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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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REM314 said:
Its mind boggling that Apple still has 4GB has a stock option on a Macbook Pro. My 2008 non-unibody Macbook Pro has 4 GB and it isn't enough.
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It's obviously a marketing move to be able to offer a retinabook at an Air-like student-friendly price. But I agree--I certainly wouldn't want to be stuck with 4GB three years from now.
 
Hypathia said:
I think they screwed up the specs page. The other explanation doesn't make any sense. Currently:

Base model without dGPU ($1999) + 2,3Ghz + 16GB Ram + 512GB flash = $2599
Top-end model with dGPU = $2599

In addition, we had those leaks from that chinese website which turned out to be spot on. Those only spoke of three versions: 2,0Ghz without dGPU and 2,3Ghz/2,6Ghz with dGPU.
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Your line of reasoning is presumptive. Those BTO options are hugely profitable, but many consumers purchase only one or two. Sales on high-end models also lag. It's entirely possible that the whole idea here to offer a "bundle" of features that appear to be at a discount from their disaggregated prices, with the goal of getting more users to upgrade to the higher-end configuration. Apple still gets more profit dollars (and margin percentages, too), while letting users think they've gotten a "better deal." We've already seen some people in this thread believing that very thing.

In short, rather than assuming it doesn't make sense, an alternative hypothesis is that it's clever, projections-based marketing.
 
brandonx76 said:
Thanks...now if anyone can confirm with new MacBook Pros if they were successful with a 15% deal via employee purchase, that would be awesome
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Usually with a refresh we get them right away. With new products we have to wait awhile. I don't work today so I'm not sure if they are available to purchase at a discount yet.
 
Well I just canceled my Yoga 2 Pro order and ordered the 512gb SSD Retina Macbook Pro :) Can't wait!
 
segalas said:
Does the 750m outperform the Iris pro in Open CL? Open GL for sure...
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Iris Pro has more ALU (= programmable unit performance) at a higher clock speed than the 750m. It also has much(!) more low-latency, high-bandwidth cache available than the 750m. The 750m, on the other hand, has much more TUs (texturing units) and ROPs (Pixel backends), as well as a high bandwidth for its entire 2GB of VRAM (Iris Pro only on the amount of data that fits into the L4 cache of 128MB).

In theory, the Iris Po should be much better at GPGPU (OpenCL), while the 750m should be, on average, better at rendering. That is what all the benchmarks have shown so far. It is also generally known that nVidias Kepler architecture (at least in the variant used in the 650m/750m) is relatively weak at GPGPU (OpenCL/CUDA).
 
Sigh. I've ordered a 13 i7/16/1TB.

Can't help but think that processor sounds under powered, but we'll see I guess.
 
endote said:
I'm really not sure, looking at the updates, if it's worth just getting a cMBP and adding RAM and (possibly) boosting the processor.

cMBP with 8GB RAM = £927
rMBP with 8GB RAM = £1014
(education prices)

I'm a musician. The retina display means little to me and I'll be using external HDs to save everything..

Is upgrading/maxing the possessors worth it?
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Have you tried using Logic (or any DAW) on a single 13" or 15" cMBP screen? Just my two cents, but a retina is a total game changer when it comes to having lots of info on the screen without constantly having to tab between windows...

Plus you're already dropping a bunch of cash--why get stuck with a monitor that will look like the 2016 version of a CRT (i.e. as high-res displays become the norm)? Not worth the savings, IMO.
 
Did anyone find it funny that during the keynote they showed a lot of the audience with thick old classic macbook pros in their laps?
 
*~Kim~* said:
Questions (this will be my first time ordering online/over the phone with Apple.)

Am I correct in thinking that if you want a processor upgrade, you have to order online or over the phone?

Thinking that I won't need the 16GB RAM, so planning on ordering it with 8. If I find that I do need the 16GB, are returns still allowed as it would be a customised machine because of the processor? If yes, can you return to an Apple Store or do you have to pay for a courier and insurance?

Finally, I'm a student but currently away from the university campus. Guessing that I would have to order over the phone or wait until I am on campus to order in order to receive the discount?

Thanks all
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I think all you need for student pricing is your .edu email address. Im not positive about that but its all I put in to get to the student pricing page. Im sure someone else has better knowledge.
 
Sweet, finally ordered...months of enduring poor performances with Logic Pro :p

Got the 15 inch with nvidia 750m..just in time to play around with it for Battlefield 4 next week. These two weeks couldn't possibly be better ;)

congrats to the rest who also bought theirs!
 
Hypathia said:
Iris Pro has more ALU (= programmable unit performance) at a higher clock speed than the 750m. It also has much(!) more low-latency, high-bandwidth cache available than the 750m. The 750m, on the other hand, has much more TUs (texturing units) and ROPs (Pixel backends).

In theory, the Iris Po should be much better at GPGPU (OpenCL), while the 750m should be, on average, better at rendering. That is what all the benchmarks have shown so far. It is also generally known that nVidias Kepler architecture (at least in the variant used in the 650m/750m) is relatively weak at GPGPU (OpenCL/CUDA).
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Hopefully Apple's graphics switching algorithms have improved enough to be able to know which GPU to use under various circumstances. There would be nothing more frustrating than being stuck on the Iris Pro while gaming, or conversely the 750M while in Photoshop...
 
john123 said:
Your line of reasoning is presumptive. Those BTO options are hugely profitable, but many consumers purchase only one or two. Sales on high-end models also lag. It's entirely possible that the whole idea here to offer a "bundle" of features that appear to be at a discount from their disaggregated prices, with the goal of getting more users to upgrade to the higher-end configuration. Apple still gets more profit dollars (and margin percentages, too), while letting users think they've gotten a "better deal." We've already seen some people in this thread believing that very thing.

In short, rather than assuming it doesn't make sense, an alternative hypothesis is that it's clever, projections-based marketing.
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OMG, that is Apple's peasant shrewdness... they should have made the pure base model with IRIS Pro at least 200$ cheaper then - for that the Nvidia 750m doesn't even exist on this model! They must be kidding... a clear rip off for the ones who buy the cheaper model.
 
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