I don't expect any major design changes with either Broadwell or Skylake. The rMBP is still too new for that. Likewise, I don't expect any changes in screen resolution.
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I don't expect any major design changes with either Broadwell or Skylake. The rMBP is still too new for that. Likewise, I don't expect any changes in screen resolution.
Ok, yes, just because I want one.
Iris Pro 6200 is definitely a huge step forward for integrated graphics, but the 850M has been out for a while, and my understanding is no one expects the 6200 to come close. If you're right, that's incredibly disappointing to me for the next iteration of the mbp. The 2014 mbp was graphically outdated when it was released, and that wasn't the fault of broadwell delays.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/100323/g...esteert-20-procent-beter-bij-gelijke-tdp.html
It seems Broadwell is already shipping in small quantities. This guy from New Zealand claims he received a notebook with a 15W Broadwell i7 and has put it to the test. The GPU appears to be around 20% quicker compared to its Haswell counterpart. The link is in dutch, but there's a video in english to check out.
That's pretty nice for a 15W chip. I really wonder now how the 28W will perform... here's hoping for a 28W announcement at CES
It seems Broadwell is already shipping in small quantities. This guy from New Zealand claims he received a notebook with a 15W Broadwell i7 and has put it to the test. The GPU appears to be around 20% quicker compared to its Haswell counterpart. The link is in dutch, but there's a video in english to check out.
That's pretty nice for a 15W chip. I really wonder now how the 28W will perform... here's hoping for a 28W announcement at CES
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/100323/g...esteert-20-procent-beter-bij-gelijke-tdp.html
It seems Broadwell is already shipping in small quantities. This guy from New Zealand claims he received a notebook with a 15W Broadwell i7 and has put it to the test. The GPU appears to be around 20% quicker compared to its Haswell counterpart. The link is in dutch, but there's a video in english to check out.
That's pretty nice for a 15W chip. I really wonder now how the 28W will perform... here's hoping for a 28W announcement at CES
yes, i3/5/7 broadwell are in world. for example in my country is now avaible hp with broadwell as in video on youtube.
as I say, I mean that intel oficial release these cpu on CES2015 and notebook companies release new notebooks on this action ces.
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Smaller package versus Haswell/Haswell Refresh -> cmon Broadwell with 14nm
(Skylake will have same nm size 14nm)
So smaller cpu package, motherboard, etc. will have Broadwell (vs Haswell/HaswellRefresh)
Skylake only cmon with new features versus Broadwell, not with smaller package versus Broadwell
(so if Apple give smaller chassis etc so time on this is broadwell) but I predict that apple not create new chassis.
But what I know
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For a 20% bump in graphics performance, I stretch this 2010 MBA for another few months. I'm actually shocked I've been able to keep this thing for 4 years without having upgraded yet, especially considering the CPU was pretty "under spec'd" to begin with.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/100323/g...esteert-20-procent-beter-bij-gelijke-tdp.html
It seems Broadwell is already shipping in small quantities. This guy from New Zealand claims he received a notebook with a 15W Broadwell i7 and has put it to the test. The GPU appears to be around 20% quicker compared to its Haswell counterpart. The link is in dutch, but there's a video in english to check out.
That's pretty nice for a 15W chip. I really wonder now how the 28W will perform... here's hoping for a 28W announcement at CES
We are having more and more confirmation that at CES intel show us new Broadwells.. Is now for you more near an early MBP maybe in February..?
I don't see a chassis redesign anytime soon, the Air hasn't changed to this day and that design was introduced 2010. So give another 2-3 years for this rMBP design?
But the Air now will soon (immediate on the calendars now) have a Change in its design as it is getting ready to be adorned with the Retina Display !
The first generation MacBook Air lasted 2 years 9 months and then was redesigned due to Apple dropping the HDD in favor of SSD-only. The second generation MacBook Air has already lasted more than 4 years and is expected to last until Apple are ready to upgrade it to Retina.
I don't expect Apple to redesign the MacBook Pro again until they have a reason to do so. Maybe, in the future, redesigned ports will allow for thinner laptops. Maybe Apple will someday add inductive charging, which probably would require a redesign.
I don't expect Apple to redesign the MacBook Pro again until they have a reason to do so. Maybe, in the future, redesigned ports will allow for thinner laptops. Maybe Apple will someday add inductive charging, which probably would require a redesign.
