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VMware Fusion 7 Launches with Virtualization Support for OS X Yosemite and Windows 8.1
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Have searched VM's site and this thread and there has been no mention of what the policy will be regarding upgrades to 7 if you've recently bought 6.
Anyone know?
Also, curious to know if XP runs on 6/7.
Anyone know?
Also, curious to know if XP runs on 6/7.
I know. But with VMware you have to purchase Windows AND WMware. I still see no reason.
But thx for the answers
Its very simple. VMware allows you you to run windows and osx side by side without restarting and bootcamp doesn't. Not sure why thats so hard to understand.....
My VMWare Fusion V5.x kept bothering me all summer to upgrade to V6.
I said to myself... increase harassment to upgrade can only be a sign that V7 is around the corner
I'll run my V5 as long as I can. VMWare Fusion's annual upgrade is not that much different than an Office 365 subscription
I said to myself... increase harassment to upgrade can only be a sign that V7 is around the corner
I'll run my V5 as long as I can. VMWare Fusion's annual upgrade is not that much different than an Office 365 subscription
With Bootcamp you also need to buy Windows but VMWare, Parallels, and Virtual Box are all great tools if you need to run a program and don't want to boot into Windows. It's also easier to manage a virtual OS since it's just a file and not a partition (e.g. so it's simple to backup or migrate to a new Mac, for example).
It's there plain as day at the bottom of that page:
"Upgrade from Parallels and Save
If you are using Parallels Desktop for Mac, you can upgrade to VMware Fusion 7 and save!
Upgrade Now"
That link then points to this page:
http://store.vmware.com/validateparallels
Windows 8.1 isn't "vastly better" but it is better for gaming (e.g. higher frame rates) and the GUI is cleaned up a bit. The lack of the Start bar is annoying and "Modern Apps" are ridiculous, but if you fix those two things, 8.1 is better in general to 7.
I don't know anyone who truly hates Windows 8.1.
It is mostly an arbitrary change from Windows 7, but still nowhere near as bad as Vista or iOS 7/8.
That's your opinion -- which you're certainly entitled to.
I personally would much rather virtualize Windows on a Mac than virtualize OS X on Windows. All of my work software requires Windows but virtually all of the software I use outside of work is only available on the Mac. I didn't buy into any "hype". I made a decision that works for me and you made a decision that works for you. As long as we're both satisfied with the choice we've made, that's all that really matters.
When running MacOS X + Windows at the same time, you need enough RAM for both. With bootcamp, you only need enough RAM for one at a time.
And it's free.
XP runs fine as a guest on both Fusion 6 and Fusion 7. I upgraded from 6 to 7 this morning and both my XP and Win 7 VMs are working fine in Fusion 7.
Why Virtualization Tops Bootcamp
While it is great to run Windows applications side-by-side Mac apps, the greatest reason for using Fusion to run Windows on Mac is that I can easily backup my entire Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 development environments for security, portability and disaster recovery. Here are some examples:
As a software developer, it can take weeks to install all of the software and get it configured correctly in Windows. If I had to install Windows from scratch including all of my applications and data, it would really hurt. But virtualization of Windows ensures that I can be up and running in minutes on any hardware. Bootcamp is inferior when you look at from that perspective. And performance has never been an issue for me. Windows seems to run better in Fusion on Mac than it does a the host OS on other machines.
While it is great to run Windows applications side-by-side Mac apps, the greatest reason for using Fusion to run Windows on Mac is that I can easily backup my entire Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 development environments for security, portability and disaster recovery. Here are some examples:
- Copy of my VM files weekly for backup. Laptop gets stolen...no problem...just run my backed up VM on another Mac or PC.
- Create a snapshot, then if an install or upgrade goes bad, I can restore and put things back to before.
- Windows gets slow I want to start fresh, just use an original VM of Windows. No installing from scratch.
- Why use Mac OS as host OS? Instant boot from cold or warm.
- Taking a flight trip, then move my VM to my tiny Airbook and now I have my Windows there. Move it back to my Macbook Pro when I return.
- Drive crashes on Mac...just replace and then copy back last week's VM backup. Continue working in Windows with only 1 week or less loss of data. Can run the VM on another Mac or PC while waiting on Mac drive to be replaced.
