Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

[SFrank]

Going to be buying it immediately. Since most places have 30day return policy here, I could just return it if there where some big issues with it. But i doubt there will be.
Hopefully i can buy it from one of the big electronic stores in Sweden on day 1-2. They received the new Air models the day after the announcement.
But the new iMac have still not arrived. That wont arrive until Oct 5th.
So hopefully they will get the rMBP just as fast as they got the Air.
If they don't ill probably drive the 220km to the nearest Apple store and buy one there.
But i rather buy at one of the electronic stores, cos they have better return policy's the the Apple stores, also i have a 1500$ gift card on one of the electronic stores. But i could use that for something else later on.

I'm going to be calling around the next morning (events are held evening time after closing in Sweden because of the time difference) as soon as the stores open, and try to find a rMBP ASAP!

What do you mean they have better returnpolicys than apple store? The other stores (mediamarkt, elgiganten) does not have the return policy that apple does, i.e if you buy it from apple you can use it, install stuff on it, and still return it within 14 days of purchase, you can't do that anywhere else.

 

[GSPice]

Believe it or not, I'm not gonna get it right away - maybe by Christmas. I'm gonna use that time to read up on all the Haswell benchmarks, see how it compares to last year's models, and check MR for any odd bugs that would need updating. It's going to be fun reading everybody's posts again.

Oh and I'll be getting maxed out configuration, except for the SSD. I can't imagine the cost of a TB SSD.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

Who here is coming back for the waiting for the Broadwell/Haswell-E rmbps thread?

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Believe it or not, I'm not gonna get it right away - maybe by Christmas. I'm gonna use that time to read up on all the Haswell benchmarks, see how it compares to last year's models, and check MR for any odd bugs that would need updating. It's going to be fun reading everybody's posts again.

Oh and I'll be getting maxed out configuration, except for the SSD. I can't imagine the cost of a TB SSD.

What size SSD will you be getting then?

 

[CmdrLaForge]

Just curious but when the new models come out how many of us are ordering it immediately and how many of us are waiting for reviews first?

Personally I'm ordering it as soon as it goes on sale.

ASAP when the store is back up

 

[GSPice]

Who here is coming back for the waiting for the Broadwell/Haswell-E rmbps thread?

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What size SSD will you be getting than?

I'll be back for broadwell if I like the improvements enough.

And 512GB is my sweet spot. If I need any more than that I'm managing my storage poorly. I use network/attached drives for my media libraries - no SSD speed needed.

 

[Serban]

so any chances to silent release of the haswell mbp this tuesday ?
any chances instead of the 768SSD choice to get 1T SSD ?

 

[The Leafs Fan]

I'll be back for broadwell if I like the improvements enough.

And 512GB is my sweet spot. If I need any more than that I'm managing my storage poorly. I use network/attached drives for my media libraries - no SSD speed needed.

That makes sense. I just hope either the base storage rises for the Broadwell/Haswell-E refresh or the upgrade prices decrease a bit.

 

[bbapps]

So now that that the iMac is out with low-end having 5200 and higher models having dGPU.. What is the current thinking of possible MBPr configurations? Maybe an option for dGPU on the 15" high-end?

 

[GSPice]

That makes sense. I just hope either the base storage rises for the Broadwell/Haswell-E refresh or the upgrade prices decrease a bit.

Yeah.. I'm sure the price has gone down a bit, but I'm not holding my breath for a deal.

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so any chances to silent release of the haswell mbp this tuesday ?
any chances instead of the 768SSD choice to get 1T SSD ?

Small but real chance of refresh this Tuesday. A 768SSD may not be available, given the flash configurations Apple's chosen.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

So now that that the iMac is out with low-end having 5200 and higher models having dGPU.. What is the current thinking of possible MBPr configurations? Maybe an option for dGPU on the 15" high-end?

Wow. This is so funny. You're like the tenth person who has just posted that logic here, probably without reading replies other people have gotten when they've posted that question.

 

[GSPice]

So now that that the iMac is out with low-end having 5200 and higher models having dGPU.. What is the current thinking of possible MBPr configurations? Maybe an option for dGPU on the 15" high-end?

This was addressed a while ago. Only based on previous years iMacs and MBPs, a GT 750M (hopefully overclocked to insanity) with 2GB memory is expected on the high end rMBP.

 

[Serban]

It is official : 15" base model has 256SSD+Iris PRO
15" +150$ more has 256SSD+760M
15" high end model 512 SSD+760M


http://store.apple.com/us/mac/family/macbook-pro

 

[Gilmore Girl]

Wow. This is so funny. You're like the tenth person who has just posted that logic here, probably without reading replies other people have gotten when they've posted that question.

And still that question never fails to set us of

 

[GSPice]

Wow. This is so funny. You're like the tenth person who has just posted that logic here, probably without reading replies other people have gotten when they've posted that question.

I guess after seeing a 9000 post thread people a) don't want to begin the epic journey to Mordor, or b) forget that there's a sweet "search this thread" button.

