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Stop damn well complaining. They said an iMac pro was coming when they said they were working on the Modular Mac Pro. The Mac Pro is still coming. For crying out loud people.

This is the most depressing place on the internet bar none.
[doublepost=1496713162][/doublepost]The Modular Mac Pro is even mentioned as being on the way in the damn iMac pro press release.

SHUT UP PEOPLE. Holy crap you people can find anything to complain about.
 
If I didn't like my Mac Pro so much it would be worth building a PC just to not have to come to this forum. But there is no other good Mac forum.
software forums.
that's where decent conversation happens while still being computer centric.. not too much hardware talk but hardware isn't really important when you're talking about actually using computers.. pretty much all current hardware can do the trick.

come here for the lulz ;)
 
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software forums.
that's where decent conversation happens while still being computer centric.. not too much hardware talk but hardware isn't really important when you're talking about actually using computers.. pretty much all current hardware can do the trick.

come here for the lulz ;)

I'm just going to make the most of my cMP and put as much new stuff into it as I can then look at what my plan will be when the new Mac Pro comes out.

Today is a good happy day with what Apple have announced. But holy crap man.
 
Hopefully there is an option to skip converting to APFS for folks who don't want that risk factor too this Fall. ( I suspect that won't be fully flushed out until Spring either. )
I doubt it. Apple likes to do its transitions whole-hog. I'm definitely going to hold off on upgrading the new hotness until 10.13.2 or whatever to make sure it's really stable before jumping over.

It's kind of sad that after all this time they still haven't changed the industrial design of the iMac at all other than this new color. The bezels look pretty horrendous these days.

I still don't get the fetishization of thinner bezels, especially from a crowd that usually bellyaches over Apple's interest in thinner devices. You have to stick the components somewhere.
 
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i just put in a feature request to apple--

Hi Apple,

Please consider a 6-core configuration for iMac Pro.
Thank you.​


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why no 6-core i wonder?

that said, i'm not familiar with the CPUs going into these things.. will the single-core turbo speeds be moreORless equal across the line up? or are the 8cores slower in this regard?
 
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Even more depressing than http://www.apple.com ?

I don't think so.
aww, i thought you'd be a least a little bit pleased with the 10GbE
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Seriously if so many people hate Apple this much. Why are they even here?
heh, i used to ask the same thing.. tried reasoning with people etc.
it's an exercise in futility Mr.Payne.
but good luck, maybe you'll be the one that finally gets it across.
;)
 
aww, i thought you'd be a least a little bit pleased with the 10GbE
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heh, i used to ask the same thing.. tried reasoning with people etc.
it's an exercise in futility Mr.Payne.
but good luck, maybe you'll be the one that finally gets it across.
;)

If people think Apple stuff is expensive, they should see some of the stuff in high end pro photography. Not hard to spend tens of thousands of dollars on bugga all in that world.
 
If people think Apple stuff is expensive, they should see some of the stuff in high end pro photography. Not hard to spend tens of thousands of dollars on bugga all in that world.
that guy Aiden probably spends more money than anybody else here on computer stuffs.
(for what its worth)

he's fine though.. even says something funny every blue moon or so
:)

but he's been around here since 2003.. i doubt he's leaving anytime soon.
 
that guy Aiden probably spends more money than anybody else here on computer stuffs.
(for what its worth)

he's fine though.. even says something funny every blue moon or so
:)

but he's been around here since 2003.. i doubt he's leaving anytime soon.

Yeah have seen his posts. He seems to work on some interesting stuff. That why I didn't intentionally ask he was here, more just anti Apple people in general.
 
It's not about justifying it - it's about putting it in context.

If you want more performance, you can pay for it in the PC world, but at similar configurations, the iMac Pro is not overpriced compared to a mainstream OEM PC (Dell / HP / Lenovo).

It is called propaganda, actually. Steve was also doing it, but because of his spirit and humor he made it well received. This one was a pathetic cheap excuse of an insane price for an AIO machine.

On a more relative note, doesn't this iMac Pro gathers all the tcMP characteristings that, admittedly, made it a bad choice at first place, and even on a higher degree ?

P.S. I'm thinking that I should make this question a day or two later if I want an honest reply. The apple hype from WWDC is still strong to most.
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In High Sierra page there is mention about External GPUs.

Locked to AMD, as it seems, though...
 
