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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Or the 13" is just getting a little bit thinner and both models will be getting Thunderbolt 2, which they might want to announce with the Mac Pro.
Touch ID + Macs = NOT 2013.
And the next day somebody will hack this as well.
Any thinner and the display will cause it to topple over.
I'd be perfectly happy with Haswell, 2 extra hours of battery (with Mavrix), any iGPU, and TB2. Hold pricing where it currently is. See? I'm easy.
And the next day somebody will hack this as well.
Any thinner and the display will cause it to topple over.
See? I'm easy.
I'm with you! Keep the same form factor, just upgrade the internals and fix the screen issues. But I can't wait any longer!!
And the next day somebody will hack this as well.
Any thinner and the display will cause it to topple over.
See? I'm easy.
And probably not price conscious.
I would love for the prices to drop by $150-200 for the base models.
Please tell me you're joking.
If you're not, read that article about the Germans again, and double check the true meaning of "hack." 
It is expected that Apple will shave off 0.04 inches from the 13" rMBP so it'll match the 15" rMBP (0.75 inches vs 0.71 inches). Personally I don't see a point since that's such a small difference and even side by side I don't notice it. I'd rather they keep the existing thickness and just release it already.
Any thinner and the display will cause it to topple over.
That's a feature on the Microsoft Surface
I wouldn't be surprised to see the 13" get slightly thinner to match the thickness of the 15" rMBP. Apple's zeal for symmetry is pretty aggressive these days.
dang im now waiting to see what the new retina macbooks would look like
already had two hardware fixes on mine and then a usb port issue cropped which needs a new logic board but i can only get it fixed after 2-3weeks along with that spotted a couple of dead pixels on my samsung screen.
So i guess i can wait till the new ones are out and then take mine in and hope with fingers crossed that they say here you go a new one.
already had two hardware fixes on mine and then a usb port issue cropped which needs a new logic board but i can only get it fixed after 2-3weeks along with that spotted a couple of dead pixels on my samsung screen.
So i guess i can wait till the new ones are out and then take mine in and hope with fingers crossed that they say here you go a new one.
I know what im talking about.. I do 3d animation for a living and theres no comparison, dGpu wins.. sorry chief.. however, open CL is better for photoshop and some other apps, but I need my cuda cores... at least your half right, lol.
Well IMO Iris Pro plus dGPU could draw too much power. No point for this setup. i7 4700M plus GT755M - thats the setup for 15 inch.
But i think Iris Pro will be in 13 inch MBP. With QC CPU.
I can definitely feel we're getting close to a release!
Since the iMac comes with Iris Pro, I guess it is no longer THAT holding back a release.
Guess it all comes down to TB2 availability. Intel have launched two TB2 controllers (single and dual), so availability should be right around the corner!
It could be tomorrow, or in the next 30 days. Let's hope it comes soon!
Since the iMac comes with Iris Pro, I guess it is no longer THAT holding back a release.
Guess it all comes down to TB2 availability. Intel have launched two TB2 controllers (single and dual), so availability should be right around the corner!
It could be tomorrow, or in the next 30 days. Let's hope it comes soon!
Thank you for the kind words!
I thank you also for the kind words, but please note that I have never written that 2013 will be the year Apple will drop the discrete GPU from the 15" MBP. I'm sure it will happen someday. I think it's likely to happen this year. If it doesn't happen with the Haswell update, then I think it will be overwhelmingly likely (but still not quite certain) to happen with the Broadwell update.You usually come across as quite knowledgeable and detached in most of your posts - but its becoming increasingly clear that you'll have some explaining to do if the rMBPs are released with a dGPU option.
The 21.5" iMac comes in two configurations, the low end with Iris Pro graphics and the high end with a dGPU.
How does that bode poorly for a 15" rMBP to come in the same two configurations?
Apple obviously feels that there is value in an NVidia 750M over Iris Pro or they would not have created that additional configuration of iMac.
If they didn't see the value in a dGPU, why go to the extra engineering effort to create a second 21.5" iMac logic board with dGPU support? It would have been way easier for them to just stick to integrated GPUs on both 21.5" models.
I'm seriously tempted by the iMac...then I could just use my iPad with a keyboard as a sort of MBP lite
I'm seriously tempted by the iMac...then I could just use my iPad with a keyboard as a sort of MBP lite
Don't. Hang in there a bit more.
I'm seriously tempted by the iMac...then I could just use my iPad with a keyboard as a sort of MBP lite
brydge keyboard... best one you can buy.
Engineering is all about trade-offs subject to constraints. The constraints on size, weight, power, and heat dissipation are all very different from the iMac to the MBP.
Iris pro on 13" would be great and I will be extremely happy for that.
But at the moment there are no known dual core processors that come with Iris pro, sadly.
And for what I understand Iris and Iris Pro GPU are exactly the same in term of raw power and construction. What changes are the 128mb L4 cache added to Iris Pro.
But to solve the lag problem (assuming Maverick will shift work from CPU to GPU to increase fps when using safari) you need a quicker GPU in term of computational power, no need for video RAM.
It is my opinion that Apple will kept different GPUs in 13" and 15" models and the scale: Iris (13), Iris Pro (15 entry), dGPU (15 pro) looks much more likely.
Of course since I will buy the 13", I will be very very happy to see an Iris Pro in the 13".
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As for me, I just don't want to buy the actual gen since the next upgrade is the most significative since 2 years ago in term of CPU AND I don't like to play the first generation russian roulette with my money.
So what I need is simply Haswell and innovations already in MBA and IMac.
BUT I NEED THIS NOW.
But at the moment there are no known dual core processors that come with Iris pro, sadly.
And for what I understand Iris and Iris Pro GPU are exactly the same in term of raw power and construction. What changes are the 128mb L4 cache added to Iris Pro.
But to solve the lag problem (assuming Maverick will shift work from CPU to GPU to increase fps when using safari) you need a quicker GPU in term of computational power, no need for video RAM.
It is my opinion that Apple will kept different GPUs in 13" and 15" models and the scale: Iris (13), Iris Pro (15 entry), dGPU (15 pro) looks much more likely.
Of course since I will buy the 13", I will be very very happy to see an Iris Pro in the 13".
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As for me, I just don't want to buy the actual gen since the next upgrade is the most significative since 2 years ago in term of CPU AND I don't like to play the first generation russian roulette with my money.
So what I need is simply Haswell and innovations already in MBA and IMac.
BUT I NEED THIS NOW.
Of course they are, but the size, weight, power, and heat dissipation constraints should be fairly similar for the new 15" rMBP as the current model, correct?
People have been discussing whether the Iris Pro chip is close enough in performance to replace the 650M/750M completely in the 15" rMBP. Apple obviously doesn't think that Iris Pro replaces the 650M/750M.
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