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It is official : 15" base model will have 256SSD+Iris PRO
15" +150$ more will have 256SSD+760M
15" high end model 512 SSD+760M


http://store.apple.com/us/mac/family/macbook-pro

You son of a

 

[Serban]

:d:d:d:d:dd:d::d

 

[CmdrLaForge]

What is the likely hood that there is a quad core / 16gb option on the 13"?

No idea but I would love that. How about 30%?

 

[GSPice]

And still that question never fails to set us of

It's a little calmer, now that the iMacs have paved the way...

 

[Serban]

I WANT THE NEW HASWELL 15" MBP with 760M to play Worms Armageddon..come on APPLE

 

[Petulka]

At this point all I really care about is the macbook saying late 2013 before november so I can get 12% discount on my first rMBP and macbook ever.

Somewhere deep inside I wish for $300-500 cheaper iris pro only rMBP with 12 hour battery life.

 

[Serban]

This day we reach 9000 posts...why apple dont see that??

 

[bbapps]

This was addressed a while ago. Only based on previous years iMacs and MBPs, a GT 750M (hopefully overclocked to insanity) with 2GB memory is expected on the high end rMBP.

Yea got kind of lazy on checking the previous pages... But, thanks for the update, an over clocked 750m sounds great. Let's hope Apple engineers agree. Thanks!

 

[The Leafs Fan]

I guess after seeing a 9000 post thread people a) don't want to begin the epic journey to Mordor, or b) forget that there's a sweet "search this thread" button.

C) I know they've addressed it before, but I'm too lazy to find it

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Yea got kind of lazy on checking the previous pages... But, thanks for the update, an over clocked 750m sounds great. Let's hope Apple engineers agree. Thanks!

Haha, I was right

 

[Atomic Walrus]

Yea got kind of lazy on checking the previous pages... But, thanks for the update, an over clocked 750m sounds great. Let's hope Apple engineers agree. Thanks!

There's a big problem with this logic, which is that the 750m is already the same chip as a 650m except overclocked. In other words, there's minimal overclocking headroom left on this chip without increasing voltages, which exponentially increases heat and power consumption and is a bad idea for laptops.

Basically the 750m won't see the kind of overclocking Apple used on the 650m because they're the exact same GPU.

 

[JohnDoe98]

I used to think the same, but displays beyond Apple's Retina do look better. Have a read of this excellent article on the topic: http://www.cultofmac.com/173702/why-retina-isnt-enough-feature/

Based on that, you'd need an 8k display on the rMBP for true Retina.

Ya I've run across that article before. The idea is that some people can see better, and therefore we need to fix the limits beyond where they are currently claimed to be. But how common is this? Screens for computers are mass produced and so unfortunately if the average person can't see any better than Retina, it's going to be a tough sell to go beyond since for most of those buyers it will be a waste of money. So what percentage of the population sees better than 20/20 (with correction since that's how we view the screens)?

Also, the studies that show human visual acuity can reach as good as 0.6 arc minutes are in optimal lighting conditions with patients who have no visual aberrations (or worse, when the experiment directs the imagine directly on to the retina of the eye in order to determine the limits of visual acuity, bypassing the natural route of the image). Those are not real world settings. That might be well and good if all your consumers are under 20, but as we age our visual acuity tends to degrade.

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But, this definition of retina is something apple came up with, "300ppi at 10-12 inches is retina", i believe if you do the math from an arc minute it is much higher

You've got things backwards here. Apple saw the studies saying that the limit was 1 arc minute and did the math from that basis. For 1 arc minute it yielded a result of 300ppi at 10-12 inches. So they built a screen to go beyond that and called it Retina (it came in at 326ppi).

furthermore these calculations are all based on 20/20 vision being normal, BUT studies have shown that normal vision is closer to 20/16 or 20/12, that would increase the distances listed above

True, they are based on the 20/20 metric. However, which studies have shown that normal vision is closer to 20/16 or 20/12? Can you provide them? I've read that wikipedia article, and tried to follow the links to investigate, and all those links either don't work or send you to pages that do not support the conclusion drawn, i.e. that normal human vision is better than 20/20. So maybe you can provide concrete data, if you happen to know of it?

Vernier acuity...

Vernier acuity is interesting. I can't comment on that yet since I haven't look into it. But if everything checks out, you may have pointed to evidence which suggest that Retina and 4k class screens are not the desirable end point.

 

[PDFierro]

Who here is coming back for the waiting for the Broadwell/Haswell-E rmbps thread?

I'll be here for it, but as a Haswell rMBP owner interested in what's next. I think the Broadwell rMBP will be very far off, though. Late-2014 or even early 2015 depending on Intel.

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Just curious but when the new models come out how many of us are ordering it immediately and how many of us are waiting for reviews first?

Personally I'm ordering it as soon as it goes on sale.

I am with you. I am ordering as soon as it goes on sale, no matter what. I've waited too long for this. But I am not 100% sure on the configuration I plan to go with, I will wait until all is revealed and decide quickly.