And I am using UTM to run macOS El Capitan on my M1 Max:
That means that it is emulating an Intel CPU.
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VMware Fusion Tech Preview Brings Windows 11 to Apple Silicon Macs
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That means that it is emulating an Intel CPU.
It’s a preview download. I was able to obtain it through Parallels, but if you do a Web search, you’ll find ways to download an ISO.
Ultimately, the end goal should be Apple Silicon emulating a processor like Intel core i7 12900K at full speed and RTX 3060 at full speed to run those native windows applications. It’s unfortunate VMware decides to not go to the emulation route and focus on hypervisor only.
I wish one day apple silicon is powerful enough to run windows with emulation. But for now, windows on ARM with x64 emulation should be fine for some people. Me? I still need to carry two machines around, sadly.
I wish one day apple silicon is powerful enough to run windows with emulation. But for now, windows on ARM with x64 emulation should be fine for some people. Me? I still need to carry two machines around, sadly.
If your only goal with Windows is to just play games, maybe a $300 Xbox Series S with Game Pass can solve your problem, it's much better than being a Parallels slave.
In my case, I need Windows for a lot of other things, so I bought me a Dell Alienware x14.
Funny (and sad!) that Dell charged me only $50 extra to go from 16GB to 32GB of RAM, but Apple charges $400 for that!
And only $50 to go from 512GB to 1TB of SSD!
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I bought the $1999 version with i7-12700H, RTX 3060, 32GB of RAM, 1TB of SSD. I wanted a RTX 3070 Ti but unfortunately for that I would need to buy an Alienware x15, which is much heavier and expensive than the x14.
In my case, I need Windows for a lot of other things, so I bought me a Dell Alienware x14.
Funny (and sad!) that Dell charged me only $50 extra to go from 16GB to 32GB of RAM, but Apple charges $400 for that!
And only $50 to go from 512GB to 1TB of SSD!
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I bought the $1999 version with i7-12700H, RTX 3060, 32GB of RAM, 1TB of SSD. I wanted a RTX 3070 Ti but unfortunately for that I would need to buy an Alienware x15, which is much heavier and expensive than the x14.
My need is for SolidWorks and Autodesk Inventor to function on my M1 Max MacBook Pro at least as well as they did on my 2017 MacBook Pro, which was disappointment in so many other ways.
AMD and Intel are developing new microprocessor architectures that are neither ARM.
You can run Windows x86 apps on Windows 11 ARM. Windows 11 includes a built-in app translator/emulator, just like Rosetta on macOS.
I used to use those VM software to run windows, then I realized why not just buy a few windows computers to throw around instead? They don't expire every year like VM licenses do. Many Engineering software requires Windows and that's unfortunate. Also, general purpose Windows computers are good field, lab and test machines, and they are really cheap.
A bash of its former self?
It is like a nested virtualization. The VM with Windows performance is sloppy and adding another virtual layer would be unbearable. UTM's performance is sloppy as well by the wa.
Before I switched to Apple products, I was a big user of VMWare Workstation Pro, and I've been missing it so much. I hope that VMWare Fusion will get the job done, but I can't rely on a tech preview. I could get Parallels, but that doesn't seem to be very configurable.
Does VMWare Fusion have an API so you can automate VM creation and management?
Does VMWare Fusion have an API so you can automate VM creation and management?
Great to know. Good to see both VMWare and Parallels supporting Windows 11 on Apple Silicon.
VMWare Fusion Player is free for personal use, unlike Parallels that forces you to spend $100 every year.
And they've been battling back and forth for years on performance / features, so they're fairly comparable for the average user.
3D support on Intel Macs is decent most of the time. Assuming VMWare gets ARM 3D acceleration by the time the final is ready, there's no reason anyone should be wasting their money on Parallels licenses.
Haha, VMware are the leading company when it comes to virtualization. Take a look at esxi, vsphere, horizon etc
True but VMware is doing legally as I believe Microsoft was under some contract which prevented VMware from doing it officially until now. Parallels did it in a way that wasn’t officially supported by Microsoft.
See Running Windows 11 on a Mac with Parallels Desktop is great, but some questions remain from October of 2021.
I hope this helps.
I was trying to work out whether this was a new story or pulled from the archive. Seems like VMware are quite late here. I've been running Windows 11 Pro on Parallels since December on an M1 Mac Pro. Parallels offers the Windows 11 download as part of the installation process (unlicensed) so it was completely painless - I then just activated it by using a spare Windows 10 licence from my office 365 account. Recently transferred the machine over to a Mac Studio without issue as the virtual TPM chip is held in iCloud keychain. I use it every day for corporate excel work because I have multiple excel files linked on Sharepoint. This is probably the best use case and it runs perfectly with only a 15 second startup time. It's not going to be anyone's choice for gaming though, so I understand why people have issues with x86 virtualisation.
Anyone got this working with win11?
I have tried but getting stuck on the boot of windows 11 as it seem that I’m missing internet but I don’t.
I’m on Wi-Fi it might not work with the bridging.
I’ll try Ethernet later.
I have tried but getting stuck on the boot of windows 11 as it seem that I’m missing internet but I don’t.
I’m on Wi-Fi it might not work with the bridging.
I’ll try Ethernet later.
yep. Microsoft and Parallels keeping their options open just in case Apple release a touch screen MacAn M1 Mac Pro with “Pen support”, it seems
MS sell Surface tablets that run ARM Windows so I can’t see them suddenly stopping development so I think it’s a pretty safe bet that Windows ARM is here to stay.
I was a big fan of Fusion, it was my go to VM engine when I was running under Intel. I think they have missed the boat though, they made a lot of noise about licensing and not being willing to support Windows VM running on M1 and now all of a sudden they are happy?? Far as I can see, nothing has changed from a licensing point of view. Even so, their refusal to support Windows in Fusion officially was the reason I decided to try Parallels and it’s blown the socks off my experience with Fusion so I won’t be going back.
UTM is the Virtual PC rebirth everyone was waiting for.
Last night I toyed with the Solaris image for fun. I would be interested to see if it can run Irix and Softimage 4.0.
Fine but… M1 macOS has a built-in emulator.
Just let us run x86 virtualization emulated by the system itself. Shouldn’t that be possible?
So, VMware finally has their competitor to Parallels.
To sum up:
To sum up:
- If you want to run ARM version of Windows (both 10 and 11?) you need either Parallels or this VMware's Fusion 22H2 Tech Preview. These Windows versions have an x86 emulator built in, similar to Rosetta 2 on the Mac.
Parallels' version which runs ARM versions of Windows has been around since December 2020.
Would be great to find out the differences.
I have played around with Parallels (I think version 16) to help someone run old Windows games on an M1 iMac, and it works great. So I wonder what VMware has to offer more, as they are 1.5 years later.
- If you want to run x86 based Operating Systems on Mx Mac, you need UTM.
This is similar to the good ol' PPC days where Real PC and Virtual PC could run Windows on a PPC based Mac. But... my word.... those were slow as h***. Luckily Apple SOC processors are infinite faster than the PPC CPUs 😛