Vision Pro With Mystery USB-C Adapter Spotted in WWDC Video

[JPack]

I'll pair it with a bluetooth keyboard. Easy.

Why do you think Apple didn't demo it that way? Or have testers use a keyboard in the demo area?

Being tethered to a heavy headset with a 2 hour battery life is pointless if you can simply buy a 49-inch monitor with a Mac. This is clearly not for productivity.

 

[maxfromdenmark]

Just swipe the pic in iPhone editor and connector is on the left side. Mystery solved. You are welcome.

 

[Graphikos]

Nobody is doubting that Pages will work. But it's clear nobody is choosing to do word processing, spreadsheets, or photo editing on Vision Pro. Nobody's fingers are as precise as a mouse.

First impressions are everything and the way that Apple has presented, it's a media consumption device first.

As "good" as the passthrough is... you should still be able to use a keyboard and mouse (in fact they demo it). Think of this as just replacing your monitor(s). I'm really hoping the headset is good enough to be a mobile workstation where all I need is a keyboard, mouse, and headset, and able to be productive in a hotel room, RV, airplane, etc.

I do think that it will might be crippled by the iOS approach to visionOS. Though it totally makes sense. iOS touchable apps translate much better to VR vs mouse-driven apps. I've never attempted to be all that productive on an iPad, though, people do it.

 

[Graphikos]

Why do you think Apple didn't demo it that way? Or have testers use a keyboard in the demo area?

Being tethered to a heavy headset with a 2 hour battery life is pointless if you can simply buy a 49-inch monitor with a Mac. This is clearly not for productivity.

Who knows why they didn't physically demo it.. but it was mentioned in the keynote. They even mention a "spreadsheet in Numbers".

 

[JPack]

As "good" as the passthrough is... you should still be able to use a keyboard and mouse (in fact they demo it). Think of this as just replacing your monitor(s). I'm really hoping the headset is good enough to be a mobile workstation where all I need is a keyboard, mouse, and headset, and able to be productive in a hotel room, RV, airplane, etc.

I do think that it will might be crippled by the iOS approach to visionOS. Though it totally makes sense. iOS touchable apps translate much better to VR vs mouse-driven apps. I've never attempted to be all that productive on an iPad, though, people do it.

Productivity is not just the hardware, but the software. You can see from the demos they took the simplicity of the iOS interface and not MacOS. Will it replace your iPad, probably. But not the Mac.

 

[JPack]

Who knows why they didn't physically demo it.. but it was mentioned in the keynote.

Yes, for a fraction of a second in the video, they show a physical keyboard and mouse.

Everything Apple does is deliberate and carefully choreographed. This launch wasn't some rushed event where they had to beat Meta or Sony. It's more than obvious how Apple intends for most people to interact with Vision Pro.

 

[Graphikos]

Productivity is not just the hardware, but the software. You can see from the demos they took the simplicity of the iOS interface and not MacOS. Will it replace your iPad, probably. But not the Mac.

While I agree it might be difficult to make VR more productive than consumptive (is that a word? lol), I do think that is Apple's goal with the Vision Pro. Time will tell if they pull it off.

 

[Isentropic]

Do people not have real jobs?

 

[JPack]

What part of "pre production device" still 9 months out don't you get? I feel like at this point you have some personal agenda against the device. And no, this is not the same things as a 49 inch monitor. Look, you don't like it. Fine. But you're not saying anything that fundamentally challenges the device.

LOL, because I disagree with your wild M3 prediction and the fact it was demoed largely as a non-productivity device, I must have "some personal agenda."

 

[Graphikos]

My wife recently decided to make an iPad pro with a magic keyboard her primary computer. She's just way more familiar with IOS than Mac OS. And it's totally productive for her.

I don't doubt that at all. My wife uses her iPhone for everything. She rarely gets on a computer.

 

[lazyrighteye]

Interesting. With that proprietary power connector on the headset, I've been wondering if there would be some dongle (and slew of cables) that went proprietary connector to USB-C.

Related... Couldn't one simply connect an external battery to the USB port of the VP external battery when longer time "away from power" is required? While not ideal (multiple rechargeable batteries connected), theoretically doable, right?