On a more relative note, doesn't this iMac Pro gathers all the tcMP characteristings that, admittedly, made it a bad choice at first place, and even on a higher degree ?

yes.
but worth considering-- apple is probably targeting the imac pro at people who were buying maxed out iMacs..
and i think you'd find these people were ok with characteristics of nMP.

or- that nMP didn't appeal to certain sectors of power users doesn't necessarily mean imac Pro will share the same fate.. if imac pro were the top of the chain mac in terms of price/features/performance then yes, it would most likely be criticized, and even more so, in a similar way nMP was regarding user swappable parts etc.

since apple is doing the mMP for the group of people who disliked nMP's restrictions, i think there's a decent chance of large percentages of people being pleased..

but it's almost certainly going to be like -- "hey, you want to swap some parts? and you want a mac? get a macPro because that's the only choice you have"
 
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Seriously if so many people hate Apple this much. Why are they even here?
Because they use Apple products, maybe they’ve already made the investment - what you want them to just bin it all?. You’ll find there are a lot of things in life that you just have to deal with. This forum is one of them, but in case you didn't know there is also iMore, AppleInsider, 9to5Mac etc. etc.
 
i just put in a feature request to apple--

Hi Apple,

Please consider a 6-core configuration for iMac Pro.
Thank you.​


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why no 6-core i wonder?

that said, i'm not familiar with the CPUs going into these things.. will the single-core turbo speeds be moreORless equal across the line up? or are the 8cores slower in this regard?

The 6 cores are just 8 cores with broken cores that were fused off, I'm pretty sure. So the 4-cores at least have the super high clock speeds relative to the 8s, but the 6 isn't really faster than the 8 in turbo and slower in all core mode. Makes sense, I think. Same with skipping 12 and going straight to 18. If you need more cores, just get the most. 8-10 for the people that need good over-all power.
 
The 6 cores are just 8 cores with broken cores that were fused off, I'm pretty sure. So the 4-cores at least have the super high clock speeds relative to the 8s, but the 6 isn't really faster than the 8 in turbo and slower in all core mode. Makes sense, I think. Same with skipping 12 and going straight to 18. If you need more cores, just get the most. 8-10 for the people that need good over-all power.
thanks.

i haven't even checked out the other imac updates until right now.. idk, for the way i've been using my computers the past couple of years (rendering via cloud)-- this looks borderline great, actually:

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i mean to me and my personal workflow, an 18core CPU is a downgrade for rendering.. all the heavy lifting / cargo carrying type stuff is now outsourced so locally, i just need fast single core performance for best experience. (assuming i have enough cores to keep the system as a whole running smooth.. but quads can handle that i've found.

hmmm.

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i guess it doesn't matter anyway right now.. some other tool upgrades are already planned out the rest of this year..
computers are next year .. ;)
 
If people think Apple stuff is expensive, they should see some of the stuff in high end pro photography. Not hard to spend tens of thousands of dollars on bugga all in that world.

You funny...

Do you think Zeiss prime has the same internals as a Tamron, but is so expensive because it has a thin, space grey body?

We don't have problem spending money on a quality product, we just don't want to spend a lot of money on a overpriced product with commodity parts.
 
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Some of the replies in this thread - most actually - since the iMac Pro announcement are borderline insane. Truly some of the most incorrect, uninformed, silly, useless drivel I've seen on here in a while. I expect this from the comment section on a front-page article...not a thread supposedly full of people who earn their living on pro-level hardware.

If you don't need the iMac Pro, great! It's not for you. Don't buy one. No one is making you. Stop complaining. It's a wonderful product.

By the way, for the ten trillionth time, do we really have to remind some of you that you can't compare your i7 Hackintosh to workstation-grade parts? This machine is using a very expensive CPU. A very expensive GPU. Expensive RAM. Very expensive SSDs. The display is pretty much as good as it gets period, if it was a standalone it would be half as much as this entire machine. As far as I can tell it will be a screaming deal.

Might as well buy a junkyard Camaro, an eBay turbo kit, and then claim that you have something better than a Ferrari 488 because you edged it in the quarter mile.

Go ahead - part for part, try to figure out what it would cost to build this on your own...which would result in something far less elegant, less integrated, and without such a convenient, nice design.

The next Mac Pro is still coming. Stop freaking out. Take a breath. Calm down.

I have a feeling there are far more "enthusiasts" in here currently than professionals.
 
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