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Waiting for Mac Pro Nehalem thread...

ksz said:
That's very likely. After all, Clovertown (65nm) and Harpertown (45nm) are pin compatible, as are their dual core siblings, Woodcrest (65nm) and Wolfdale (45nm).
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With woodcrest being compatible with wolfdale, does that mean that you can plug a wolfdale processor into the current line of woodcrest mac pros??
 
SpaceJello said:
With woodcrest being compatible with wolfdale, does that mean that you can plug a wolfdale processor into the current line of woodcrest mac pros??
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Mac Pro uses the Intel 5000X chipset (Bensley platform). It's very likely that this chipset does not support the 45nm Penryn, which is what Stoakley is designed for. Bensley also tops out at a 1333 MHz front-side bus, whereas the Penryn chips Apple is likely to use will run at 1600 MHz FSB. (This does not prevent you, though, from using a slower FSB.)

So without knowing definitively whether you can swap your Woodcrest or Clovertown in favor of a new Penryn, I would say that your chances are rather slim.
 
ksz said:
Mac Pro uses the Intel 5000X chipset (Bensley platform). It's very likely that this chipset does not support the 45nm Penryn, which is what Stoakley is designed for. Bensley also tops out at a 1333 MHz front-side bus, whereas the Penryn chips Apple is likely to use will run at 1600 MHz FSB. (This does not prevent you, though, from using a slower FSB.)

So without knowing definitively whether you can swap your Woodcrest or Clovertown in favor of a new Penryn, I would say that your chances are rather slim.
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awesome. Thanks for the info. Guess I will wait and see when the new mac pros come out... Whenever that maybe.
 
ksz said:
Mac Pro uses the Intel 5000X chipset (Bensley platform). It's very likely that this chipset does not support the 45nm Penryn, which is what Stoakley is designed for. Bensley also tops out at a 1333 MHz front-side bus, whereas the Penryn chips Apple is likely to use will run at 1600 MHz FSB. (This does not prevent you, though, from using a slower FSB.)

So without knowing definitively whether you can swap your Woodcrest or Clovertown in favor of a new Penryn, I would say that your chances are rather slim.
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Intel stated that penryn would work with bensley, not sure how the 1600MHz FSB processors would function, but 1333 should be fine.
 
I think Nehalem-Macs are at least a year away. Are you sure about 8 months? The new Mac Pro has not even been introduced yet. :)

Good luck to you, I can´t wait that long. My 5-year old PC doesn´t cut it any more.
 
Count me in for Nehalem. That is, as long as they're released by the end of next summer. With the way these stupid Penryns are going, this looks increasingly unlikely...... I just have to have it before I go to college, so I'll wait as long as I can.
 
limecat said:
Why do you remind me of a former member here who had a penchant for multimedia and close-up mugshots, hmm.
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I have to say, that was the weirdest web page I have seen in a long time. Can't say I know who the former member was who created it, but I literally felt three question marks hovering over my head when I saw it. :confused:
 
vendettabass said:
I'll be in my 3rd year starting Sept 09 so I'll use my final years discount for one of these babies plus a nice monitor :)

Wonder what we'll see late 09!!
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Probably 32nm Dual socket 8 core (16 total) and much larger memory configurations (4GB sticks easily available for Workstations).
 
I'm actually waiting for Nehalem to switch to Mac from Pc....hope it gets out soon :cool::apple:
 
Just thought I'd pledge my allegiance to the 'waiting for nehalem' crew. Penryns are out but seem like the last before the big update this summer...

Be strong people only 4-5 months to go!
 
CyCoPaTh said:
Just thought I'd pledge my allegiance to the 'waiting for nehalem' crew. Penryns are out but seem like the last before the big update this summer...

Be strong people only 4-5 months to go!
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More like another 10 months to go. You won't see any Nahalem cores in the Mac Pro until 2009 - at least.
 
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look, the first thing here is that 90% of software still doesnt support even 8cores of CPU power, and before they get in time with the current technology it will take some time, a whole new architecture means a new system, if you want it to run at full capacity. wanna know how long will that take after the architcture is officially released?
 
end up with nothing

You'd end up with nothing if you get caught up in this waiting game. There's always going to be something better and faster.

I've jumped on now and then after a few years or so (4-5 yrs), the next best thing is Gesher...I'm skipping Nehalem.
 
netdog said:
With Intel executing a significant architecture change next year, rather than plonking $4,000-$5,000 into a new Mac Pro Harpertown, I am going to let Intel shrink their dye size again and put in their new memory controller before I commit.

In the interim, the incedentals (DDR-3 RAM and faster, larger drives) will drop significantly in price, cores per chip could easily be up to 8 if not 16, and hopefully when I buy the big beast (or even better a mid-sized tower), it should last me a heck of a long time.

There it is. For now, I am waiting for Nehalem! It's not that far away.

Are you?

Official Thread Motto: We waited this long! What's another 8 months?
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Actually I'm waiting for the Megatronion processor which has 200 cores per chip and can fit into a MB Air enclosure. It can also make my morning coffee and bring about world peace. I figure it will be here around 2050 or so. Thats the ticket ... I just LOVE to wait.

If you need a computer then buy it ... everything is obsolete as soon as you take it home... geez.
 
It'll be painful, but I think if you can handle waiting (ok 8-9 months max?) nehalem might just be worth it. Its irrelevant that many programs won't be able to use the full power of nehalem initially, it will make this up in longevity. Plus, if you run the pro apps (logic, final cut,[...],[...]) they seem to port those to use all of the cores etc. of new processors quickly enough.

I'm sure we can expect a full case and display re-design (its been the same for years now!) which i'm betting will be awesome and of course a monster power bump. I'll be waiting.

P.S. Liking the current front page story!!

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/25/intel-nehalem-processor-details-leaked/
 
CyCoPaTh said:
It'll be painful, but I think if you can handle waiting (ok 8-9 months max?) nehalem might just be worth it. Its irrelevant that many programs won't be able to use the full power of nehalem initially, it will make this up in longevity. Plus, if you run the pro apps (logic, final cut,[...],[...]) they seem to port those to use all of the cores etc. of new processors quickly enough.

I'm sure we can expect a full case and display re-design (its been the same for years now!) which i'm betting will be awesome and of course a monster power bump. I'll be waiting.

P.S. Liking the current front page story!!

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/25/intel-nehalem-processor-details-leaked/
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Luckily for me the Nehalem Mac Pros coinced with my computer buying cycle anyway. I'll be keeping a close eye on rumours about the new Intel architechture that is for sure.
 
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