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What is better, Fusion 8 or Parallels 11?

Having been a Parallels user since my first Mac, going through version 6, 7, 8 and 9, i took Fusion for a test drive at the beginning of the month. Lets say i won't be buying Parallels again, Fusion seems less intrusive, the coherence mode seems better, can use it on 3 macs and i love the fact my Windows apps pin'd to the dock don't have 2 stupid red lines on it.
 
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In other words, just bug fixes really.
Seems like an annual event, Apple upgrades OS X for free, Parallels and VMware looks to extract upgrade fees to have their products run on the newer OS.
 
It's a fairly small market, it is highly complex software, and this is what software like that costs. They are not giving it away in order to sell you something else.
or, better yet, they're not giving it away, so that Microsoft can make some money.

(and yes, I know Win 10 is free, but what about all of the software that you load on it?)
 
Lol, where? In Africa?
In some European countries like Belgium this is normal. You get a 100GB limit with a standard boardband connection that costs +/- $ 30 a month (2TB = +/- $ 90/m). It is quite fast so you could get over your limit in a few hours...
 
Seems like an annual event, Apple upgrades OS X for free, Parallels and VMware looks to extract upgrade fees to have their products run on the newer OS.

Apple can afford to offer the OS for free since it sells the hardware (and other products)
VMware has to ensure compatibility to all of the changes to OS X and a multitude of other software combinations and configurations

It is offered at a discount, for which I am grateful... because some companies don't even do that much

Would I prefer free upgrades... yep
Will I pay to upgrade... yes, eventually
 
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What is better, Fusion 8 or Parallels 11?
In my experience Parallels has traditionally had a little better speed performance while Fusion has had better stability, and ability to move VM's to other VMware apps such as Workstation.
Parallels you can do some subscription model thing, Fusion releases updates yearly. (I personally prefer to avoid the subscription model)

For my uses I've been a Fusion fan, but my guess is that both are mature enough product lines that you could pick either and would hardly notice the differences in most cases.

Parallels often does a deal where they bundle up with software deals (MacUpdate, etc..)
VMWare Fusion offers some pretty good education discounts if you qualify (free in many cases)

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you can get the 2015 tech preview for free (time limited to December I think) to try it out. (or the full version has 30 day trial period I think)
https://communities.vmware.com/community/vmtn/fusion/vmware-fusion-technology-preview-2015

If you are a Student/Teacher/Faculty (or if you have an organization that might otherwise qualify) often you can get a free copy of VMWare's software through OnTheHub (https://e5.onthehub.com).
 
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Ahhh, the yearly forced upgrade money wagon is here. I am sure Carbon Copy Cloner will be along shortly with the begging bowl too.
 
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Having used both Fusion and Parallels for several versions, I have always stuck to Parallels for Windows and Fusion for Linux etc.

I feel the main area where Fusion trailed Parallels was in graphics performance, up until now only supporting DX9 where Parallels supported DX10.

Now Fusion is on par with Parallels as it supports DX10. I'll be moving over to Fusion because of this, and because Parallels will only allow my upgrade key to activate 1 instance of 11 whereas I could activate 2 instances of 10.
 
Did you do a clean install after upgrading? I'm wondering if that's what's causing my activation problems.
No. Actually my Windows 8.1 installation was originally installed in Boot Camp, then last year when VMware Fusion 7 was released, I used that to convert the Boot Camp installation to a VM. From there, I kept it up-to-date with patches and such, then did the Windows 10 upgrade and it went smoothly, except for the minor issue of the SVGA 3D Adapter Error, that I was able to resolve.
 
What is better, Fusion 8 or Parallels 11?

I've had better luck with Fusion, though Parallels is a great product too. Honestly they are very close. I originally bought Fusion 3 several years ago, but moved to Parallels because at the time I thought it worked better, but I've since switched back. They both offer free trials, you should download them and see what works best for you.
 
Do any of these apps (Parallels, Fusion or Virtual Box) allow you to upgrade an existing installation of Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 using the Microsoft upgrade process? Can anyone confirm from their own experience?

The .VDMK image of Windows 8.1 I've got and boot directly into does not allow that. The installation fails saying that Windows cannot upgraded when installed into image.
You can only upgrade to Windows 10 on the same machine, or VM, or etc.
If you for some reason erase your VM instead of formatting the existing disc you'll forever lose that key - which is generic, by the way.
 
What is better, Fusion 8 or Parallels 11?

I think they pretty much play leapfrog.
VMWare have a somewhat better rep for solidity and support. Parallels tend to lead the initiative on Windows/OS integration, but VMWare usually catch up. Parallels may be better for games (but again, leapfrog!) In the past, Parallels support for Linux was patchy and rapidly outdated, but they've been better later.

You could always use Virtual Box.

Agreed - Parallels and Fusion are slicker, and better at OS X/Windows integration, but if you don't want to pay money its worth trying VirtualBox first.

I'm getting a bit annoyed with VMware and Parallels using the yearly OS X release cycle as an excuse to push very expensive updates witch are marginally better.

You could equally blame Apple for insisting on releasing major OS X upgrades every year. This shouldn't affect well written word processors and spreadsheets much but it is highly liable to break close-to-the-metal applications like Fusion or Parallels, and their programmers like to eat meals and sleep indoors. Their bosses like to drink wine and sleep... in bigger houses. They've already spent the $80 you gave them 2 years ago.

I do remember the days when you got free upgrades or 90% discounts for some software... I also remember paying £250 for the software to start with (and that's before inflation). With certain honourable exceptions, software is a lot cheaper than it used to be.

But hey, it's mostly companies who buy these things with enough cash to burn.

Well, you could use VirtualBox for free, subsidised by the companies that pay Oracle obscene license fees for commercial databases. It doesn't have the Mac-friendly polish of the others, and game perfromance isn't on their priority list but its not bad...

Seems over priced given the cost of the Win 10 and OSX operating systems

Microsoft get a bit of money from virtually every PC sold and a shedload of money from corporate licensing -
plus, once you have Windows, you are a customer for Office, Exchange, SQL Server etc. They're also having a huge problem getting people to upgrade from Windows 7, so cheap/free upgrades are a good thing. The "full" version of Windows 7 (the one you technically needed to legally install on a VM or an existing PC that didn't come with Windows) used to cost an arm and a leg, by the way.

Apple make their money selling hardware: OS X exists to sell Macs, not to sell software.

N.B. even VMWare give away some of their PC virtualization software for personal use, as a loss-leader for their commercial/pro products - might explain their past generosity re. upgrades. Guess Mac customers don't work as loss-leaders for corporate sales. Also, they seem to have a lot more competition in the corporate market these days.
 
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I may be in luck, I recently upgraded to Fusion 7 Pro, not knowing Fusion 8 was around the corner, and now I have a complimentary free upgrade to Fusion 8 Pro in my my VMware account. Looks like I'll be installing this later on when I get home.

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