You definitely need the rMBP before it starts getting cold in Minnesota.
I want that to - badly - except I am happy with 100 USD cheaper!
It seems that we haven't made much progress since we were at 8000 posts -- except that we now have Haswell iMacs and know that Apple's incremental DRAM pricing remains the same, but incremental SSD pricing has improved. We also know that the Haswell iMacs don't have Thunderbolt 2, so the Haswell MBPs probably also won't have Thunderbolt 2. Speculation about integrated versus discrete GPUs in the 15" MBP remains inconclusive. A 1080p FaceTime camera also remains speculative. Haswell CPUs, 802.11ac, and PCIe SSD are the only improvements we can count on with anything near certainty.
If Haswell iris pro is faster than 640M
And broadwell is going to close the gap even further....
Does that mean that broadwell graphics will be faster than 750M?
Sorry if my logic is not sound
I don't see how any of what you said makes me wrong. Yes, Apple overclocked the 650m, I said that. And yes, they could overclock the 750m to the 755m range. My point is that it's not the equivalency people are making it out to be:
650m, 750m and 755m are all the same chip. The difference is their stock clock speeds. That means that a 650m overlocked to the same speeds as a 750m basically is a 750m, just with greater potential for instability (obviously the 750m chips will be a more stable batch or Intel wouldn't be selling them at those clocks).
But I don't care how stable those chips are, you're not going to clock them much higher without issues (or introducing way more power and cooling). There simply is very little overclocking headroom left on a 750m. In other words, no matter what you do the 750m cannot be a significant upgrade over the overclocked 650m Apple used last year. And it definitely will use more power/heat for any performance gains it manages, because that's the only way it can happen.
In other words the 15" really can't end up with a serious GPU improvement this year without going to a larger more power-hungry chip (760m), it's just not possible.
To make this simpler:
650m--------------------------650m overclocked-------750m-----755m/750m overclocked
The Broadwell CPUs with high-end integrated graphics (whatever will replace the Iris Pro 5200) is expected, based on Intel's claims, to outperform the 750M.
why are we thinking tuesday?
One other thing about the Haswell iMac's, the price was not reduced for any of the models, so does that mean that when the Haswell Retina MacBook Pros come out, the price will stay the same?
I am hoping the base 13 inch goes to $1299 or $1399 with the higher end model being $1499 or $1599.
I am hoping for the base 15 inch model maybe to be $1999 with the higher end model being $2499 or $2599.
Also, I have heard some talk about an October 15 event. We'll see. Apple's got a lot of products left to update.
One other thing about the Haswell iMac's, the price was not reduced for any of the models, so does that mean that when the Haswell Retina MacBook Pros come out, the price will stay the same?
I am hoping the base 13 inch goes to $1299 or $1399 with the higher end model being $1499 or $1599.
I am hoping for the base 15 inch model maybe to be $1999 with the higher end model being $2499 or $2599.
Also, I have heard some talk about an October 15 event. We'll see. Apple's got a lot of products left to update.
The Broadwell CPUs with high-end integrated graphics (whatever will replace the Iris Pro 5200) is expected, based on Intel's claims, to outperform the 750M.
Just wondering what we can expect from the new 13" rMBP coming out within the next couple weeks. Stock option, not custom configuration, any dGPU? Or which iGPU with Haswell? Also, do you think it will be a silent launch?
It seems that we haven't made much progress since we were at 8000 posts -- except that we now have Haswell iMacs and know that Apple's incremental DRAM pricing remains the same, but incremental SSD pricing has improved. We also know that the Haswell iMacs don't have Thunderbolt 2, so the Haswell MBPs probably also won't have Thunderbolt 2. Speculation about integrated versus discrete GPUs in the 15" MBP remains inconclusive. A 1080p FaceTime camera also remains speculative. Haswell CPUs, 802.11ac, and PCIe SSD are the only improvements we can count on with anything near certainty.
13" is well defined.
Intel i5 dual core at 2.4Ghz, Intel Iris iGPU, 8GB ram.
The only two question marks are price and base SSD.
I would be surprised if the Haswell MBP were announced at the iPad event. I expect a silent release.So while we are expecting the rMBP to be at the iPad event, it could happen any Tuesday until then.
I don't know; I no longer have an inside source in nvidia engineering. My guess is that nvidia will still be able to produce a desktop discrete GPU that is faster than Intel's integrated GPUs, but maybe not in the laptops.What kind of performance would be expected from nvidia's dGPU offering by then? Certainly better but not as far ahead.
It's a safe bet that the 13" Haswell MBP will have Intel Iris 5100 HD integrated graphics and no discrete GPU. It's less clear with the 15" model. I expect base DRAM and SSD capacities to probably be the same as they are now.Just wondering what we can expect from the new 13" rMBP coming out within the next couple weeks. Stock option, not custom configuration, any dGPU? Or which iGPU with Haswell?
I would be surprised if the Haswell MBP were announced at the iPad event. I expect a silent release.
It seems that we haven't made much progress since we were at 8000 posts -- except that we now have Haswell iMacs and know that Apple's incremental DRAM pricing remains the same, but incremental SSD pricing has improved. We also know that the Haswell iMacs don't have Thunderbolt 2, so the Haswell MBPs probably also won't have Thunderbolt 2. Speculation about integrated versus discrete GPUs in the 15" MBP remains inconclusive. A 1080p FaceTime camera also remains speculative. Haswell CPUs, 802.11ac, and PCIe SSD are the only improvements we can count on with anything near certainty.