VMware Launches Fusion 8 and Fusion 8 Pro With Windows 10, OS X El Capitan and Cortana Support

[nikhsub1]

Does anybody know if i'st possible to install windows 7 on VMware (or Parallels) and then upgrade it to windows 10 on a newer mac which doesn't allow bootcamp windows 7 installation?
Got a copy of windows 7 and don't want to pay for windows 10 if I don't have to.

Yes it will work no problem...

I went with Fusion many years ago, I think it was when it first came out. I decided to stick with VMware because it is the industry standard virtualization software. I too hate the yearly tax on it but it is the cost of doing business in my case. I am happily running windows 10 and XP in version 7 - 8.1 was upgraded to 10 in VMware without issue.

 

[jbanning]

Lol, where? In Africa?

Unfortunately no, here in the US! Comcast has data caps in place in the Atlanta, GA area and a few other "select" cities. They claim it's to our benefit. I can't even do OS updates without worrying if I'm going to exceed my cap, which I have done many time. One month, I synced my photos with Apple Photos and did some extra Netflix streaming, had to pay $170 OVER my normal cable/internet bill. I was NOT happy.
Most everyone I know in Atlanta is waiting for Google Fiber to be put in and then it's GOODBYE Comcast. Of course, at that point they will come out with a lift of the cap and say they "listened to customer feedback"...

 

[Kavik]

From what I have seen so far, this is like asking "What is better, PS4 or Xbox One?" This kind of question can trigger a holy war.

Will either allow me to play Windows games at or near the speed I get in Boot Camp? I'm tired of rebooting back and forth on my iMac to play SWTOR, Skyrim, etc.

 

[S.B.G]

How can I run a Mac VM under Windows? Is that even possible?

Yes, it's possible, if you have vSphere 6.0.

 

[Rigby]

Win10 is kinda cute

It's actually pretty good with lots of big improvements both in the UI and under the hood. Too bad Microsoft has a total disregard for users' privacy. You have to disable numerous settings to stop the worst information leaks, and even then some things (like "basic" telemetry) cannot be stopped unless you have the enterprise version.

 

[satcomer]

Plus all you going to Windows 10 please look at the article ( bookmark it too) Guide: How to disable data logging in Windows 10.

Plus don't let Windows 10 make your computer a torrent sharing bandwidth hog by reading/acting the settings in the article How to stop Windows 10 from using your PC's bandwidth.

 

[Rigby]

How can I run a Mac VM under Windows? Is that even possible?

Not legally, since Apple's license for OS X doesn't allow it. Doesn't mean it's technically impossible with some modifications though ...

 

[MrGimper]

Yes, it's possible, if you have vSphere 6.0.

Or workstation with a few tweaks "a friend told me"

 

[satcomer]

I've opted out of Windows completely. I wish my company would do the same.

You have to convince your company bosses on how expensive Microsoft Server has become and convince them that a Linux Server install (on the same PC server) will do the sames things for much cheaper!

If he wonders if it could be done just ask him/her if he listened to the radio. Those radio transmissions are most all on Linux Servers!

 

[Xenomorph]

Ouch! I had been waiting for an update to VMware Fusion - and instead of getting a new 7.x build with bug fixes, they release a paid 8.x upgrade.

 

[mosser]

What is better, Fusion 8 or Parallels 11?

Ive been a Parallels user since parallels 6 and upgraded every year. recently to PD11

But seeing that VMWare got dx10 i just opted to give it a go. see which kinda performance i can get from it. since i mainly uses my vm for ASP.net dev and for some reason visual studie is very slow under windows 10 parallels 11.

i give it 2 cores out of 4 and 256mb gpu + 4gb ram out of 8 still virtual machine seems slow.

i must say atm vmware seems to have a smaller impact on over all performance with an identical setup for vm.

 

[S.B.G]

Not legally, since Apple's license for OS X doesn't allow it. Doesn't mean it's technically impossible with some modifications though ...

From what I understand, OS X can be run legally in a vm, provided the host machine is an Apple computer and not an IBM-compatible PC.

According to Apple's licensing policies, VMware only supports the virtualization of Apple Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) client or server, Mac OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion) client or server, Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) client or server, 10.6 (Snow Leopard) server and 10.5 (Leopard) server.

