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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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like i said it is a prototype for the already announce 12" macbookNO, it is right there
they already told to Charlie that they build many screen dimensions prototypes until they settle to one or two( iphones etc)
They're not dumb enough just to put a super secret devices in front of the cameras right? Who would want to do that...Do you Think it's a prototype or do you Know it's a prototype?
Or maybe they're laying down the iMacs.
Lol, maybe even there is nothing real on the table anyway.
Just put a desktop on there anybody will know that whether they're covered or not.
Please don't lie: I never said a a "highest end" card, but at least an acceptable mid-range card such as, for instance, an Nvidia 960m, which is cooler and faster than the chosen Radeon m370x.
At the end of the day, this is a $2,500+ machine... shouldn't it sport, at least, a mid-range GPU? I repeat: NOT a high-end GPU, but at least an adequate mid-range GPU... You know, how would you feel to pay premium money for a 3-year old SSD or screen technology? well, that's what Apple does with GPU.
First thing is, many of the 2000 dollars, are the combination of the build quality with the performances they put in, a better graphics chip won't be cheaper.
Even if you do, there is cooling issues to be considered. It's chassis were very thin at the time point, and may not optimized the graphics chips the way it should. The best solution for this its to make it thicker, but we knew it's not going to happened.
Third, it's what it's required for. Even you say you don't care about cooling and want a great graphics chip, they weren't many areas to used for - Macs don't really have many games supported, and mainly we bought graphics were playing games.
If you really need one to play games, think about a thicker gaming laptops. Maybe everyone want a thin, light, and good cooling gaming laptops, but that's just full of a compromises if you really do.
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Pretty sure they went AMD because the AMD card outperformed Nvidia in OpenCL. OpenCL is used in all of Apple's professional apps. So they went AMD this time.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/0...e-2015-15-inch-retina-macbook-pro-reviewed/2/
M370X is mid-range GPU from AMD. New compiler from AMD will allow CUDA code to be executed on AMD hardware. OpenCL performance is much higher on AMD GPUs, than on Nvidia. 4 year old Tahiti in Radeon R9 7970 is faster in OpenCL compute than GTX 980 Ti from Nvidia.
http://cdn.sweclockers.com/artikel/diagram/10130?key=6e3c39edaaa5f182742dac364baf5b54 Like here for example.
http://cdn.sweclockers.com/artikel/diagram/10130?key=6e3c39edaaa5f182742dac364baf5b54 Like here for example.
Is he in there?
And that's something they forgot, and this time you're facing in front of the camera and they probably told you that they're coming before so you will have enough time to prepare for it.
If you still lose your secrets..get out of there.
Choice is driven by TDP, not price. m370X = ~40W TDP. 960M = 60W TDP . They can downclock the 960M and get better TDP, but downclocking the dGPU means loss of performance. I have not seen anything that proves that Apple picked a worse chip despite the existence of another with comparable TDP and better performance.
The MBP is a heavily TDP constrained device, with a history of GPU failures due to both Nvidia and AMD dGPUs, all pointing to just how hard it is to make it work within that tiny enclosure. The history of logic board failures is a symptom of underestimating damage from heat dissipation and thermal cycling over time. The MBP problems are even more prominent because Macs themselves tend to last longer than PCs, and Macs have a greater reputation for reliability and longevity.
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Just because of that, even you put a better performance graphics chips eventually it won't be optimized that the way it should.
People will still be complaining if they really did this anyway...no offense though.
Is "Macs having a longer life span" means Macs were made to lasts longer than any other else?
Damn. So even on the fully-loaded, highest-priced MBP 15" the Nvidia will be 950M at best?
Also, what do you think of the Dell XPS 15 with 960M? How is the hardware build quality and trackpad? I'm looking for a reliable machines like a Macbook, and don't mind Windows if the build quality is similar and trackpad just as good.
Also, what do you think of the Dell XPS 15 with 960M? How is the hardware build quality and trackpad? I'm looking for a reliable machines like a Macbook, and don't mind Windows if the build quality is similar and trackpad just as good.
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