As a software developer, it can take weeks to install all of the software and get it configured correctly in Windows. If I had to install Windows from scratch including all of my applications and data, it would really hurt. But virtualization of Windows ensures that I can be up and running in minutes on any hardware. Bootcamp is inferior when you look at from that perspective. And performance has never been an issue for me. Windows seems to run better in Fusion on Mac than it does a the host OS on other machines.
Fwiw
I have Windows and Macs.
I've been running CentOS (with and usually without GUI) on the Windows computers using VMware Player which is free and works quite well for what I so, which is basically web development using SSH and SFTP using a bridged network connection.
I liked Windows 7 but use Windows 8.1 and it works very well. I've never really gotten the hate for Windows 8. Seems people seem more fixated on their hate for it than on the product itself.
Yes, Vista was a hot mess, and Microsoft was smart to run away from that as fast as they could, but both Windows 7 and 8 are fine.
Anyhow, if all you really need is to replicate a VPS server or create a development server, look at VMware Player if you have a Windows computer to run it on.
I've even been able to move the VMs to a Mac running Fusion and vice versa, so you are in the VMware ecosystem.
I may upgrade to Fusion 7 (from Fusion 5) if I come across a coupon, but not for $50 clams.
I have Windows and Macs.
I've been running CentOS (with and usually without GUI) on the Windows computers using VMware Player which is free and works quite well for what I so, which is basically web development using SSH and SFTP using a bridged network connection.
I liked Windows 7 but use Windows 8.1 and it works very well. I've never really gotten the hate for Windows 8. Seems people seem more fixated on their hate for it than on the product itself.
Yes, Vista was a hot mess, and Microsoft was smart to run away from that as fast as they could, but both Windows 7 and 8 are fine.
Anyhow, if all you really need is to replicate a VPS server or create a development server, look at VMware Player if you have a Windows computer to run it on.
I've even been able to move the VMs to a Mac running Fusion and vice versa, so you are in the VMware ecosystem.
I may upgrade to Fusion 7 (from Fusion 5) if I come across a coupon, but not for $50 clams.
Depends what your doing - Parallels has been typically faster for 3D Graphics.
I've found Parallels faster for "server" type applications too than VMWare. OTH, VMWare has been faster for some IDEs.
Yes. They have, Windows ME is over 13 years old. Some amount of time has gone by. Progression has been made.
Yeah most likely. Me was a very bad OS even on Wintel machines that I used. Win 2000 was a lot better.
It isn't the end of the discussion. It is the end of purchasing Microsoft products. I will not pay twice for the same install. Nor will I pay for Windows 9.
As long as Windows 7 (which allows two activations per license) is supported, I will run that. When support runs out, I will go through the hassle of shifting the work I currently do in Windows applications to others.
And the kicker is, I run a business and I pay for licenses. If I was to patch the activation, I wouldn't have the problem. Microsoft is punishing legitimate customers on an absurd technicality.
If you want to run OS X with one or two windows programs. It's a pain to have to reboot each time.
I'm a fan of VMware Fusion and have used it since the early days
I currently use it with Win7 and Win8.1 and have used it with Ubuntu as well
Just installed the V7 upgrade and does seem to be faster with performance improvements
I currently use it with Win7 and Win8.1 and have used it with Ubuntu as well
Just installed the V7 upgrade and does seem to be faster with performance improvements
I'm not going to argue the security, and some performance superiority of Win8 over Win7. But the interface of this "superior" OS caused most enterprise IT departments, including mine to pass on it, and reinstall Win7 when it was time to upgrade desktop images. A superior OS is not just about security and performance. It's about usability and user adoption.
MS severely misjudged the market when they released, and then continued to defend Win8. It was DOA, and they were too arrogant to admit it, a byproduct of their "leadership" at the time. They have tried to mitigate this somewhat with Win8.1, without admitting they screwed up.
I, personally, and most IT departments will leapfrog over Win8, and move directly to Win9, because MS will have abandoned forcing the Modern interface on their users, and Win9 will not have the same stigma that MS doomed Win8 to have. The same thing happened with Vista, albeit for somewhat different reasons. Most people stayed with XP until Win7 became available, because Vista was such a fail for the user.
A "technically superior" product that does not resonate with, or capture the imagination of the vast, vast majority of your users is not really superior.