The End User License Agreement (EULA) for Apple Mac OS X legally and explicitly binds the installation and running of the operating system to Apple-labeled computers only. Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Server, 10.6 Snow Leopard Server, 10.7 Lion client or server, 10.8 Mountain Lion client or server and 10.9 Mavericks client or server are fully supported on VMware Fusion while running on supported Apple hardware.

http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/mi...nguage=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1000131

 

[pacmania1982]

Try Canada... sigh...

And in Australia....

 

[avanpelt]

Unfortunately no, here in the US! Comcast has data caps in place in the Atlanta, GA area and a few other "select" cities.

What's the Comcast data cap these days? I just got U-verse gigabit fiber installed in Gwinnett. I average about 900 Mbps up and down so not bad at all -- especially compared to only other option here which is Charter cable.

U-verse's gigabit fiber supposedly has a 1 TB data cap but there is no way for the end user to monitor usage so I don't think they'll be able to enforce it. If they did enforce it, I think I read in the fine print that the most they'd ever charge if the user went over 1 TB is an extra $50 per month or something like that.

 

[glutenenvy]

Can anybody confirm if it fixes or addresses the activation problems introduced on a Windows 10 upgrade that runs dual bootcamp/vmware partition?

 

[mazz0]

DirectX 10? Is that a typo - did you mean 12?

 

[MikhailT]

Can anybody confirm if it fixes or addresses the activation problems introduced on a Windows 10 upgrade that runs dual bootcamp/vmware partition?

That's been a problem with all Windows versions (I've seen the same reports from W7 users), you can't get around the limitation of Windows license that says you can only use the license on the PC it was installed on. VM and Bootcamp for all intents and purposes are two separate PC environments, and as far as I can tell, you're not allowed to use the same license like this.

 

[Rigby]

From what I understand, OS X can be run legally in a vm, provided the host machine is an Apple computer and not an IBM-compatible PC.

Yes, but the question was specifically about running it on a Windows machine. You can run an OS X VM on VMWare Fusion without problems, but VMWare Workstation does not allow OS X guests out of the box.

 

[S.B.G]

Yes, but the question was specifically about running it on a Windows machine. You can run an OS X VM on VMWare Fusion without problems, but VMWare Workstation does not allow OS X guests out of the box.

Right. It doesn't appear to be in accordance with Apples EULA to do that- at least as far as I can find.

 

[Rigby]

Ouch! I had been waiting for an update to VMware Fusion - and instead of getting a new 7.x build with bug fixes, they release a paid 8.x upgrade.

They may still update Fusion 7 (at least they have done that in the past). I would at least expect an update to get Unity working with Win10 guests.

 

[talmy]

I skip every other version of PD (went from PD8 to PD10) as the version released for the current OSX works for the next major release. When I do update, I usually score a discounted version for $39 (there's about an offer a week), or an upgrade/full in a bundle that effectively costs $30-35.

So at least for me, for the last few years, I've spent about $40/2-years on PD after my initial purchase (which itself was discounted).

I do the same, and have been very pleasantly surprised to find PD9 works with El Capitan and Windows 10, so I won't be buying PD11. But I'm going to look seriously at Fusion because of it's 3 machine license. That's exactly right for me, and makes it considerably less expensive (as long as I don't have to buy Fusion every year either!)

 

[chucker23n1]

DirectX 10? Is that a typo - did you mean 12?

No.

 

[jedifaka]

That's one spin. Another would be that being able to download updates to one computer on your local network, and then distributing those updates inside your LAN, would preserve internet bandwidth. But then, "torrent sharing botnet!" is way more exciting.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/15/8218215/microsoft-windows-10-updates-p2p

If you install Windows 10, even if in Fusion or any VM, make sure you go to Network part of the Control Panel and go to Advanced settings and turn off sharing updates accross the Internet. If you don't do that little change then you could hit your Internet bandwidth limit that most ISPs have now.

Microsoft wants to make you Internet connect part of a Torrent sharing botnet! You have to Opt-Out the Network panel settings.

 

[exlemor]

You could always use Virtual Box. It's free and does a great job. I'm running Windows 10 on it now and it is cross platform (Windows, Mac, and Linux). But to answer your question, I've always had a better experience with Fusion.

True that it is FREE but in terms of performance and feature set = sadly not even close....

Just check out the performance results: http://www.tekrevue.com/parallels-11-benchmarks/12/
[only a bit discussed about VirtualBox to be fair].

Cheers,

Emmanuel.

 

[MyopicPaideia]

It's a fairly small market, it is highly complex software, and this is what software like that costs. They are not giving it away in order to sell you something else.

Virtual Box?