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Waiting for Mac Pro Nehalem thread...

Its gonna be a couple years until everyone and everything is up to speed for nehalem, unless they are busy making things compatible for nehalem now and bypassing working on what doesn't work with the new mac pros now...If people are having issues now I can't wait for the **** storm that will follow nehalem for months after its release at least :rolleyes:
 
CyCoPaTh said:
It'll be painful, but I think if you can handle waiting (ok 8-9 months max?) nehalem might just be worth it. Its irrelevant that many programs won't be able to use the full power of nehalem initially, it will make this up in longevity. Plus, if you run the pro apps (logic, final cut,[...],[...]) they seem to port those to use all of the cores etc. of new processors quickly enough.

I'm sure we can expect a full case and display re-design (its been the same for years now!) which i'm betting will be awesome and of course a monster power bump. I'll be waiting.

P.S. Liking the current front page story!!

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/25/intel-nehalem-processor-details-leaked/
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Sounds liek you're just looking for an excuse to not purchase the current Mac Pro. I too tried this and then finally realized it was stupid. Get what you need/want now, there will always be something better.
 
Truer words...

robrose20 said:
Actually I'm waiting for the Megatronion processor which has 200 cores per chip and can fit into a MB Air enclosure. It can also make my morning coffee and bring about world peace. I figure it will be here around 2050 or so. Thats the ticket ... I just LOVE to wait.

If you need a computer then buy it ... everything is obsolete as soon as you take it home... geez.
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I had to laugh at the above comments; they are very true.

Look, I have been buying computers longer than many posting on this board. There is ALWAYS something better just down the road. Don't blow money on X when Y will be out in no time.

Get what you need for when you need it. Unless, the current generation has been out long enough for ROI from the maker and MWSF is a few weeks away.

Historically, Apple does not churn out major revisions of a line as fast as other makers. IMHO, I would not be looking for anything of a major upgrade for 12 - 18 months. There has to be a lot of R&D and testing before rolling out a totally new platform as it is described.
 
cosmos said:
Historically, Apple does not churn out major revisions of a line as fast as other makers. IMHO, I would not be looking for anything of a major upgrade for 12 - 18 months. There has to be a lot of R&D and testing before rolling out a totally new platform as it is described.
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True, but what tends to happen is the PC manufacturers announce new products, then fail to ship them for a few months. Then Apple announces new product and ships straight away, still beating the others anyway.
My guess is we will see a Mac Pro with Nehalem this year (late 2008), it will be a 2S, 4 core workstation with 16 threads. New motherboard with DDR3, onboard SAS and other goodies. If not this year, then announced and shipping at Macworld Jan '09.
 
just opinion, but i cant see these things being released for quite a while, my guess would be about a year from now (maybe announced earlier, but delivered later...when shipping etc is also factored in)
 
cosmos said:
There has to be a lot of R&D and testing before rolling out a totally new platform as it is described.
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Is that why the MacPro early 2008 was released so quickly after the Penryn became available? Seems like a bit more R&D would've helped...and I'm speaking as someone who's waiting for delivery, I agree, buy what's available when you need it
 
dual 8800gt ? how? under windows? youre better off with pc if you NEED that. :)
 
lol :) sorry, didnt mean any harm!
you cant use both for powerhungry use in that case right? only for parallel desktops?
like rendering thru both for example
 
Mr.PS said:
Sounds liek you're just looking for an excuse to not purchase the current Mac Pro. I too tried this and then finally realized it was stupid. Get what you need/want now, there will always be something better.
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This is true in part, you'll see other posts buy me a few weeks ago saying i'll pull the trigger when they they update the displays. They also haven't been upgraded for a year or two and many were hoping they would come out today (tuesday) with the macbooks, guess not. So seeing as they're probably not going to revamp them until nehalem, and nehalem seems to be such a performance jump I think I might as well wait. My MDD G4 is chugging along nicely (just) and i'll run it into the ground until then.

cosmos said:
I had to laugh at the above comments; they are very true.

Look, I have been buying computers longer than many posting on this board. There is ALWAYS something better just down the road. Don't blow money on X when Y will be out in no time.

Get what you need for when you need it. Unless, the current generation has been out long enough for ROI from the maker and MWSF is a few weeks away.

Historically, Apple does not churn out major revisions of a line as fast as other makers. IMHO, I would not be looking for anything of a major upgrade for 12 - 18 months. There has to be a lot of R&D and testing before rolling out a totally new platform as it is described.
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Well lets think back to the G4-G5 transition (anyone an expert?). They came out with a speed bumped version of the Mirror-Drive-Door G4, then wasn't it just six months later when they announced the completely re-designed G5? Not long after that they were shipping. Does it not seem like the Penryn is the equivalent of that last MDD G4?
 
Really don't think you'll be seeing 16 cores. The market's already small enough for 8 cores... even four cores are just coming into their own, in reality (on the PC side, most apps don't take advantage of all four particularly effectively, and 8 is a joke... hardly any do).

It would just unnecessarily drive up costs with little real market demand. Mac users don't make up enough of the market to justify making one, and since OS X is really the one of the two OSes that really supports more cores well, there's no chance.

Honestly though, 16 cores? What the hell are you gonna do with that? Lol.

I wouldn't expect stratospheric clocks, either, btw, if you're gonna see more cores... added to the fact that Intel, for whatever reason, feels the need for ever-more cache (for reasons I can't understand... at this point they've already saturated with 3 MB per core, Windows really doesn't use more than that), you're just going to see more transistors in place of higher clocks.

That isn't to say they won't be overclockable- the new E8400@3 GHz can hit 4 GHz with stock voltage in tests... and 4.4 GHz with some voltage adjustments- but how likely is that on the Mac side?

Anyway. Just my $0.02
 
Tallest Skil said:
Tanj, you'd better be right. Redesigned Nehalem Mac Pros at WWDC '08 FTW.
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I might be wrong here but doesn't WWDC happen in the Summer? Around June? Nehalem isn't out til the end of the year so i don't really see how the Mac Pro's could be updated with them at WWDC unless WWDC is pushed back.
 
8-core is ridiculous. I don't think most people who own Mac Pros even use it to its full potential. I was thinking about the Mac Pro... but I realize it was WAY overkill. I do wish I had dual monitors though.
 
Mikebuzzsaw said:
8-core is ridiculous. I don't think most people who own Mac Pros even use it to its full potential. I was thinking about the Mac Pro... but I realize it was WAY overkill. I do wish I had dual monitors though.
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Now that my MP is just days from being delivered, I feel like maybe I did make a mistake. Maybe I should've waited longer, I doubt I'm going to be anywhere near using a MP to its full potential.
 
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