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If Intel and Apple manage to supercharge the Iris Pro so that it at least matches the GT650m in last years rMBP, then I'll be happy with the iGPU solution. If however, they use the standard Iris Pro that has already been benchmarked - I want a dGPU. There should be NO regression in performance in a newer computer. Whether the regression in performance be in benchmarks, games or day-to-day to use is irrelevant.

A newer computer should be a faster computer - across the board (and if that isn't possible, it should at least match the previous generation).

Sure. When you'll purchase the new 15" rMBP and taste how bitter is the reality without a decent GPU, you'll end up justifying Apple's decisions and looking desperately for mass approval in this forum in order to find some atoms of sweetness under your tongue... Lol :D
 
Tell that to the 2011 13" MBP and 2011 Macbook Air, both of which went from Nvidia GT320M graphics to slower Intel HD 3000 graphics.

The GT320m to the Intel HD 3000 was a fairly minor downgrade in comparison to the change from the 650m to the Iris Pro. Additionally, Apple really had no choice at that point in time, either continue with Core 2 Duo CPUs, or upgrade to the MUCH more powerful Core i-series. It was a no-brainer. But right now, Apple still have the option of using Core i7s with both an iGPU and a dGPU.

Sure. When you'll purchase the new 15" rMBP and taste how bitter is the reality without a decent GPU, you'll end up justifying Apple's decisions and looking desperately for mass approval in this forum in order to find some atoms of sweetness under your tongue... Lol :D

Just because Apple does it, doesn't make it the right decision. That being said, I will wait to see the benchmarks before I jump on board. Hopefully Intel have managed to boost performance as per the rumour a couple of weeks ago.
 
Sure. When you'll purchase the new 15" rMBP and taste how bitter is the reality without a decent GPU, you'll end up justifying Apple's decisions and looking desperately for mass approval in this forum in order to find some atoms of sweetness under your tongue... Lol :D

I have ALREADY justified Apple's decision and I am ALREADY tasting the sweet sweet nectar of mass approval!

Team iGPU
 

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So with all those colors which one haswell you gonna buy ? White rMBP or Champagne rMBP ? Or thats the wrong thread ? I'm definitely for the white 13" with maxed RAM and 256 SSD, but wanna see the Champagne one ... :rolleyes:
 
So with all those colors which one haswell you gonna buy ? White rMBP or Champagne rMBP ? Or thats the wrong thread ? I'm definitely for the white 13" with maxed RAM and 256 SSD, but wanna see the Champagne one ... :rolleyes:

I'm going with the gold one with plastic diamonds around the edge! Bling bling
 
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, because the Spring 2014 models would probably be ramping up anyway.
Why do you think there would be new Spring 2014 rMBPs?

The 2008 iMac was my first Mac and I'm ridiculously excited about getting the new rmbp
My first Mac was a prototype Skinny Mac (i.e. 128KB of RAM) in August 1983. It wasn't mine, but it was on my desk. I wish it were mine and I still had it. :)

There should be NO regression in performance in a newer computer. Whether the regression in performance be in benchmarks, games or day-to-day to use is irrelevant.

A newer computer should be a faster computer - across the board (and if that isn't possible, it should at least match the previous generation).
I strongly disagree. I'm quite happy to have five steps forward and one step back. Please feel free to buy an Ivy Bridge rMBP if the iGPU is so important to you.
 
Been away from this thread for a couple of pages. Now things are getting interesting again. Hoping for more rumors to confirm the September 10 announcement and some spec leaks.

I'm hoping for a bit more than just the Haswell bump + battery life (and iGPU/dGPU whatever I don't care anymore). New color? Some new features?
 
I'm hoping for a bit more than just the Haswell bump + battery life (and iGPU/dGPU whatever I don't care anymore). New color? Some new features?

I don't see much chance of new colors. 802.11ac looks like a safe bet since the MBA now has 802.11ac. Thunderbolt 2 is a possibility which increases in probability as time passes (but I don't see any realistic chance that Apple would hold up the release just to include TB2). I agree with hova that a 1080p iSight camera is a possibility. A 16GB BTO option for the 13" rMBP seems likely. A 1TB SSD is another possible BTO option.

In short, I don't expect this to be a dramatic update.
 
Any good guesses on what 3 configs of each the Apple retail stores will have in stock?

Some educated guesses based on current models:
13" 2.4GHz i5, 128GB SSD, 8GB RAM
13" 2.4GHz i5, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM
13" 2.8GHz i7, 768-1024GB SSD, 8-16GB RAM
15" 2.0GHz i7, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM
15" 2.3GHz i7, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM
15" 2.4GHz i7, 768-1024GB SSD, 16-32GB RAM
 
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Some educated guesses based on current models:
13" 2.4GHz i5, 128GB SSD, 8GB RAM
13" 2.4GHz i5, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM
13" 2.8GHz i7, 768-1024GB SSD, 8-16GB RAM
15" 2.0GHz i7, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM
15" 2.3GHz i7, 512GB RAM, 16GB RAM
15" 2.4GHz i7, 768-1024GB SSD, 16-32GB RAM

A 32GB RAM option is unlikely before DDR4. 512GB RAM is obviously a typo and should read 512GB SSD. I'm not sure Apple will retain the 128GB SSD option for the MBP, although they did for the MBA.
 
A 16GB BTO option for the 13" rMBP seems likely. A 1TB SSD is another possible BTO option.

In short, I don't expect this to be a dramatic update.

A 32GB RAM option is unlikely before DDR4. 512GB RAM is obviously a typo and should read 512GB SSD. I'm not sure Apple will retain the 128GB SSD option for the MBP, although they did for the MBA.

I'm hoping for a 16GB RAM BTO option in the 13" Haswell rMBP. But if that hopefully does become available wouldn't it mean that Apple could make 32GB an option in the 15" model? Maybe they wouldn't because of price?

A 1TB SSD would be a nice option. Costly but nice :)
 
A 32GB RAM option is unlikely before DDR4. 512GB RAM is obviously a typo and should read 512GB SSD. I'm not sure Apple will retain the 128GB SSD option for the MBP, although they did for the MBA.

I personally think that 256GB is a good base size for the SSD but if the cMBPs aren't updated then it seems like they could keep the 128GB to lower the base price.
 
I'm hoping for a 16GB RAM BTO option in the 13" Haswell rMBP. But if that hopefully does become available wouldn't it mean that Apple could make 32GB an option in the 15" model? Maybe they wouldn't because of price?

In either case, it would require using DDR3 chips with two dies per chip (or a major board redesign). I think that's a lot easier to justify in order to make a 16GB option available for the 13" rMBP than to make 32GB available for the 15" rMBP.
 
Some educated guesses based on current models:

I'm hoping for:
13" 1.3GHz i5, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM
13" 1.3GHz i5, 512GB SSD, 8GB RAM
13" 1.7GHz i7, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM
15" 1.3GHz i5, 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM
15" 1.7GHz i7, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM
15" 1.7GHz i7, 512GB SSD, 32GB RAM
 
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