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I predict the unit will actually ship with the M3. But since they haven't announced that chip officially, they couldn't say it yet.
I wouldn't hold my breath. They gotta plan for future generations of the device. I'm quite sure they will sell the first gen with the hardware they advertised.
 
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It's probably just a dev thing, but if they allow you to use this thing like a monitor for other things (PS5, Switch, PC) the value proposition changes a lot for me.
They didn’t do that with the iPad, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. For PC, there will likely be remote-desktop applications like for the iPad, but that’s not usable for graphics-intensive gaming.
 
Does anyone else think that Apple is using Extra Terrestrial / Alien Technology in its products like the Apple Vision Pro? Does Apple have one of the crashed space ships in its basement whose technology they will use to miniturize the Apple Vision Pro? 🤔 I bet they are using it for the Apple Car too?
 
I simply don't understand all this push to make it the kind of device you walk around with, which would necessitate a need for a cellular connection. Apple doesn't sell a Macbook with a cellular option, and I think that's most likely how this will be perceived.
I don’t think they will support cellular anytime soon because the use cases are too niche (for a product that is already arguably niche) and because tethering exists. However, when used in a train or in the back seat of a car, cellular would be useful.
 
Maybe. But given that this is probably 9 months out, and given rumors that the M3 will be announced nearing the end of this year...I think Apple just may take the "under promise and over deliver" tact here.

Then why would Apple tell developers it comes M2? Developers will optimize for M2. Even if Apple put in M3, the performance won't be used. It makes zero sense.

Gen 2 Vision Pro is expected by 2025 per Kuo and Gurman. Work started on Gen 2 back in 2021. The hardware for this Vision Pro is already done.
 
I don’t think they will support cellular anytime soon because the use cases are too niche (for a product that is already arguably niche) and because tethering exists. However, when used in a train or in the back seat of a car, cellular would be useful.

Instead of cellular in the headset can't you just use the hotspot on your iPhone that already uses cellular?
 
Maybe. But given that this is probably 9 months out, and given rumors that the M3 will be announced nearing the end of this year...I think Apple just may take the "under promise and over deliver" tact here.
One reason not to do it is supply chain capacity. They can‘t just put it in all new devices because the new 3 nm process won’t have unlimited capacity, and also because it could run into unexpected issues since it is a new process. It would be unwise to add more risks to the already challenging production process for the headset. Better use proven tech and proven supply as much as possible.
 
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Does anyone else think that Apple is using Extra Terrestrial / Alien Technology in its products like the Apple Vision Pro? Does Apple have one of the crashed space ships in its basement whose technology they will use to miniturize the Apple Vision Pro? 🤔 I bet they are using it for the Apple Car too?
It’s likely that the Vision Pro will usher in the attack of the body snatchers.
 
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I simply don't understand all this push to make it the kind of device you walk around with, which would necessitate a need for a cellular connection. Apple doesn't sell a Macbook with a cellular option, and I think that's most likely how this will be perceived.

Mac is a productivity device first. Vision Pro is a media consumption device first.

Most people aren't doing productivity far away from Wi-Fi. Or they simply connect to a USB-C dock or monitor with Ethernet.
 
the Apple Watch has no physical cable data transfer, and inductive charging was excluded from the regulation
Yes, but you were saying that you think the EU has mandated (and made law) that ANY consumer electronic (which would include the Apple Watch) must have USB-C power and data capability, and that is false.
 
Even though the Apple Vision has M2, which is more powerful than M1, it still has to use a big portion of its computing power to create the virtual environment. The amount of computing power remaining for apps, at this point, is much lower even compared to any M1 Mac.
And that's why Apple hasn't shown off Pro apps for the device yet. It's probably gonna take another couple of years for that.
For now, Apple Vision will only be able to run pro apps by virtualizing the Mac's screen, hence letting the Mac handle the pro app's power consumption.

The M2 won't be dealing with any of the virtual environments when it is in "Desktop Mode" giving you just a M2 Mac. I dunno.. seems doable to me if they wanted to... and a really nifty setup. I'd still be happy to hook up my Mac and have multiple virtual screens. The key is multiple though. A single screen cripples the workflow... at least mine.
 
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Yes, but you were saying that you think the EU has mandated (and made law) that ANY consumer electronic (which would include the Apple Watch) must have USB-C power and data capability, and that is false.
Can you point out the filing or data that shows that?
 
See, that's where I think you and many others have completely missed the point. Vision PRO as presented by Apple IS a productivity device. It's a general use computer with an entirely new way to organize and streamline your workflow. That's who I'll use it. I'm skipping my next lap top upgrade to buy this. Will I try Beat Saber when it comes out for Vision Pro? Sure! But mainly I'll be sitting in my home office with the device plugged in. Just as I'm sitting here now on my Macbook Air, in my home office, with my laptop plugged in.

Go back and watch the Keynote. It was about "spacial computing" in Apple's presentation.

And what productivity apps did you see demonstrated by Apple?

The biggest announcement was a Disney partnership.
 
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Based on the 3D model here, there is a connector at the each end (1 & 2) of the strap. The power pack connects to 3, so I guess the USB-C adapter somehow magnetically connects to 4?
 

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Developers will be able to adapt to the M3 in fairly short order. They didn't mention it because the M3 hasn't been officially announced yet. And Dev units will come with the M2.

So why wouldn't Apple say: "Next Gen Apple Silicon" to give devs headroom?

When Apple says M2, it's coming with M2.
 
I don't think we saw a large portion of what this product will do. I use Apple Pages to write. Do you doubt that pages, numbers, keynote, etc won't work? I'm certain they will. It was a pre-production device still under final development.
Really the only prominent ones were Email and FreeForm. The reality is that its still a work in progress. They needed to announce it get it in the hands of developers to continue to shape it to be the device it will become next year.
 
I don't think we saw a large portion of what this product will do. I use Apple Pages to write. Do you doubt that pages, numbers, keynote, etc won't work? I'm certain they will. It was a pre-production device still under final development.

Nobody is doubting that Pages will work. But it's clear nobody is choosing to do word processing, spreadsheets, or photo editing on Vision Pro. Nobody's fingers are as precise as a mouse.

First impressions are everything and the way that Apple has presented, it's a media consumption device first.
 
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Can you point out the filing or data that shows that?
See the text of the directive here, in particular part I of the annex. You’ll see that this is exclusively about devices that support wired charging, and only mandates USB for charging (not data), for an explictly enumerated list of device classes. Note that article 2 specifies that laptops are only affected starting end of April 2026, whereas the other 12 device categories are affected from the end of 2024.
 
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