sOuRcE!!!! I don't play the internet source game. It has been reported here multiple times that Vision Pro costs around $1,500 to make. Go look it up yourself if you're not informed. I'm not your google bot.
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Vivo's $1,400 Apple Vision Pro Clone Launches Across China
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How so? It's not like they used Apple-created components.
I suspect most people here have never developed a hardware-based tech product.
There are few hundred thousand people that buy everything. They aren't a market, or a barometer of anything. What matters is whether any of them are still using it, and whether sales grow over time. Given that many stores don't even offer demo appointments anymore, you can figure that out for yourself.
Spoiler: Apple could have made it lighter. They chose not to for their initial Vision "Pro", prioritising build quality and materials to establish their entry into the segment on the premium end. They will in due course release a lighter pro model, and a lower powered, maybe plastic and possibly lighter in weight non-pro model when they have their pro entry down.
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Every company is special, because there is no one like them, literally. So Apple was special then as it is now.
Perhaps you wanna say that you don't like it's products, but that's another story.
I haven’t either, but there’s a lot more involvement than just the actual manufacturing. That’s what people don’t realize. Once you have the actual device ready to manufacture, you’re almost there. I was watching a video with this small entrepreneur where he would design and create products. The last step he would send the plans to the manufacturing company in China so they can produce the product. He said in a few months that same company would make counterfeit products to sell on Amazon under some random name. This is one reason we need to stop outsourcing all our manufacturing to China. They don’t abide by our trademarks at all but we have to abide by their trademarks. That kind of relationship doesn’t work.
Edit: fixed grammar error caused by Apple‘s wonderful voice to text
There is no right or wrong, I guess. I mean, they had to start somewhere!
I'm sure they'll get to the point where you won't even realize you're wearing AR glasses. It'll take a dozen years, maybe more, but they'll get there
Chinese smartphone maker Vivo on Thursday unveiled its first mixed reality headset, the "Vivo Vision," and the photocopiers in Dongguan appear to have been working overtime.
The device "launched" as an in-store experience across mainland China today, featuring design elements that clearly ape Apple's Vision Pro. It's got a curved glass front visor, downward-pointing cameras, removable fabric light seals in four sizes, eight foam padding options, a knitted rear strap, and an aluminum external battery pack connected via a braided cable. The Vivo Vision "Explorer Edition" even offers support for 1.5-degree eye tracking and 26 degrees depth of field for gesture-based navigation.
To its credit, Vivo's clone has some competitive specifications. The dual 8K micro-LED displays provide 3,840 × 3,552 pixels per eye – slightly higher than the Vision Pro's resolution – and offers 180-degree panoramic field of view. At 398 grams, it's significantly lighter than Apple's 650-gram device. Vivo also claims its headset is 26 percent smaller than the "industry average."
As for software, the headset runs on OriginOS Vision, Vivo's in-house mixed reality operating system, which is said to offer ultra-low latency of just 13ms. As you'd expect, it supports recording 3D videos, spatial photos, and spatial audio. Users can also immerse themselves in a 120-inch cinema screen.
Pricing is expected at around 10,000 yuan (roughly $1,395), which is well below Apple's Vision Pro $3,499 starting price. Pre-orders are now open for the device, although Vivo has yet to confirm availability details, giving Apple plenty of time to consider its legal options.
Joking aside, this isn't the first Chinese Apple knock-off that we've seen by a long stretch, plus there's no indication that Vivo's headset is coming to international markets beyond China. The Vision Pro has sold poorly anyway, so the impact on Apple's bottom line is likely to be minimal.
Apple is currently working on a next-generation version of the Vision Pro with an M5 chip, based on code discovered by MacRumors. The refreshed Vision Pro isn't expected to feature any design changes or hardware updates aside from the new chip, but it could get a new strap that will make it more comfortable to wear for longer periods of time. The Vision Pro 2 with M5 chip could launch as soon as late 2025.
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Why would it be a turd ? Have you tried it or any other VR headset ? I've tried it and It's technologically superior to every other headset on the market. It's only flaws are the insane price, and the heavier weight compared to something like the Quest 3 ( which I own )
How many people who have responded to this post has an Apple Vision Pro or used one?
Watching all the non vision pro owners downplaying it to make themselves feel better about not being able to afford one.
Bro, it's not like if you come up with an idea, then you're half done.
The hardest part is put it into practice!
It took many years for Apple to perfect the components, the M and R chips, the cameras and sensors, the shape, combine everything via software. This takes an enormous amount of engineering, that can't be done just by looking at the aesthetics of another company's hardware.
You’re absolutely right and that was my point. Apple spent years developing this thing and then some Chinese manufacturer disassembles and reverse engineers it. This is one thing China is really good at.
I’m a non-Vision Pro owner but once the refresh comes out, that’s going to change. I suspect early next year
They are trolling. Apple's software has set the benchmark in this segment. They will offer cheaper models in time and perhaps this will cause a bigger adoption, especially by devs who will need to make content for it. That said, I never want to see myself own such a "goodbye cruel world" product from any company.
When I win the lottery my goal is to head out to the strip club with a vision pro on my face
You clearly have little idea of how it really works. When selling the product, you’ve got to include the R&D costs, which—considering it took more than 16 years to develop—aren’t something you can just ignore.
So yeah, for the components, they obviously pay less than what they sell the device for, but again, you shouldn’t consider just the materials and components alone.
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I would also include years of R&D costs from the many hardware and software engineers and project managers within Apple (including working with Stanford University's AR lab), before manufacturing begins, that need to be recovered.
I think you’re misunderstanding my post. I’m agreeing with you. The price isn’t based on the price of the components. There’s a lot of money spent developing the product that has to be recouped.
Exactly! That's a better spec, in my opinion XDIt's also half the weight
Inaccurate, please fix
Define success?
Overall there is more to a product than speeds and feeds. Curious about the platform, user experience and integration with the community of products people use. Considering it is so Chinese market oriented doubt they will be relevant outside of China.
Oops!
I misquoted!
Yeah man, we're saying the same thing. I don't get it why people don't get it 🤷🏻♂️