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Vivo's $1,400 Apple Vision Pro Clone Launches Across China
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turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
It kind of sounds like the price and value proposition that Apple needed to offer.
"…dual 8K micro-LED displays provide 3,840 × 3,552 pixels per eye…"
Ummm… that is not how 8K works. That's 4K, but with extra pixels vertically. 8K is defined as having approximately 8,000 pixels horizontally. The 8K UHD standard resolution is 7680 × 4320.
Ummm… that is not how 8K works. That's 4K, but with extra pixels vertically. 8K is defined as having approximately 8,000 pixels horizontally. The 8K UHD standard resolution is 7680 × 4320.
votdfak
macrumors 6502a
Mac Fly (film)
macrumors 68040
I’m not a customer is search of anything like that. Personally, I want better products in exiting categories, like a more useful MBA with a good port selection, a good small iPhone, and a large-screen iMac with a practical port selection, ideally with a Pixar lamp/sunflower design. I’ve no need for a watch, glasses or rings. I’m good.
Even as a copy, I’m very curious how good of a copy they were able to pull off for such a complex device. A promo video and some specs doesn’t really inform me about the UX, which is what ultimately matters. Once it’s released, I’m looking forward to people outside of China getting their hands on it (hopefully) and posting comparison reviews.
Le0M
macrumors 65816
The hyperbole goes way over the line with the AVP hate. I use mine every single day for hours at a time. I look forward to using it. It provides me benefits that I cannot get from other devices. I am not tethered to a wall. I do not find it uncomfortable. I have never once been inclined to vomit while wearing it. I am able to be around my family more while using it than not using it.
Just because you don’t agree with my experience does not mean my experience does not exist, nor am I the only one who has it.
GMShadow
macrumors 68030
Vision Pro is fun for serving as a marker of the decline of comment and editorial quality on this site.
MR: "Vision Pro manufacturing is limited to hundreds of thousands of units per year"
Also MR (and commenters): "Vision Pro hasn't sold millions of units, it's been a flop"
MR: "Vision Pro manufacturing is limited to hundreds of thousands of units per year"
Also MR (and commenters): "Vision Pro hasn't sold millions of units, it's been a flop"
racerhomie
macrumors 6502a
Le0M
macrumors 65816
I'd like to ask you: what do you use it for the most?
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
Exactly how I feel when I get told around here that "the world has moved on from small (normal sized) iPhones!" and I need to "get over it".
Doesn't map to my experience or preference for iPhone Mini (or smaller) devices at all!
No what I'm saying is I know what I'm talking about, and it isn't my problem if you don't. My source is knowledge. Go educate yourself, don't ask me to do it for you.
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JOLoughlin
macrumors regular
Consuming media is second to none. I frequently prefer to have multiple video files overlapping, which isn’t possible on iPads/iphones but is very doable on the Vision Pro through third party apps or using the airplay receiver in my iPhone.
Unwinding, being able to put on a meditation app in significantly higher resolution than a Meta product, or kick back in one of the environments for a few minutes is really useful for me personally.
During the evenings, if my wife crashes early I’m able to work or view media from the Vision Pro in close proximity and not blind her with an ipad screen. If everyone is watching something I’m not into I’ll put on something alternate or have multiple screens going so I’m not distracting everybody, but keep my AirPods on transparency mode so I’m still in the moment with everyone.
For all the complaints about it being a solo experience, keeping your head in your phone is equally a solo experience. It’s what you make of it. I don’t have to watch a movie in a media room away from everyone if I want to do my own thing. I’m able to stay in the same room and do my own thing in a way which doesn’t distance myself from everyone but I’m still able to see everything and interact with everyone.
I’m able to use it for all the same things. I use an ipad as a laptop and can just as easily grab my keyboard and do bills or work on the Vision Pro if it’s convenient. It depends on my mood. I use several apps that are immersive and the Vision Pro is what I pick every time. The only time I won’t use it is when eating or drinking.
This is an article about a company (effectively copying) and Apple product, and putting that aside for the moment the people who hate the product the most are losing it because if someone is making money off of a Vision Pro, it means it’s not the terrible product that no one on earth wants to use.
People hated iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, and Vision Pro. Apple has a ton of cash in the bank. Immersive reality and wearables are the way of the future. It’s not going anywhere. It will only improve. There will be new products in the future that they can trash and will. If it makes sense for Apple to make, they’ll make it. If they don’t sell, they’ll stop or try something else. If there’s money to be made on headsets, people will make it, despite the furor.
Zuckerberg better hurry, some other company is going to beat his to being the Android of VR/AR. 🙂
Being able to have one. 🙂 Announcing better specs and a lower price than AVP has been done by multiple companies for over a year now. That’s the easy part. Having them available for people to take home is on another level.
And, this is another device solidifying that having cameras pointing down and tracking hands is better than having to have a separate wrist worn device to use it. By the time Meta gets to market, what they release is going to have to match the feature set of the AVP copycats while trying to beat their price.
Le0M
macrumors 65816
Cool!
Do you find it much faster compared to a mac when dealing with multiple windows when using it for work?
I'm asking because that's what I think the killer use really is, and that's also what I probably would buy it for when time will come.
Le0M
macrumors 65816
Well, it kinda surprises me that it has screens of the same super-high resolution, a battery that lasts as much and so on.
Mac Fly (film)
macrumors 68040
Phablets. Naming it "mini" was a major problem. I've had this conversation with women who had a visceral reaction to not wanting a "mini" iPhone sight unseen, only to cause them surprise when they saw the phone wasn't as small as they had presumed. The only saw it because I own one. Marketing killed the phone. Now with modern battery chemistry and taking the phone up to 5.6" and giving it a narrower bezel, it could be a great option. Just get rid of all the additional marketing terms for iPhone and have two sets of phone: iPhone and iPhone Ultra, in three or four sizes.