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The selling point of the iMac DV was that it could be used to edit digital (home) video. It came with iMovie and Firewire ports (which could be used to connect DV cameras).

That’s what the DV stood for - digital video.

So pretty much *not* mainly a consumption device, but a creative content production device.
Sure, but that’s not how the majority of people used it.
You can also edit video on the iPad and Apple will tell you all day to do it, but most iPads are glorified Netflix machines.
Not saying that no one uses them for that, but let’s face it, the vast majority of people use technology for scrolling, and watching, and scrolling, and watching.
That went for the iMac, it goes for the iPad, and it certainly going to be the way here although if regular people are going to use it is still an open question.
 
I am wondering if you could take off the over head strap and put it on the standard strap? There seem to be a button that you might be able to take it off.

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Sure, but that’s not how the majority of people used it.

Prove it.

You can also edit video on the iPad and Apple will tell you all day to do it, but most iPads are glorified Netflix machines.

They are? Prove it.

Not saying that no one uses them for that, but let’s face it, the vast majority of people use technology for scrolling, and watching, and scrolling, and watching.

Perhaps, but you’re ignoring the context of the DV. It came out when there was no easy consumer platform for editing and saving video.

That went for the iMac, it goes for the iPad, and it certainly going to be the way here although if regular people are going to use it is still an open question.

Huh?

Clearly “regular people” are not going to use the Vision at all since Apple is effectively restricting production of the device to absurdly low levels. The only people who will get one are the rabid faithful.
 
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Sounds like a quality device that maybe isn’t quite as big of a leap forward as I hoped it would be compared to the existing products in the market.
 
From Engadget:

“But 15 minutes into my experience, I started to feel weighed down by the device, and five more minutes later, I was in pain.”

I don’t think anyone’s quite ready for how hard this is going to bomb.
The stock strap that comes with the Quest is awful too. Once you get a strap that goes over the head it’s comfortable. At least Apple includes it in the box, unlike Meta
 
This could do everything perfectly and y’all would still find something to complain about… and you haven’t even tried it. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it. There… Saved you a bunch of complaining.
 
The pass-thru clarity is almost real world quality. What if in the near future you can hold your iPhone and a keyboard pops up that allows you to type on it?
MKBHD said he could see his iPhone’s screen perfectly through the headset, and was even taking notes while wearing it.
Also, this is a feature that exists for the Apple TV and the watch.
So I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a visionOS 1.1 or 2.0 addition.
 
From Engadget:

“But 15 minutes into my experience, I started to feel weighed down by the device, and five more minutes later, I was in pain.”

I don’t think anyone’s quite ready for how hard this is going to bomb.

In all fairness all current VR headsets are uncomfortable and painful to some after a period of time. Besides being isolating from my family, the main reason I got rid of my Quest 2 was because of how uncomfortable it was to wear. I realized I was much lazier than I thought and preferred to just sit in front of a computer monitor and keyboard. But for $3500 this thing better massage my feet while I'm wearing it instead of causing headaches.
 
Yeah, the real write-off is the stock strap. Kind of damning honestly that they had to waffle back and forth on two strap designs - one that looks great in promo and one that works better for actual comfort.

I really hope this thing takes off but if I had to bet, Apple has got to be very disappointed in how today went. The main headline out of the day is that it's uncomfortable, and their Face ID scan-to-fit seems to have all but failed to correctly match users with the proper fit.
I see them somewhat like Apple Watch bands - there’s not one perfect one, but it depends on the person and the scenario. The Solo Knit looks like it would be good for shorter sessions when you don’t want to mess up your hair. Some people also wear head coverings all the time and wouldn’t want that to get squished by the Dual Loop top strap. I’m glad they’re including both in the box.
 
MKBHD said he could see his iPhone’s screen perfectly through the headset, and was even taking notes while wearing it.
Also, this is a feature that exists for the Apple TV and the watch.
So I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a visionOS 1.1 or 2.0 addition.
Exactly. Not quite sure what the hell kind of experience people are expecting when trying to use a keyboard that doesn’t exist. Whine, whine, whine
 
i no desire for this to not be successful. I'm sure 100s of very smart people have been working really hard to bring this to market.

I just don't think the world is ready to use something like this in their homes or businesses. (maybe one day in the future)

Until i can become something as easy to put on and take off as a pair of glasses..

Hope I'm wrong...
I just don't think it solves or enhances anything we do in the workplace, no matter how many cases of air-editing or air-designing they can come up with.

As a lifestyle device, for consuming media, light gaming, for everything we do with iPads tho, sure why not.
 
Nice, I really want one to try it myself.

If I live in canada, could I still preorder and go pick it up in NYC store at launch?
 
It isn’t a game of absolutes. No one is claiming it has to be perfect. The issue with Vision Pro is the myriad barriers to adoption it presents combined with the fact that it appears to suffer from most of the same niggling issues that other VR systems suffer from. Meanwhile, Apple has failed to present us with a compelling use case and isn’t even confident enough in the appearance of the device to show any of their executive team actually wearing one.

Of course no first series product is going to be the ultimate expression of that idea. But it darn well better point a BIG red arrow towards that idea or it will fall by the wayside with countless other well intentioned but poorly executed devices.
Personally I think they’ve shown plenty of compelling use cases.
1) Utilize an effectively infinite number of floating displays, running multiple full-sized iOS and MacOS apps/games which are endlessly resizable and repositionable, in any room or while traveling.

2) Set up a standing/walking workspace that's not about rising desks or treadmills, but simply utilizing your whole space

3) View 3D assets (design prototypes, architecture, products, video game characters) in your space

4) Watch 180 Immersive Videos and 3D films in a virtual cinema, without 3D glasses that reduce clarity and brightness

5) Enjoy your photo library with 6-foot tall photos, wraparound panoramas, or 3D spatial home videos

6) Listen to Spatial Audio without headphones or earbuds

7) Replace your physical environment with a photorealistic nature environment to increase calm and focus

8) Rehearse a presentation in a virtual conference room or auditorium

9) Interact with your digital content without using controllers or physical input, e.g. while your hands are dirty cooking or doing repairs

10) Capture first-person, hands-free spatial video

11) View video conferencing participants life-size, with spatially-separated audio that makes it easier to parse crosstalk

12) Collaborate remotely, with participants' face and hands being present 3D in each other's spaces and thus able to gesticulate and reference digital content like you're physically together with a whiteboard

13) Adjust the lighting in your room, e.g. darken to focus on an image or presentation deck, or add more sunlight to improve your mood.

14) For the handicapped or others with mobility issues, control a computer with just your eyes
 
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