Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

[radiohead14]

All these Windows computer-tablet combos drive me crazy.

yea, but it's looking like these might be the future tho. once components get even smaller.. i see these being comfortable enough to use as a tablet as well. at least they're trying to improve upon designs.

Hey, look at that... the first one of those that doesn't look terrible. Has some degree of pen support too apparently, which is a big deal for me. I'll probably have to seriously check it out next year (usually try to avoid 1st gen devices if possible).

i like how it has a digitizer and it fully covers the keyboard when in tablet mode.. unlike the lenovo yoga.

 

[abraxian]

I'm budgetting myself for every eventuality.

£1450 sound enough for something decent?

 

[snapper64]

Do we know how much of an improvement the HD5100 on new 13" rMBP's is likely to be over the HD5000 in the Airs?

Are there any benchmarks for the HD5100?

 

[adjeff8]

I just talked to a database programmer with a computer science degree and she didn't have any idea what a GPU is -- let alone a dGPU -- so your 30% of 15" MBP buyers number is a complete fantasy because I'm sure she knows more about computer hardware than 99% of 15" MBP buyers. Your estimate is about as likely as saying that 30% of people who buy light bulbs understand diffeomorphism invariance in quantum electrodynamics or 30% of people who pay for massage know the difference between the rectus femoris and the vastus medialis.

There is absolutely no possible way that 30% (or maybe even 3%) of 15" MBP buyers know the difference between RAM and SSD.

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High price does not make buyers experts in the internal workings of the products they buy. 100 years ago, people generally understood the internal workings of everything they bought (except animals). That is far from true today. Most people buy everything as a "black box" with no knowledge of internal workings.

Only 3% of us know the difference between SSD and Ram? That's crazy talk. Everybody knows that SSD stands for Sucha Sterling Display and that the Ram is what you do with the USB cable if you're having trouble fitting it into its port. Us 15" users deserve more credit

 

[PDFierro]

yea, but it's looking like these might be the future tho. once components get even smaller.. i see these being comfortable enough to use as a tablet as well. at least they're trying to improve upon designs.

I think that will be very far into the future. And somehow I think Apple will be the last to drastically change their notebook line.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

How can people flip-flop between Mac and Windows just like that?

I know, usually once you switch, you're there for at least like a couple of years. What happened to people switching to Mac just for the OS. I love OSX, it must be very hard for people to go back to windows.

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And what to you think if the next cMBP will have:
13'' cMBP
-HD5000
-1680x 1050 only
-8gb with no option
-HDD or PCI-e SSD
-wifi AC
-dvd drive

15'' cMBP
-Nvidia GTX750m
-1680×1050 with the option of 1920×1200
-HDD or PCI-e SSD
-8gb and the possibility of 16gb of ram
-wifi AC
-dvd drive

There's a very small chance Apple will upgrade the cmbp, especially if the rmbps recieve a price drop.

 

[abraxian]

How much are people estimating the price drop for the MBPr for?

 

[pdpfortune]

I know, usually once you switch, you're there for at least like a couple of years. What happened to people switching to Mac just for the OS. I love OSX, it must be very hard for people to go back to windows.

Not really. In reality, they aren't that different in basic functions. I go to windows on my desktop, OSX as my laptop and switching between the two is easy.

 

[PDFierro]

I know, usually once you switch, you're there for at least like a couple of years. What happened to people switching to Mac just for the OS. I love OSX, it must be very hard for people to go back to windows.

Exactly. The majority of the users on here seem to feel that way, it's just the few people saying "ah I'll go Windows if the rMBP doesn't come out in September" that confuse me.

OS X increases my productivity too much to use any other OS. I would not have an enjoyable experience on Windows under any situation.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

Quad-core 15" and 17" MBPs were introduced in 2011. That started the speculation that the 2012 13" MBP would have a quad-core option.

Thank you for correcting me, I haven't been reading too much about Apple Macs until 2012 came along.

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Exactly. The majority of the users on here seem to feel that way, it's just the few people saying "ah I'll go Windows if the rMBP doesn't come out in September" that confuse me.

OS X increases my productivity too much to use any other OS. I would not have an enjoyable experience on Windows under any situation.

It's the match making of the software, hardware, design, and OS that make Apple products the top-notch quality they are.

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Not really. In reality, they aren't that different in basic functions. I go to windows on my desktop, OSX as my laptop and switching between the two is easy.

Try telling that too anyone who's been immersed in the Windows world too long

 

[PDFierro]

It's the match making of the software, hardware, and OS that make Apple products the top-notch quality they are.

Oh, I care about the build quality of the MacBooks too. Not only is the software and hardware top-notch, but the MBP has the best design of any laptop.

I guess some are willing to accept sub-par machines. There's a reason we shell out up to 2 grand or more for these Macs.

You won't find a better all-around laptop on the market than the rMBP. Besides, while Macs used to be considered expensive, Apple is creating good value on these. Even Windows ultrabooks start at around a grand.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

People do it all the time... Parallels

I think he meant as the main OS, not trying to supplement what another OS cannot do.

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Oh, I care about the build quality of the MacBooks too. Not only is the software and hardware top-notch, but the MBP has the best design of any laptop.

I guess some are willing to accept sub-par machines. There's a reason we shell out up to 2 grand or more for these Macs.

