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What exactly do you find so hard with Windows 10?

You're right. The average normal person can work Windows 10 perfectly fine. Even my mother can and that means something. If you open maybe 3 or 4 different programs that you work with or use in your spare time, that are conveniently placed somewhere on your desktop you will find almost no difference between Windows and MacOS as an end user.

But - like in my case - you're a one-person-business designing and creating brochures, posters, corporate designs and other forms of graphical media, you gotta do everything yourself. Setup a Network, a VPN, have all your devices synched, have a good backup etc... all the "PRO" stuff thats beyond the normal average facebook-internet-surfer. Those things are MUCH less pain on a mac.

I know so many companies that hire some IT guy to keep their IT in order, running Windows. I do everything myself, everything runs perfectly and it's easy to figure out on a Mac.

That's my biggest complaint about Windows and what I mean when I call it a cluttered mess (several ways to access certain settings, no cohesive layout and design when you dig deeper into the settings, etc...).

As a creative professional I enjoy my computers to get as little in the way of putting my creativity on paper (or more like "in a file") as possible. The Mac systems have always served that purpose well.
 
You're right. The average normal person can work Windows 10 perfectly fine. Even my mother can and that means something. If you open maybe 3 or 4 different programs that you work with or use in your spare time, that are conveniently placed somewhere on your desktop you will find almost no difference between Windows and MacOS as an end user.

But - like in my case - you're a one-person-business designing and creating brochures, posters, corporate designs and other forms of graphical media, you gotta do everything yourself. Setup a Network, a VPN, have all your devices synched, have a good backup etc... all the "PRO" stuff thats beyond the normal average facebook-internet-surfer. Those things are MUCH less pain on a mac.

I know so many companies that hire some IT guy to keep their IT in order, running Windows. I do everything myself, everything runs perfectly and it's easy to figure out on a Mac.

That's my biggest complaint about Windows and what I mean when I call it a cluttered mess (several ways to access certain settings, no cohesive layout and design when you dig deeper into the settings, etc...).

As a creative professional I enjoy my computers to get as little in the way of putting my creativity on paper (or more like "in a file") as possible. The Mac systems have always served that purpose well.

I am in heavy engineering and work predominantly for myself; W10 is crushing OS X for my use these days, Apple`s focus is on the mass consumer emoji`s, trick & bells, little in the way of real productivity gains. As for stability OS X (Macos) is the lesser of the two. On a recent trip to Papua New Guinea my 2015 1.2 rMB, crashed and stalled multiple times, yet under the name workload my Samsung TabPro S never missed beat. for my usage its disappointing to see where the Mac & OS X is today...

The trade off; I very much agree Windows is significantly more complex to deal with and administer.

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Oh quad core chips, how I've missed you!
Currently on a 2015 13" MBP, which I'll pass on to my parents when the 2016s are released.

Not slow, but man, multitasking on this thing is a dog. Currently compiling with Xcode, Dropbox is going crazy because I dropped a few gigs of new files to it, Photos is processing faces and scenes, Time Machine is trying to backup ~50GBs because of the upgrade to Sierra. I'm surprised it's even responsive at all.

While that Intel roadmap is depressing, it'll be quite nice to now that the Skylake MBP I'll buy in a month will be THE LATEST until late 2018. And that's not Apple's fault people. Even if they "cared" they couldn't do anything about it (downgrading to a lesser cpu class is not caring).

PS: Congrats on > 1000 pages.
 
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I am in heavy engineering and work predominantly for myself; W10 is crushing OS X for my use these days, Apple`s focus is on the mass consumer emoji`s, trick & bells, little in the way of real productivity gains. As for stability OS X (Macos) is the lesser of the two. On a recent trip to Papua New Guinea my 2015 1.2 rMB, crashed and stalled multiple times, yet under the name workload my Samsung TabPro S never missed beat. for my usage its disappointing to see where the Mac & OS X is today...

The trade off; I very much agree Windows is significantly more complex to deal with and administer.

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I guess it really boils down to the individual use-case scenario. If I could get warm with Windows 10 and everything was as convenient, I'd be gone in a heartbeat. I'm not a fan of anything google or android, so phone-wise I'm bound too. I know everyone (MS, google, facebook, Apple) is spying on you, but I have the feeling that Apple is doing it least intrusive and with a tad of style.... if that makes any sense.
 
