (at much lower cost) for the win. But I suspect it is much more than only that... and most of us should harbor that same suspicion.
a laptop is a tried and tested tool though. Its form is mature and doesn't change much. Ya generally can use them til they crap out or don't perform your work up to speed anymore. these headsets are a new field with drastic changes from model to model. The early adopters of Vision Pro will be guinea pigs to find out what works and what doesn't on real work users. and they'll quickly apply this feedback to newer cheaper devices which will then launch and the early adopters will be upset. I mean I bought quest 2 last year and wish I had a 3 but a these price points I could make the that happen cus it is just a toy still. Right now I pay over 4 grand for my Mac, and over 4 grand for my camera. both of which usually last me about 7 years... the Vision Pro will inevitably be over 4 grand... it definitely will be long in the tooth in 7 years at the rate this tech is going to evolve. I really hope they at least get the m3 with ray tracing in it to start. Truly immersive 3d environments natively on it will be incredible.... as far as professional work goes it still remains to be seem what it's like to work on a virtual display. the true resolution won't touch my 5k studio display for Fine detail work purposes but it will be a hell of a lot better than a quest which quickly gives eyestrain using a browser.
 
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What is the basis for your prognostication? Without a reason, the statement is irrelevant and meaningless.
It's my opinion having seen the VR/AR market to date. Take it or leave I don't care. What is the reason for your reply? You think your opinion actually matters but it doesn't. No need to reply to this you're irrelevant.
 
It was a watershed moment in personal computing history.

Jury's still out on that I'd say. Remains to be seen if the rest of the industry migrates to ARM. If the rest of the industry remains on X86 I'm less convinced.
 
How much of a brighter display do you really need in something with custom fit light seals that sits directly on your face blasting radiation straight into your eyes from an inch away?
 
I know I'll get flack for this...but strap-on Viewmaster googles says Apple has jumped the shark. Announcing a second generation for this before the first is in retail is [Apple] lunacy. What used to work doesn't anymore. Where is the innovation going to come from?
 
There won't be a Vision Pro 2 because this one will tank.
I can already tell this thing is going to sell out quickly. They’re only making ~400k units for launch and there are tons of tech enthusiasts with money. Just look at the posts in this and other online forums…

The only thing stopping me from wanting to try one is I know I will never feel like strapping a big bulky device to my face. Just like I never ended up using my bulky AirPod Max headphones very much, despite superior sound quality.
 
If they can get some kind of wireless energy going, eventually this will be contacts or optical implants... and it will be like removing the giganto notch & island from our faces.

In all scenarios of "make these smaller" and "until these look like regular glasses...", this power issue will be the key constraint. Yes, there are already some VR glasses that look like glasses/sunglasses but their featureset vs. Vpro will likely significantly differ. Else, trying to fit some battery into the "regularly glasses" rims or stems seems like it would be very little battery.

Good look with that one.

Just looking at my iPhone now it is both bigger and heavier than the early models, and the battery still lasts a day.

I keep seeing there will be magical solutions that inevitably come about to power these devices that will be thin as glasses or contact lenses. It’s complete fantasy.
 
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Then the 3G came out with all the features everyone wanted from the outset like MMS, 3G networking, and GPS.

(MMS didn't happen until 3.0.)

It's kinda funny how some were complaining that 1.x and 2.x lacked MMS, given how little it amounted to not many years later. Like, who used MMS by the time the iPhone 5 had come out?
 
(MMS didn't happen until 3.0.)

It's kinda funny how some were complaining that 1.x and 2.x lacked MMS, given how little it amounted to not many years later. Like, who used MMS by the time the iPhone 5 had come out?

MMS was a huge deal in 2007-2009 when not everyone had smart phones and data plans. You could send receive mms on a feature phone.
 
Imagine you spend $3,499 and one year later the next model ist brighter, lighter and faster. Of course that happens with many products, but it is always frustrating. That's why I usually do not buy the first model.

Math doesnt seem to be your thing. Let’s try history. Dec 2020 Apple release the first AirPods Max. People are the crying about the price. Macrumors is there talking about version 2 and a cheaper version being developed. People say they are going to wait. Three years later, they’re still waiting and the only current rumor is we might see some new color choices and usb c instead of lightening. Don’t get me wrong, I think AirPods Max could be improved but I don’t regret at all the three years of entertainment and use I’ve gotten from mine. They are fantastic. That’s why I always buy the first model. It’s only money, I only have so much time. Enjoy today. Don’t sweat the small stuff.
 
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