Depends on usage. rMBP is getting old. rMBP 15 sold with dGPU have maybe 0.1% of the total laptop market?
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Depends on usage. rMBP is getting old. rMBP 15 sold with dGPU have maybe 0.1% of the total laptop market?
I feel you. When you purchase apple though, you can't think about it like another purchase. It's a luxury purchase. It's one of those things you have to "write off". Otherwise you'll hate yourself forever if you try keep trying to rationalize it
iPhones are a little different in the US because you had subsidized phones, so hardly anyone ever paid the premium $650-750 upfront.
Yeah, there's definitely a premium to the price tag, but at least the base model 15" is quite high end as it is. It's just that it's a ton of money for a laptop, even if it is very good. However, if it does enough work to be considered an investment (school/work), then it's just the cost of business.
That's what I'm trying to tell myself. I just wish I bought it before the Canadian dollar dropped and it went up $500 CAD for the same computer.
I'm finding my 14" laptop (T450S) too small, especially vertically. I'd gain 1.25" height and 0.85" width with the 15.4" MBP, resulting in an extra (and useable) 11.2 square inches.
But I could save $700 and get an XPS 15, though without OS X and 16:9.
I'm not sure if this reply was meant to me... I didn't mention GPUs at all.
What kind of tasks are you going to perform the most? Maybe a MBA would suit you better.
The Corei7-6700HQ in the XPS 15 is a 45W part, but it has an HD530 GT2e iGPU. Based on past history over the last 4 MBP generations, Apple will use a higher end 45W processor chip with Iris Pro 580 (GT4e) graphics. As far as I'm aware, no GT4e Skylake 45W part has either been announced or released yet.
Hello, first post here.
I have a 4 years-old thinkpad t420i with linux on it.
This machine was deceiving, and is now tired, so i find it hard to wait until march.
I think i am more interested in a high-end 13" rMBP, any chance for an upgrade of this one in January ?
March would be a 12months delay, and it seems to me that apple is really missing a market here, with the windows laptops that are now available with skylake...
Even a minor update would be fine for me, i just don't want to spend that much, just before an upgrade. 14" with same footprint would make me more than happy though
Are the skylake 28W with iris already available ?
I have a 4 years-old thinkpad t420i with linux on it.
This machine was deceiving, and is now tired, so i find it hard to wait until march.
I think i am more interested in a high-end 13" rMBP, any chance for an upgrade of this one in January ?
March would be a 12months delay, and it seems to me that apple is really missing a market here, with the windows laptops that are now available with skylake...
Even a minor update would be fine for me, i just don't want to spend that much, just before an upgrade. 14" with same footprint would make me more than happy though
Are the skylake 28W with iris already available ?
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I'd love prices to come down as well. But any Price discounts are pretty much lost given the value of the Canadian dollar right now.
The way I think about it is that MBP's hold their value pretty well and will still be usable for five or six years. So the cost spread over those years makes it less painful.
Those contain HD530 GT2e graphics as well. There are different XPS 15 tiers with different chips, but the underlying fact is they all use HD530.
Apple has used the highest tier iGPU based 45W part in the 15" in each generation since the first Intel chip with an iGPU - Arrandale, Sandybridge, Ivybridge and the current Haswell. It correspondingly uses highest end iGPU 28W part in the 13" MBP. Sometimes they skip an entire generation, as it seems with Broadwell, but they've never picked lower end chips.
This means 15" will get a 45W Iris Pro 580 GT4e chip and 13" will get a 28W Iris 540/550 GT3e chip. The Surface Book has an Iris 540 iGPU based Skylake, but it is a 15W part that's more likely to go into the MBA than the MBP, since 13" MBP has always used ~28W chips, just as 15" has used ~45W chips, in recent years.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/12/14/apple-thinner-display-taiwan/
After reading that article, we can probably expect to see the screens of the upcoming rMBP's will be thinner & brighter. whoopieding
After reading that article, we can probably expect to see the screens of the upcoming rMBP's will be thinner & brighter. whoopieding
The 28W Skylake chips Intel has launched/announced all have Iris 550; none to date have Iris 540. At this point, it's probably safe to assume that a 13" Skylake MBP will therefore have Iris 550. (That being said, Iris 540 and 550 are not really that different anyways; Iris 550 just has a slightly faster clock speed.)
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You are probably right. 28W 550s mean 540 is unlikely, because the difference between the two is a higher clock on the 550. If they're able to meet TDP goals with the 550, then the 540 becomes redundant .Maybe 15W gets Iris 540 at a slower clock and 28W parts get Iris 550 at a higher clock.
Correspondingly, the lack of any GT4e Iris Pro 580 based SKU announcements suggests they're having TDP or yield issues with it. Though the explanation may be simply one of fab scheduling because this is a premium part while the HD520 and HD530 chips are slower and cheaper volume parts whose production they may be prioritizing.
Luxury?I feel you. When you purchase apple though, you can't think about it like another purchase. It's a luxury purchase. It's one of those things you have to "write off". Otherwise you'll hate yourself forever if you try keep trying to rationalize it
iPhones are a little different in the US because you had subsidized phones, so hardly anyone ever paid the premium $650-750 upfront.
Sounds like what you want is the 15" display and the power of a MBA - why not look at a 2014 model, I'm sure you can get a lower price which the power you want and a 15" screen
It's the 15" form factor that I'm really looking to move to. I just find 14.0" at 16:9 feels pretty cramped to me on my T450S (though I'd dearly miss the keyboard on it).
If I do switch, it'll likely be to either an XPS 15.6" (16:9) or rMBP 15.4" (16:10).
Plus, my girlfriend has the 13" MBA and I don't really like it much, to be honest.
In a perfect world, I could get a 15:10 16.5" laptop in the rMBP/XPS form factor with the Lenovo keyboard.
I'd say a notch up from the MBA since it's really quite low and if my needs change I may want a bit more power (also to extend the life a bit considering how much they cost).
I've looked around at used ones and refurbs, but it seems that the $1000-$1200 price range is around 4-5 years old (Canadian prices). That's where a new XPS 15 starts, so it becomes more difficult to buy at that price.
Sometimes 2014 refurbs come up, and they usually start around $2000. It's hard to want to buy it though since I could have bought that brand new for $2000 when it came out thanks to the dollar.
It's not looking like the dollar will be getting much better anytime soon, sadly. Maybe I'll wait and see if they redesign it next year.
Let's think about the size then.
Someone think 16" still possible?
You see since rMB goes 12", there's a good chance that all odds go even.
Oh yeah and the new keyboard layout, larger keys, etc.
If we already argued this, I don't mind to talk about it again. Lack of rumors made all of us crazy.
Someone think 16" still possible?
You see since rMB goes 12", there's a good chance that all odds go even.
Oh yeah and the new keyboard layout, larger keys, etc.
If we already argued this, I don't mind to talk about it again. Lack of rumors made all of us crazy.
Why should we? Previous generations also had some i5 and some i7 quad-cores. Are the prices Intel charges lower than with previous generation? Haven't heard anything about it.
LG just anounced the Gram 15 (gold) 15.6 screen with small bezels with a "14inch form factor" and it weights just like the retina macbook 12. http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/lg-gram-15-inch-specs
No words about the CPU version, but they would unveil all the line at CES 2016 so probably we will see something about Skylake-H by then.
No words about the CPU version, but they would unveil all the line at CES 2016 so probably we will see something about Skylake-H by then.
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