 

[JPack]

No, because you're straining to make up criticisms, like "then why didn't they show that!" even to the point of talking about the most basic of things like a bluetooth keyboard. OF COURSE they'll have bluetooth connectivity. But you trying to elevate such simple things to the status of criticism of the device is just too much.

There's no doubt it'll work with a Bluetooth KB. The point is, does Apple encourage you to use it that way?

Yes, VP can tethered to an AC outlet, but clearly Apple doesn't want it to be used that way.

Yes, iPad can be used with a mouse, but there's a reason why Apple doesn't show it off that way in press releases.

 

[Graphikos]

No, because you're straining to make up criticisms, like "then why didn't they show that!" even to the point of talking about the most basic of things like a bluetooth keyboard. OF COURSE they'll have bluetooth connectivity. But you trying to elevate such simple things to the status of criticism of the device is just too much.

It's true that the majority of what they showed off was consumption-based. But there were also tones of productivity. The world already has plenty of consumption headsets. They didn't show off a single game, which is what just about every other headset is focused on. Some of us are just hoping for a productive future, that's all. We'll all find out together... over time...

 

[GregoriusM]

Why do you think Apple didn't demo it that way? Or have testers use a keyboard in the demo area?

Being tethered to a heavy headset with a 2 hour battery life is pointless if you can simply buy a 49-inch monitor with a Mac. This is clearly not for productivity.

They did show the user using a Bluetooth keyboard in the keynote.

 

[meltman]

Wouldnt be apple without a dongle

 

[Onelifenofear]

Why do you think Apple didn't demo it that way? Or have testers use a keyboard in the demo area?

Being tethered to a heavy headset with a 2 hour battery life is pointless if you can simply buy a 49-inch monitor with a Mac. This is clearly not for productivity.

They did show it with a keyboard and the touchpad ( mouse works too - it’s all in the developer notes )

But can I take my 49” monitor away with me? What about the 3 other virtual monitors I coudl stick up too?

I agree on the battery of course - but when I am doing work I’ll be at a desk.

Here is a use case.
A 3d app like Cinema 40 could have a standard flat interface. But you could have the Model or animotion you ar e working on sitting on the desk and interact with it Directly. zoom in a move points. Paint driectly on the surface. This

or 2d Painting app like procreate with a canvas on the desk and Icons as actual colour charts round you or Paintcans, Airbriushes and pencils etc. Hell you could be holding real mockup static objects like a spray can with a Bluetooth button on the top.

is all viable and the productivity uses are endless.

 

[DaveEcc]

Just swipe the pic in iPhone editor and connector is on the left side. Mystery solved. You are welcome.

Except now the keyboard makes no sense.

 

[Marshall73]

Hopefully that will allow most people with a 3rd party battery to use the headset but who's holding their breath?

You can just connect a 3rd party battery to the battery pack usb c port.

 

[kfireven]

It's probably just a dev thing, but if they allow you to use this thing like a monitor for other things (PS5, Switch, PC) the value proposition changes a lot for me.

3rd party apps..

 

[Marshall73]

Why do you think Apple didn't demo it that way? Or have testers use a keyboard in the demo area?

Being tethered to a heavy headset with a 2 hour battery life is pointless if you can simply buy a 49-inch monitor with a Mac. This is clearly not for productivity.

1hr 31mins into the keynote, they state/show that you can use your keyboard and trackpad with the vision pro.

 

[MVMNT]

I’m guessing it’s a zero latency pass through to your dev environment (Unity etc.) for live build and test of apps and experiences when they haven’t been packaged.

The ultimate goal is to create latency low enough that this, and everything else can be wirelessly streamed from more powerful hardware over time to fuel even better experiences, like full VR.

See the HiDPI screen sharing that’s being implemented in Sonoma for a steer in that direction.

 

[t0rqx]

ultimate goal is to fill that treasure chest.

 

[matrix07]

Since Vision Pro has no cellular, you probably need to carry iPhone in your other pocket for data anyway.

I don’t think it’s intended to be used while mobile. This one seem to be designed to mainly use - like a Mac - in a home or an office which will definitely has Wi-Fi.

 

[Aston441]

Does this gadget connect to a cell plan, or is that going to be a ((($$$feature$$$))) in the future, like the iWatch. WiFi?

 

[svish]

Looks like for some sort of connection to a Mac for development purposes.