I am in heavy engineering and work predominantly for myself; W10 is crushing OS X for my use these days, Apple`s focus is on the mass consumer emoji`s, trick & bells, little in the way of real productivity gains. As for stability OS X (Macos) is the lesser of the two. On a recent trip to Papua New Guinea my 2015 1.2 rMB, crashed and stalled multiple times, yet under the name workload my Samsung TabPro S never missed beat. for my usage its disappointing to see where the Mac & OS X is today...
Not to question your observations, but I also use Mac OS and Windows 10 daily and in heavy ways (software dev, video editing, gaming). And I have not observed any stability problems in Mac OS. I do feel like gouging my eyes out when I use Windows, but perhaps that's just me.
 
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No big news guys, but I started reading some old rumors today. Most of them that came out in August all pointed to a October release. We've been hyping each other up almost every week here (which I enjoy), but we're just now entering the exciting period...
I trust Mark Gurman's excellent trackrecord when he says new MacBooks may come in October.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...repare-ipad-upgrades-and-refreshed-mac-lineup
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-plan-first-pro-laptop-overhaul-in-four-years
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/16/hardware-free-wwdc-second-half-2016/

While my "regular" 2010 MacBook is still chugging along nicely (even with Sierra, albeit with upgraded RAM from 2gb tot 4gb!! and a SSD), I'd love to be able to buy my new computer for the coming years.

Just "Stay Tuned" chaps!
 
i would be happy if the mac is released end of October, or at least presented with all features so i can decide if i buy one or not...
i have an late 13 MBPr 15" 512 16 750m and hope for some serious features
at least, a better display, maybe a redesign, + USB C 3.1 TB 3 better SSD´s and Ram, and efficiency
but i want to stay with Magsafe ...
 
can smbd tell me, what the f**k Apple is waiting for ? i don't believe that macbooks are not ready yet. Huh?

Apple is going to buy McLaren, they have no time for stupid macbook pros.

COURAGE & PRIORITIES is the new THINK DIFFERENT.
 
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Not to question your observations, but I also use Mac OS and Windows 10 daily and in heavy ways (software dev, video editing, gaming). And I have not observed any stability problems in Mac OS. I do feel like gouging my eyes out when I use Windows, but perhaps that's just me.
It's not just you. Mind you that I'm not a macOS "exclusive" user. I switch between windows and macOS multiple times a day. Weird thing is that I didn't feel like gouging my eyes out when using W7-W10 UNTIL macOS came into the mix (around 10.7 or so). I started to slowly gravitate towards macOS, and the more I used it the more my "hatred" towards Windows grew. Contrary to others' experiences, I was "poisoned" slowly over time, for around 2 years more or less. Mavericks ultimately was what converted me. Present day, I really cannot explain to you the sense of frustration that takes over me just by glancing over the W10 desktop. Why you may ask? I really don't know. I find it baffling myself really...
P.S. Don't get me started on the Start menu or the Control panel, easiest way for me to lose my s**t, for basically no reason (at least a conscious one) at all. Maybe it's true what they say and Apple does brainwash people.o_O :p
 
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I don't want Siri on my mac, I don't want all that other fancy bullcrap shenanigans I want a stable productive OS

Apple`s focus is on the mass consumer emoji`s, trick & bells, little in the way of real productivity gains.

We're going to be seeing $10k USD Hermes Macbook sleeves? Hot.

The people on this thread are *not* the target audience for Apple anymore (Maybe "Most people on this thread"). But I think a couple of years back, they were.
I got my first Mac in 2006. I had always enjoyed working with Unix - be it Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD. And then came Mac OS X - BAM! Fantastic! Run practically any Un*x software on a nice computer with a great GUI. That really got me. Everything seemed to fit together. It just worked.
Being a software developer, I used Xcode - quite nice. I also use Eclipse - works just fine. vi? It's there and does what it always did. Feel @home.
Even in 2011, when I got my second MBP, OS X suited me fine. But today I'm starting to wonder. It seems Sierra is not primarily intended for me. It's for the teens, maybe college students.
The Mac lineup fits in to this. The computers are meant to appeal to the masses and to be used by them. If you develop software for iOS - they'll do that too. No need for anything special there.

So what do you expect from the hardware? Definitely nothing blazing fast. Just something that will suit the target audience. And like Hermes' customers, they pay the tax for the name - :apple:.
I'm just saying this because I believe that quite a few people seem to have very high expectations. Don't. That way the disappointment won't be all too big.

And for my part: maybe I'll go back to Un*x. Might even consider a Dell XPS (Ubuntu). But then there's still some hope. Maybe Apple will surprise me (a little) and offer new hardware at a reasonable price. Then I'll stay:).
 
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