And how much time frame do you think ? This would take ? before this happens ?
Been kind of reading this thread again. So are the broadwell chips for the 15" more likely towards the end of 2015? If so, is it worth it to wait for them? I'm still undecided on whether I want dual core or quad core, but I'm still wondering if I should even wait for broadwell or if I should just go ahead and get the current model.
I think it will be years before we see a new case design for the MBP.
Probably summer 2015.
In my opinion, now is an excellent time to buy a rMBP.
But why cant be a design change of the rMBP with the coming of Skylake ? just like Apple changed the design of iPhone 5s in iPhone 6. I know that is like comparing a oranges with Mangoes but I am saying Apple is very notorious with changing the designs of its gadgets. Why would they not do it with rMBP with Skylake ?
You can't change it a lot ... It is very thin and has a good design ..how you can change it ? If you do it thinner you should change the design of the ports but it would be a bad thing ..one thing they could change is the fan design and the cooling system because as I've read it doesn't work very well and maybe add new colors.
In my opinion they should change the way the battery is inserted in the Mac : it would be better if the battery wouldn't be glued in place ,because is the main component which degrades faster.
So you basically want a redesign so you can show of that you got the latest gadget or what? Do you know how much time goes into R&D when doing a new design? Unless something major change they will stick with what they have at the moment, no reason to invest more time and money into changing it otherwise.
I've seen you rambling for two pages about how you can't accept that people don't think they'll redo the design. Will you please be satisfied now?
http://images.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs-retina/images/ports_hero.jpg
I see room without touching to the ports for shaving 1 or 2 more milimeters if power consumption and heat generation goes down, and smaller battery cells can meet Apple's target for battery life. Or even they could introduce a new tapered design (maybe not as pronounced as on the MBA and to keep the ports). All that in order to remove 100 or 200 more grams on the two 13" and 15" rMBP (and to match the design of the future 12" retina Macbook ).
I see room without touching to the ports for shaving 1 or 2 more milimeters if power consumption and heat generation goes down, and smaller battery cells can meet Apple's target for battery life. Or even they could introduce a new tapered design (maybe not as pronounced as on the MBA and to keep the ports). All that in order to remove 100 or 200 more grams on the two 13" and 15" rMBP (and to match the design of the future 12" retina Macbook
).
What do you think Apple is Running some kind of if they like kind of Business, it is a very fiercely fought Industry with so many big reputed players in the competition, if Apple has to stay in competition they have to think diferent ( as they have been doing so far) so all effort, all time is no big deal and is 100% required if they have to beat competition. So whatever it requires, no big deal !! They have to do it !!
Only if you can get me an official statement/commitment from Johnny Ivvy and team ! lol !! And by the way we all are here for speculation, predction and forecast so it is not rambling it is all part of the game !
http://images.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs-retina/images/ports_hero.jpg
I see room without touching to the ports for shaving 1 or 2 more milimeters if power consumption and heat generation goes down, and smaller battery cells can meet Apple's target for battery life. Or even they could introduce a new tapered design (maybe not as pronounced as on the MBA and to keep the ports). All that in order to remove 100 or 200 more grams on the two 13" and 15" rMBP (and to match the design of the future 12" retina Macbook
Do you think that 2 mm and 200 grams will change a lot ? I'd prefer a new design of the cooling system
I understand your question to mean: Why do Apple change the iPhone design more often than the MacBook Pro design? That is a fair question.
One reason is that Apple produce more iPhones per day than MacBook Pro models per month. That allows Apple to amortize the redesign costs over a much larger number of units.
Another reason is that many iPhone buyers have their purchase subsidized by two year contracts. Every two years, many iPhones owners can get a new iPhone for a fraction of the real cost.
Also keep in mind that one of the factors driving design changes over the last decade or so has been ecological. Apple have removed toxic materials like bromides and have increased the use of recyclable components. That process has more or less been completed.
There have been three major redesigns of the iPhone. Two have been driven by new screen sizes. If Apple were to want to change the screen size of the MacBook Pro, then there would be a new design.
And there is no question of changing the screen size from 15.6 Inch to anything else and so change in design is a little far fetched theory right ? Be it Broadwell or Skylake or whatever ?