You won't find a better all-around laptop on the market than the rMBP. Besides, while Macs used to be considered expensive, Apple is creating good value on these. Even Windows ultrabooks start at around a grand.

Sorry, I forgot the design part in my comment, guess I thought that hardware covers design. I'll edit it now.

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Yes, but those people probably number fewer than 100 worldwide. More than 99% (and possibly more than 99.9%) of MBP buyers do not know what a GPU is -- let alone the difference between an integrated GPU and a discrete GPU. Of those few who do know the difference, most understand that they each have advantages and disadvantages and make their purchasing decisions based on overall performance and overall value of the laptop.

Even in this thread, it seems that half those with a quasi-religious devotion to the discrete GPU think (or thought until they were corrected) that a dGPU indicated a "dedicated" GPU. Ignorance has always been the foundation of religious beliefs -- including the quasi-religious luddite belief that discrete circuits are better than integrated circuits.

I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the posters in this thread who claim they wouldn't buy a MBP without a dGPU think that GPU is general processing unit.

I've always agreed with you whenever someone has put forward that discrete gpus will always be better than integrate gpus. I think you put forward solid arguments each time you reply to anyone who believes in that. Just wanted to applaud you on that

 

[goMac]

Yes, but those people probably number fewer than 100 worldwide. More than 99% (and possibly more than 99.9%) of MBP buyers do not know what a GPU is -- let alone the difference between an integrated GPU and a discrete GPU. Of those few who do know the difference, most understand that they each have advantages and disadvantages and make their purchasing decisions based on overall performance and overall value of the laptop.

For those people, Apple makes this.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

All these Windows computer-tablet combos drive me crazy.

I know me too, I hate them. Either you develop "gorilla arm" when trying to use the touch screen in laptop mode, or you have to deal with using a trackpad in windows 8. Both are similarly bad situations. That being said I did buy a keyboard case for my iPad

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Only 3% of us know the difference between SSD and Ram? That's crazy talk. Everybody knows that SSD stands for Sucha Sterling Display and that the Ram is what you do with the USB cable if you're having trouble fitting it into its port. Us 15" users deserve more credit

Yeah, duh.

 

[Krazy Bill]

How much are people estimating the price drop for the MBPr for?

Apple will start paying you to get one. Especially the 15".

Seriously, I know there are rumors of a price drop but I don't see why they would. I can see increased specs plus larger SSD standard for the same amount. And then I can see Apple reminding us ad nauseam of how they did this while holding prices the same.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

How much are people estimating the price drop for the MBPr for?

Maybe either a 100-200$ price drop, or a larger base model SSD.

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Apple will start paying you to get one. Especially the 15".

Seriously, I know there are rumors of a price drop but I don't see why they would. I can see increased specs plus larger SSD standard for the same amount. And then I can see Apple reminding us ad nauseam of how they did this while holding prices the same.

The yields of the retina display will start to improve. If I can get the 13" model next year for 1300$ with a 256GB SSD, I'll be very happy . By the way, does anyone want to help me with the website, I've been pretty busy of late, and have had a hard time finding time to write new articles.

 

[PDFierro]

I think it would be an incredible value if Apple even offered the 13-inch with 256GB for 1400. I can't see it happening this year.

 

[Krazy Bill]

Maybe either a 100-200$ price drop, or a larger base model SSD.

I say a larger SSD but no price drop.

The yields of the retina display will start to improve.

And so will Apple's profit yield. This will go straight to the bottom line.

6300 posts in this thread. What am I doing here? We have no lives.

 

[abraxian]

I say a larger SSD but no price drop.

And so will Apple's profit yield. This will go straight to the bottom line.

6300 posts in this thread. What am I doing here? We have no lives.

dont worry, on another forum I use there's a thread with 28k replies on which bands will play a particular Music Festival

 

[The Leafs Fan]

I say a larger SSD but no price drop.

And so will Apple's profit yield. This will go straight to the bottom line.

6300 posts in this thread. What am I doing here? We have no lives.

Our live are revolving right now around the fact that we need a new computer and it's interesting to have conversations with people who have similar technological interests as you, speculating on what the the most valuable company in the world will do in their next move in the ever-changing chess game that is the PC industry, which is set in the ever-expanding technological world, where one wrong move can set you up for disaster (Blackberry, or in this case, multiple wrong moves), and where companies can make it big if they play their pieces right (Apple).

 

[PDFierro]

Our live are revolving right now around the fact that we need a new computer and it's interesting to have conversations with people who have similar technological interests as you, speculating on what the the most valuable company in the world will do in their next move in the ever-changing chess game that is the PC industry, which is set in the ever-expanding technological world, where one wrong move can set you up for disaster (Blackberry, or in this case, multiple wrong moves), and where companies can make it big if they play their pieces right (Apple).

And if you're like me, who desperately needs a new computer and needs to get work done. Looking forward to that Retina display.

 

[Mattsasa]

how much are people estimating the price drop for the mbpr for?

$0

 

[hydesg]

with so many tablet transformable win8 laptops coming out, would the new macbook pro do so too?

 

[PDFierro]

with so many tablet transformable win8 laptops coming out, would the new macbook pro do so too?

Nope.

 

[powerslave12r]

I'm also in the rare position of having no laptop with me. I know for a fact that if Apple doesn't launch updated rMBPs on the 10th, I'm going to order the MBA.