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Waiting for Broadwell MBP Thread
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I'm only hoping as I'm on the edge of buying, but don't completely need, and with it getting close to a year old, I don't want to really purchase.
It's also 2 weeks until this becomes the longest update cycle of the rMBP, and the average of the MBP, I can't help but feel something is coming, but then some products have become much older than that before a long needed update happens.
I'm aware the Broadwell chip isn't ready, but I just feel like something has to come, again mainly as I want to buy one!
My 2010 Macbook Pro is just now starting to show its age. In April it will be five years old. I am eagerly awaiting the latest update to the Retina MBP. Are we thinking September to December time frame? Any idea on specs?
Thanks!
Thanks!
No doubt. But as said before, Intel expects normal availability throughout the holidays, so BW needs to be in laptops before this period. The US holidays start in November (if I'm not mistaken), which makes October a realistic timeframe for a Broadwell Mac.
Of course this is all just speculation and nothing is set in stone, but I don't believe Intel would be making such statements if they couldn't deliver. Don't forget there's a lot at stake for Intel too. They cannot afford to lose their reputation in a ever declining PC market and with Apple looking to replace them with their own chips altogether.
We'll see how it turns out, but here's hoping to unpacking a Broadwell MBP come Christmas
No doubt. But as said before, Intel expects normal availability throughout the holidays, so BW needs to be in laptops before this period. The US holidays start in November (if I'm not mistaken), which makes October a realistic timeframe for a Broadwell Mac.
Of course this is all just speculation and nothing is set in stone, but I don't believe Intel would be making such statements if they couldn't deliver. Don't forget there's a lot at stake for Intel too. They cannot afford to lose their reputation in a ever declining PC market and with Apple looking to replace them with their own chips altogether.
We'll see how it turns out, but here's hoping to unpacking a Broadwell MBP come Christmas
And Broadwell will be a massive upgrade to the Haswell?
Broadwell will bring a significant upgrade to Iris and Iris Pro (some sources claim up to 80%) and of course better battery life due to the 14nm process.
The focus of BW is not the CPU architecture itself so I expect it will not differ much from Haswell in terms of processing power.
The focus of BW is not the CPU architecture itself so I expect it will not differ much from Haswell in terms of processing power.
http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-2...set-supports-ddr4-gt4e-graphics-chip-desktop/
I think 80% improvement is very optimistic considering there is only a 20% improvement in the # of EUs (40->48). It would be a much appreciated jump but seems unattainable short of huge clock speed increases. We may be waiting until Skylake/GT4e for a jump of that magnitude.
Well you have to keep in mind that Intel is going with a new GPU architecture this year, so that may change things a bit.
Official - BroadWell availability for the rMBP only in 2015
This sucks... But MBA can have the new hardware still this year.
"We expect the initial Broadwell-based devices, including fanless 2-in-1s built on the Core M processor, will be on shelves by the end of this year with more products and broader OEM availability in 2015," Intel told CNET on Wednesday."
However, it now looks like Intel will only release the most energy-efficient versions of the Broadwell this year."
Sources:
http://www.cnet.com/news/blogging-intels-next-gen-processor-broadwell-is-mostly-a-2015-thing/
http://www.kitguru.net/components/c...lity-of-intels-broadwell-chips-slips-to-2015/
And that's it.
I will make my order on the "Back to school program"
This sucks... But MBA can have the new hardware still this year.
"We expect the initial Broadwell-based devices, including fanless 2-in-1s built on the Core M processor, will be on shelves by the end of this year with more products and broader OEM availability in 2015," Intel told CNET on Wednesday."
However, it now looks like Intel will only release the most energy-efficient versions of the Broadwell this year."
Sources:
http://www.cnet.com/news/blogging-intels-next-gen-processor-broadwell-is-mostly-a-2015-thing/
http://www.kitguru.net/components/c...lity-of-intels-broadwell-chips-slips-to-2015/
And that's it.
