I think Apple was better off waiting a few years to make a blockbuster, TRUE game changing device like how the original iPhone or MacBook Air was. The AVP just seems like something created just to say they have a new item in their catalogue and is still quite unpolished. -shrugs-
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Vision Pro Reviews: Surprising Battery Life, 'Weird' Personas, and More
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The Verge review said it was limited to a single 2460x1440 Mac display. Which, being less than my Mac's native display, would remove most of my reason for wanting the AVP. I can only hope that Spoonauer is right and Patel is wrong. (or that a software update will soon support multiple 4K displays from multiple Macs)
Failing that, if they can support the Mac Terminal app on VisonOS, multiple 4K ssh sessions might still make it worthwhile for me, especially if I can also have a few Safari windows open to documentation pages at the same time.
Reading between the lines of some of the reviews, I'm not expecting the eye tracking to be precise enough to put a cursor between two letters while editing, which seems a shame, but at least the trackpad on the Mac should still work normally. Hopefully, they can eventually develop a workable gesture based editing system. Maybe with ASL shortcuts.
Unfortunately, I have yet to see a review that says what the optical distance of the images are so I can get a prescription for that distance. I should be able to ask for a prescription with no prism, and it looks like if I can move my pupils together during the setup scan where it sets its interpupillary distance, that might get the effect of mild horizontal prism from a sphere prescription.
If you've ever worked in software, especially at a big company, you wouldn't be surprised by this. Sometimes you have to get compromising photos of product management people before you can get them to agree to prioritizing bug fixes above new features.
I don't know how Apple organizes their software development internally because I haven't worked at an Apple company in 30 years. But I wouldn't be surprised if it the software organizations are so byzantine, and the individual groups so small and overworked that no one does what we used to do back in the "good" old days -- stay late and work weekends to fix bugs because we cared about the products that much.
I see what you mean. I agree and disagree. To me it does look very advanced and beyond what other companies are doing. Those digital eyes are a definite Apple touch, although their implementation sounds like a possible miss, we shall see. What concerns me is the price. That’s a very steep tag and for wanting an entire new technological lineage to start and grow that entry point makes popularity all the more difficult. It makes Apple seem mixed-messagy idk…
My mouth dropped when I saw Justine demo the keynote app. I think it sets the bar as to what a Vision Pro app can be capable of, but it would also involve a complete rethink of the app’s UI (most developers probably won’t bother). It could also explain why the other iWorks apps are not available (Apple probably needs a bit more time to redesign them).
I don’t expect this to come to PowerPoint either (not sure if keynote is using private APIs not available to other apps). But damn, can you imagine if Vision Pro owners are able to experience this for the next WWDC event?
I don’t expect this to come to PowerPoint either (not sure if keynote is using private APIs not available to other apps). But damn, can you imagine if Vision Pro owners are able to experience this for the next WWDC event?
Why would you want multiple virtual monitors? Wouldn't one big one with more pixels and no gaps always be better?
3840 x 2160 pixels is a 4k display. Everything I've heard says it will support a single 4k display. 2560x1440 is the default resolution for the old Thunderbolt displays. My guess is Patel tested on a system that didn't have a 4k display attached and then assumed that the limitation of his display was a limitation of the AVP. I wouldn't expect a non-4k display to magically become a 4k display merely because AVP picked up the video feed.
As for multiple displays, that would be problematic as the one-display limitation is due to the bandwidth of communication between the Mac and the AVP.
The reviews make me even less interested than I was before. Seems like a gimmick you'll get bored of after 1-2 weeks.
this thing looks half-baked. I own Apple everything. This is one Apple product I not only plan to skip, but I actively dislike it. It looks stupid and pointless.
apple gonna use the current design for a few years, even in the "cheaper" model, they can't remove the bands, maybe the battery and keep the cable and power brick and of course that unecessary external OLED,
Why does it even need a front screen and glass? Those are pointless and meaningless features that they need to remove.
Couldn't agree more on the eyesight. What a waste of tech and money. I wish I could remove that option and get the money back for the cost difference. I could give a rats ass if people think "I'm there in the room" or not. Also, a few people look like Picasso paintings because their eyes don't match up with the natural position on their face. Great, I have a SJP horse face when I use the Vision Pro.
If you are doing development, more displays is better. A single 4k monitor cannot display at readable font sizes all the windows you want open and visible. I've got 5 display surrounding me right now: one is for documentation, two are for source code windows from Xcode, another for emulators and performance monitoring, and the fifth one for any other random thing I want on screen. Being able to pull up multiple documentation pages in safari windows natively on the AVP will obviate the need for one of those displays. But the other four will be running programs on the Mac and require virtual displays to view unless Apple develops an X-Windows-like windowing feature that works across their walled-garden devices.
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Nilay had a brilliant review over at The Verge, where he did a “call” with MKBHD and Joanna Stern and flat out called it awkward. He also made a big deal about how the headset needs to see the users hands at all times in order to function. Lastly, he mentioned how even Disney was DRMing their app so if one tried to record their screen… it literally throws up a black square, despite the fact any recording of Disney content would be absolutely pointless without the $3500 headset.
In essence, I interpreted his review as the Vision Pro being the best headset in its class by a long mile, but with massive tradeoffs and a steep price.
In essence, I interpreted his review as the Vision Pro being the best headset in its class by a long mile, but with massive tradeoffs and a steep price.
Why is everyone ripping on the personas? How else can you be represented in a FaceTime call without a camera facing you? Even if there was a camera facing you, you still have this thing strapped to your face. What are we expecting here?
Shouldn't marketing materials set realistic expectations?..
I agree. I think this might not be an actual “flop”, mainly because Apple has enough fans to make even a “flop” look respectable to other companies.
So what is it? Initially I thought it might sell as well as an Apple TV, relatively speaking. Now I think it might be closer to a HomePod. Worst case scenario is that it’s an iPod Hi-Fi or a G4 Cube.
the cameras array creates the persona, you need that thing cause theres no front camera for facetime, zoom, etc, i totally agree, remove the eyesight display and drop 1000 o more dlls :b
That glass and screen and cameras to show your “eyes” all costs $$$$. Remove all that tech and it’s certainly at the $2500-$2700 range at least.
Looks great! I’m fine being a beta tester. I believe we will get VisionOS 2.0 this fall, though…it will be announced alongside iOS 18, with a focus on fitness and customization. 
So to sum up, wait until second or third gen