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Wow, the new iMac now comes with 1TB Flash Storage!!!

That's certainly a possibility in the new MacBook Pros, I"m getting excited.

Thank goodness I waited...🙂
 
is it worth upgrading a macbook pro 13" late 2011 to the new ones that are coming out in october supposedly?

here are my specs:

Macbook Pro 13"
8GB ram
765 HD
2.8 ghz i7 processor
 
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rainbowsofwhite said:
the new iMac now comes with 1TB Flash Storage!
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I'd say that's a safe bet that the 1TB SSD option will be available in the 15" MBP and maybe also the 13" MBP. Interestingly, the incremental price difference from 256GB to 512GB is $300, same as for Ivy Bridge MBPs. The incremental price difference from 512GB to 1TB is $500, compared to the $400 incremental price difference from 512GB to 768GB for Ivy Bridge MBPs. So, the incremental price per additional 256GB of SSD has gone from the $300 to $400 range down to a new $250 to $300 range.

mattburley7 said:
is it worth upgrading a macbook pro 13" late 2011 to the new ones that are coming out in october supposedly?
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In my opinion, the Retina display and lighter weight make the purchase worthwhile.
 
mcarling said:
I'd say that's a safe bet that the 1TB SSD option will be available in the 15" MBP and maybe also the 13" MBP. Interestingly, the incremental price difference from 256GB to 512GB is $300, same as for Ivy Bridge MBPs. The incremental price difference from 512GB to 1TB is $500, compared to the $400 incremental price difference from 512GB to 768GB for Ivy Bridge MBPs. So, the incremental price per additional 256GB of SSD has gone from the $300 to $400 range down to a new $250 to $300 range.


In my opinion, the Retina display and lighter weight make the purchase worthwhile.
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really cant afford to get retina display one im talking about the standard macbook pros is it worth upgrading to the latest one over the mid 2011 version?
 
do the 27" iMac look any good when talking pixels compared to the rMBP 15" that has smaller screen and more pixels I´d think if I saw both I´d think the pixels on the 27" iMac was more easy to spot or am I wrong ?

anyone who have a 27" iMac that can recumbent it for me if I do not plan on moving the 15" rMBP that I was planing on buying when they get upgraded.
 
I'm laughing here at the Iris pro vs. 750M card in the iMac. Seems appropriate (I guess) to have it like that, but it just shows that they wouldn't drop the dGPU entirely like tonssss of people thought they would. Assuming that it's most likely that they'll do something similar with the rMBPs. Iris pro in entry model, and 750M in mid-high level.

I just really hope they put 2GB dRAM in there for the 750M! It is completely within their capability and price range, they just need to do it!
 
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Wow this is a surprise!
Only new iMacs and no new MBP or Mac mini?

The fact Apple didn't release the MBP now means they're cookin something OR still suffer from production problems. Production problems are unlikely at this point (I think, Mac Mini wasn't updated either) so maybe an event in october with Mac Pro and Mavericks might be the time to show of their Macs (while having something to show off).

A new Mac Mini design might be possible, but why wait with the MBP? I'm getting really curious.
 
Chris5488 said:
Wow this is a surprise!
Only new iMacs and no new MBP or Mac mini?

The fact Apple didn't release the MBP now means they're cookin something OR still suffer from production problems. Production problems are unlikely at this point (I think, Mac Mini wasn't updated either) so maybe an event in october with Mac Pro and Mavericks might be the time to show of their Macs (while having something to show off).

A new Mac Mini design might be possible, but why wait with the MBP? I'm getting really curious.
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Probably saving for the event and/or are ramping up production right now. We can wait a few weeks.

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mattburley7 said:
really cant afford to get retina display one im talking about the standard macbook pros is it worth upgrading to the latest one over the mid 2011 version?
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There is a good chance the classic MBP will get discontinued. And if it isn't, it won't be updated.
 
Definitely a significant surprise today as we approach the rMBP refresh - heck it has even got me back to writing in this thread!

Just want to point some key things out:

  • Low-end 21" iMac comes with an Iris Pro - last year's low-end had a Nvidia 640m
  • 1TB SSD option replacing 756GB, expect for rMBP (still overpriced)
  • Wireless AC included, definite for rMBP
  • No TB2, don't expect TB2 for rMBP

What strikes out the most to me is that they are going from 640m to Iris Pro in the low-end. Which, to me, confirms that Apple will have plently of Iris Pros in stock for their rMBP release. But remember - the 650m was overclocked to virtually a 660m. The stance Apple takes here on Iris Pros is problematic if they only offer the rMBP with Iris Pro, especially when their Apple Store app still shows the Nvidia logo under the Iris Pro in tech specs...
 
PDFierro said:
Probably saving for the event and/or are ramping up production right now. We can wait a few weeks.

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There is a good chance the classic MBP will get discontinued. And if it isn't, it won't be updated.
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why would they discontinue the classic MBP? not everyone can afford the extra cash to get a retina display 🙄
 
A little surprising as I don't think many expected any new product to come out today.

I don't think it's any indication on the status of the MacBook release though, problems or otherwise. There's no reason that iMacs and MacBooks have to come out on the same day. But perhaps there's some clues to what Apple is thinking specs wise. Now I'm bumping up the odds of a dgpu a little.

BTW how have the prices changed for iMacs, base and upgrade-wise if at all?
 
mattburley7 said:
why would they discontinue the classic MBP? not everyone can afford the extra cash to get a retina display 🙄
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Then that's what you have the Air for. The classic MBP is using old technologies and Apple would like to get rid of it. They kept it around last year and didn't update it, and the same will happen this year or get discontinued altogether.
 
