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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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Just came across this post via a local Dutch tech site: Anandtech Forum post.

the GT4e which is supposed to be in a Skylake QC 45W mobile CPU should have 50% more GPU power than the to be released Broadwell counterpart.

Skylake keeps sounding better and better ;)!
 
terencedriver said:
Which parts are needed for skylake mbpros? I thought it was skylake-U scheduled for Q3 2015. GTx is the graphics element only??
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I wouldn't expect them to use the U procs in the MBP. Those are lower power offerings for netbooks and tablets from what I can tell. I haven't seen anything definitive about when we'll see higher performance mobile procs, but I'm holding out hope for later this year.
 
Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

Patrick-Photo said:
Just came across this post via a local Dutch tech site: Anandtech Forum post.



the GT4e which is supposed to be in a Skylake QC 45W mobile CPU should have 50% more GPU power than the to be released Broadwell counterpart.



Skylake keeps sounding better and better ;)!
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Really interesting!

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Upper left corner part does indeed give reason to believe Apple is going to redesign the Skylake MBPs in terms of thinness etc.
 
terencedriver said:
Which parts are needed for skylake mbpros? I thought it was skylake-U scheduled for Q3 2015. GTx is the graphics element only??
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The U series has 25W (13" MBP) and 15W (MBA) chips. The 25W chips come with the GT3e GPU which is 48 graphics execution units.
Outside of Apple almost nobody uses the chips with the big GPUs. They always try to use the smallest chips with new production because that offers better yields and smaller chips are the ones with the GT2 GPU. Apple is the only one who wants the other bigger chips and they will have to wait because I doubt they reimburse Intel for quite all of what the extra die space cost is.

Ie. most other manufactures rather use a 15W cpu with an 840M dGPU because it is cheaper than what intel charges for the 25W GT3e part and it actually performs better in games. The only benefit of the bigger chip is that it saves logic board space. I doubt Apple will change their mind so they will wait for those big chips when Intel gets around to producing them, which will likely be half a year after the first batch of skylakes with the GT2 chips to roll out.
 
What about the possible wireless charging technology that Skylake features? Is there any information on how it could work? Also, why is this a feature that the processor has to support? Doesn't it have to do with building some kind of technology on the chasis?
 
nukiduz said:
What about the possible wireless charging technology that Skylake features? Is there any information on how it could work? Also, why is this a feature that the processor has to support? Doesn't it have to do with building some kind of technology on the chasis?
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I'm not an expert on that type of thing, but my assumption is that modern laptop charging isn't just a charging circuit hooked to the battery. I'm guessing that the processor itself does exert some "intelligent" charging control over the process.
 
It is apparently this magnetic resonance charging standard called Rezence that Intel supports and wants to support with Skylake. I doubt it is part of the chips but more of a chipset feature. It seems quite complicated and similar to bluetooth or wifi in how it communicates and locks on charging devices.
I think it could be added to any notebook. Intel just probably means to make it a standard feature fully ready to use so OEMs don't need to put in much work for enabling it.
 
vbedia said:
Get ready for another switch next time you buy. :D

I agreed. The only reason why the 13'' doesn't include a quad core processor is pure marketing.
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They could do bto and charge accordingly.

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yjchua95 said:
Not gonna happen until the 15"s get 8 core CPUs.

The 15" will always have double the core count of the 13" as a differentiating factor. Besides, a quad core CPU would be beyond the thermal design of the 13", unless there is a 28W quad core available and assuming that the form factor doesn't get thinner.
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Sorry but this makes no sense whatsoever
 
I for one, would like the new macbook with skylake. I own a macbook pro retina 2015 and I am quite happy with it. But it seems with the addition of a skylake model, my computer will be obsolete. I do not game a lot and do not own a 4k display, but if I were to do either, I would definitely benefit from the new architecture chips that support 4k (HDMI 2.0) without stupid MST bull snip. So long story short, it looks like I'm going to have to sell this thing once the new MacBooks are announced. :(
 
and1tennis said:
I for one, would like the new macbook with skylake. I own a macbook pro retina 2015 and I am quite happy with it. But it seems with the addition of a skylake model, my computer will be obsolete. I do not game a lot and do not own a 4k display, but if I were to do either, I would definitely benefit from the new architecture chips that support 4k (HDMI 2.0) without stupid MST bull snip. So long story short, it looks like I'm going to have to sell this thing once the new MacBooks are announced. :(
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Sorry, but what you're saying doesn't make sense. Your machine won't suddenly become obsolete with a new revision. I doubt you'd even notice a difference unless you running intense software that taxes your processor.
 
It may mean a skylake update around christmas for the MBA and 13" MBP. The 15" will get broadwell now and probably no update to skylake until mid 2016.
I would be very surprised if Cannonlake shows up anywhere near where Intel planned it when the wrote up that roadmap. It is not a terrible accurate roadmap and does not really cover the H-series at all.
As far as Intel statements go we are lucky if Cannonlake shows up in Q1 2017. Early/Mid 2016 dream on.
 
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Is it really possible that Skylake will provide a 50% increase in GPU power? I've been following computers for the better part of two decades since I was 12 and don't remember a jump this significant (integrated or not).
 
It will get almost that amount more execution units if the clocks are there and memory bandwidth does not become an issue it is very possible.
Kepler was about 100% faster than Fermi and Maxwell about 100% faster than Kepler. Nvidia made much bigger jumps as well as the whole mobile GPU scene. Intel actually still has a way to go to catch up in efficiency. I think requiring 50% more execution units to achieve there 50% performance boost actually sounds really poor because it sounds as if there are barely any worthwhile architecture improvements.

Comparing the GPU in the newest Atom really shows how far behind Intel still is in GPU efficiency. If they cannot pull of 50% with Skylake I would consider it a poor showing.
 
If sky lake does come out q4 2015 then I hope they do a redesign as well. Would be great to release during Christmas season but I doubt apple does it
 
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