I will make my order on the "Back to school program"
That is far from official and this thread should not be labeled as such. This is not an official statement from Intel. This is one man reading into the new iMac and surface 3 and his interpretation of:
Your second reference seems to be based on your first. I'm not saying he is wrong, just that this is not official, it's speculation.
If I said "I packed you a lunch, including a bag of chips, for your lunch tomorrow" would you think the only thing in it was a bag of chips?
Your second reference seems to be based on your first. I'm not saying he is wrong, just that this is not official, it's speculation.
If I said "I packed you a lunch, including a bag of chips, for your lunch tomorrow" would you think the only thing in it was a bag of chips?
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They're quoting Intel themselves, so I'd say it's about as official they can get.
Unless you're accusing cnet of fabricating sources?
Show me where they quoted intel as saying Broadwell MacBook Pros won't come out this year. Or even where Intel said the class of processors MBPs use won't come out until 15. They didn't. Intel said some products will come out this year, others will come out next year. Cnet is speculating on which will come this year, and which will come next year.
Apple and intel have an history of offering hardware before other OEM brands get it.
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This.
Hopefully mods will come in and suggest a change of thread title. How many times have we seen this?
Official Intel =/= Official Apple
Sigh.
That's something we already knew. Last month Intel's CEO said "I can guarantee for holiday, and not at the last second of holiday. Back to school - that's a tight one. Back to school you have to really have it on-shelf in July, August. That's going to be tough."
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If you want I can change the title. But for me it's a fact. Cnet is a credible font, at least for me, and they are saying that the low voltage will be arriving this year (that's the CPU that will generate less heat and may not need fans to cool it down); the other and more powerful processors will arrive after the low voltage CPUs
There is no precise statement there regarding the availability of the dual and quad core mobile i5 and i7 Broadwell CPUs that would go into the MBPs. However with a bit of experience of interpreting Intel statements this makes it very clear that there will be no Broadwell based MBPs in 2014.
I think this information should be merged into the waiting for Broadwell thread
I think this information should be merged into the waiting for Broadwell thread
It doesn't really matter what you think is fact - there are plenty of other folks around Macrumors (not just the editors) who have a much better understanding of tech news, and more importantly, how it relates to Apple.
If you need to purchase a macbook this year, by all means, go right ahead - but CNet's "facts" (or even Intel's) doesn't tell you much about the Broadwell rMBP release at all, besides the obvious that others have noted already. People did the same thing with Haswell.
Intel roadmap =/= Intel release =/= manufacturer release =/= Apple release.
Woah! This thread has been stickied! As a previous member of the Waiting for Haswell thread, I wish you a happy long wait. Hopefully nothing too cool is released so I don't regret my first week purchase. But an IGZO display with a buttonless trackpad would be cool!
Here a question for you guys:
What's your ideal Broadwell rMBP update?
I'll start:
1080p FaceTime Camera
Quad-core in 13"
Touch-ID embedded into the trackpad
Updated display with Quantum Dot technology and perhaps a higher resolution
10-11 hour battery life
Iris Pro in 13"
Larger base storage for the 13" (256 GB)
HDMI 2.0
USB 3.1
An NFC Continuity-related feature that ties in with the iPhone 6 and the iWatch
What's your ideal Broadwell rMBP update?
I'll start:
1080p FaceTime Camera
Quad-core in 13"
Touch-ID embedded into the trackpad
Updated display with Quantum Dot technology and perhaps a higher resolution
10-11 hour battery life
Iris Pro in 13"
Larger base storage for the 13" (256 GB)
HDMI 2.0
USB 3.1
An NFC Continuity-related feature that ties in with the iPhone 6 and the iWatch
Cnet:
(Apple is an OEM, just in case bold type and colour changing the text is not subtle enough, and they don't use the Core M in the rMBP. If they did I think mac rumours would have a full on wailing tantrum based on the reaction to putting a ULV into the new education/baseline iMac.)