PDFierro said:
Then that's what you have the Air for. The classic MBP is using old technologies and Apple would like to get rid of it. They kept it around last year and didn't update it, and the same will happen this year or get discontinued altogether.
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ah so i would be better off getting rid of my macbook pro and going with an air if im not going to be getting retina display? would there be any disadvantages other then losing the CD rom drive?
 
One issue that I've had with my Macbook Pro is a very noticable artifact in the middle of the screen. It seems to be caused by the Apple logo. It looks like a greyish halo around where the logo is. I don't notice it if I'm just looking at a white page, but it becomes visible over a dark background. I don't know if this link works well, but it shows the exact same problem as I have. Is this something which is present in the retina Macbook Pros? I know all Macbooks have a problem with the logo showing through the screen under bright light, but this is a much more noticable problem.

http://www.google.no/imgres?imgurl=...rB8WD4gTw04GgBg&sqi=2&ved=0CFIQ9QEwBA&dur=222
 
Maybe there is screen lag on the new Haswell's when using Mountain Lion. Maybe they don't want to roll them out until Mavericks is preloaded. We may never know.
 
mattburley7 said:
why would they discontinue the classic MBP? not everyone can afford the extra cash to get a retina display 🙄
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And that's why they will offer a basic version of the rMBP with only the Iris Pro graphics for the same price as the cMBP now. Similar to wha they did for the iMac today.
 
Watabou said:
And that's why they will offer a basic version of the rMBP with only the Iris Pro graphics for the same price as the cMBP now. Similar to wha they did for the iMac today.
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That would be interesting. But I can't really see that happening. Unless you are referring to the 13-inch, which wouldn't really be a "basic" version. It just wouldn't have a dGPU. And offering a 15-inch rMBP with and without a dGPU doesn't sound like something Apple would do. They either include it or they don't.

I'm personally hoping for no dGPU at all.
 
mattburley7 said:
ah so i would be better off getting rid of my macbook pro and going with an air if im not going to be getting retina display? would there be any disadvantages other then losing the CD rom drive?
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It all depends on what you need a new computer for - is your current one not up to snuff for your current uses?

The Haswell Air 2013 is a great machine, especially with the SSD, and you should get it if you need it now and that's all you can afford. But if you don't really need it right now, continue to save your money until you can afford an rMBP next year.
 
PDFierro said:
That would be interesting. But I can't really see that happening. Unless you are referring to the 13-inch, which wouldn't really be a "basic" version. It just wouldn't have a dGPU. And offering a 15-inch rMBP with and without a dGPU doesn't sound like something Apple would do. They either include it or they don't.

I'm personally hoping for no dGPU at all.
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Some 2009 15" MBP had only an iGPU while rest of the line had a dGPU
 
mcarling said:
Obviously because Apple had enough new Haswell iMacs produced and they didn't yet have enough new Haswell MBPs produced.
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Do you mean the parts? As far as we know, everything is assembled less than 5 to 10 days out in advance. They've been making unibody MBPs for years now so it should be pretty easy to scale up.

I think with the laptops, they may be waiting to line it up better with Mavericks and inch it closer to the holiday season.
 
Nbapapa said:
Definitely a significant surprise today as we approach the rMBP refresh - heck it has even got me back to writing in this thread!

Just want to point some key things out:

  • Low-end 21" iMac comes with an Iris Pro - last year's low-end had a Nvidia 640m
  • 1TB SSD option replacing 756GB, expect for rMBP (still overpriced)
  • Wireless AC included, definite for rMBP
  • No TB2, don't expect TB2 for rMBP

What strikes out the most to me is that they are going from 640m to Iris Pro in the low-end. Which, to me, confirms that Apple will have plently of Iris Pros in stock for their rMBP release. But remember - the 650m was overclocked to virtually a 660m. The stance Apple takes here on Iris Pros is problematic if they only offer the rMBP with Iris Pro, especially when their Apple Store app still shows the Nvidia logo under the Iris Pro in tech specs...
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Do you know which device introduced the original Thunderbolt? That's why I'm still confident TB2 will be on the new rMBP. It is stupid to introduce a Mac Pro with TB2 and introduce a MBP with TB1 at the same event!

This announcement is in favor of the dGPU camp, but my bet remains on iGPU only. I think that the MBP's will follow the path of the Air and will focus on battery life while retaining performance. A dGPU doesn't fit in that picture.
 
Production issue: the only bottleneck may be for high-end Haswell mobile CPU.

The screen will remain the same (hope LG has solved its production problem), the same for the unibody chassis, speaker, headphone, cooling system, touchpad etc..

No bottleneck for the production of fast SSD and wi-fi chip (both used in Imac and MBA).

Specs: I think its quite obvious now. Iris for 13", Iris pro for entry level 15", dGPU for mid-high level 15". CPU as expected, battery life I may say (bit correct myself) 9 hours. The only two question marks left are price and base SSD for the 13" but, looking at the SSD prices in Imac, I would say the base in 13" will remain at 128GB. Maybe, as a trade off, a slight price decrease.

Production: two possibilities. (i) They announce it with Maverick (to have something to present with the OS or because lag issue will be definitely solve only with Mav) or (ii) they announce it on oct 1 or oct 8.

Cross finger, the sooner the better. We got in this discussion people from all the world waiting for rMBP. I counted USA, Canada, Australia, Germany, Sweden, France, Italy, UK.
 
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