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It would be 950M if they go back to Nvidia. They have a TDP limit that the 960M exceeds. Its physics guys.

I would expect them to stay with AMD frankly though. Apple puts dGPU's in its laptops for professional apps, which means OpenCL. They really do not care about gaming.
 
Guys, GTX 950M and GTX 960M have THE SAME GM107 core inside them. How can one be crap, and second brilliant?

Not crap imho, just a bit different. Some versions of the 950m rely on slower memory and in general the 950m is clocked lower (roughly 15%). It's only around 20% slower overall.

Clocking down a 960m btw, wouldn't make much of an improvement over a R9 m370x. The new Iris 580 Pro would be just as fast so I'm putting my money on that horse. I won't think Apple will or can upgrade to a good alternative for the R9 m370x in the dedicated section unless they alter either the chip's TPD or the cooling in the MBP.
 
960M benchmarks >>>>>> 950M in games (FPS)
If you compare GDDR5 version of GTX960M to DDR3 version of 950M, then yes, 950M will look like crap.

If you will look for GDDR5 version of GTX 950 you will see it is 15% behind GTX 960M. Not 30-35% like it is for DDR3 version of GTX 950M.
 
Very interesting indeed. Looks rather thin to be a MBP though...Perhaps a 14 inch Macbook?

From the article:

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Really could be a 14" MB
It seems to thin to be a MBP but the screen is so big.
And the keyboard goes from edge to edge
 
From what I've been reading across multiple threads, the general consensus is that


1. a january announcement is unlikely: not impossible, but unlikely.

2. a processor upgraded mbp could come as early as feb or march

3. a total resdesign may have us waiting until june wwdc.


Is this a fair summary?
 
From what I've been reading across multiple threads, the general consensus is that


1. a january announcement is unlikely: not impossible, but unlikely.

2. a processor upgraded mbp could come as early as feb or march

3. a total resdesign may have us waiting until june wwdc.


Is this a fair summary?

Yes. But Apple might be working on a redesign already. We don't know. They have had this secret lab for creating better screens so who knows what to expect.

They will probably bring more than just new ports and a processor. I believe Apple will want to improve the machine in other ways too. The current rMBP's body design has been around for a long time and it's a perfect time to introduce a new body for the Pro's.

Compared to competitors, apple hasn't released anything 'new' for a long time in the rMBP's. SOME customers might notice the rMBP's don't have the 'latest' technologies and opt for a 'newer' windows machine (although it might not be as good/reliable/powerful/whatever).
So Apple might want to release something 'new', al be it just color options.
It's time for some change

But that's just my thoughts.
 
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It would be 950M if they go back to Nvidia. They have a TDP limit that the 960M exceeds. Its physics guys.

I would expect them to stay with AMD frankly though. Apple puts dGPU's in its laptops for professional apps, which means OpenCL. They really do not care about gaming.
so why Apple ever put Nvidia cards in the past? they don't care about openGL but they have macs with 650M or 750M etc
Like i said after 2 years they change the GPU manufacture
 
From what I've been reading across multiple threads, the general consensus is that


1. a january announcement is unlikely: not impossible, but unlikely.

2. a processor upgraded mbp could come as early as feb or march

3. a total resdesign may have us waiting until june wwdc.


Is this a fair summary?

Mmm, very likely indeed. I would rather put my hands on a processor-updated 15' mbpro with the present chassis than wait until june for a redesign.
June is soooooo far away!
 
From what I've been reading across multiple threads, the general consensus is that


1. a january announcement is unlikely: not impossible, but unlikely.

2. a processor upgraded mbp could come as early as feb or march

3. a total resdesign may have us waiting until june wwdc.


Is this a fair summary?
No this is not a fair summary. Those voicing a WWDC release are a clear minority. Most of us believe Jan-March is a probable timeframe.
 
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I still believe we won't be seeing a dGPU this time, mainly because the Iris Pro chip is likely (and I say likely, it might not be as good as rumoured) to have very similar performance to a dGPU that would fit the inside the TDP requirements of a MBP.
Since both Nvidia and AMD aren't planning to release any updated chips in the near(ish) future, what card could they put in that both outperforms Iris Pro 580 and remains inside the MBPs tight thermal requirements?
 
No this is not a fair summary. Those voicing a WWDC release are a clear minority. Most of us believe Jan-March is a probable timeframe.

Agreed. The WWDC has been a loose speculation, and only gaining some steam very recently. Most of us were banking on a Q4 2015 release but have settled for Q1 2016.

It'll be disappointing if we see Apple Watch 2 and iPhone 6c before any news of new laptops :/
 
Could we see very news-less and without much fanfare upgrade to Skylakes in January/February ( much like happened when Broadwell came in, not that much news about it) before total resdesign June/July?

Surely that's a decent way for Apple to maximize profits.
 
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Could we see very news-less and without much fanfare upgrade to Skylakes in January/February ( much like happened when Broadwell came in, not that much news about it) before total resdesign June/July?

Surely that's a decent way for Apple to maximize profits.

It could be, or at least that's what I'm hoping for.
I really don't care about redesign, new colors, slimmer body, or bezels.
I just want to buy a powerful, solid and upgraded laptop.
 
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Could we see very news-less and without much fanfare upgrade to Skylakes in January/February ( much like happened when Broadwell came in, not that much news about it) before total resdesign June/July?

Surely that's a decent way for Apple to maximize profits.

I highly doubt that would happen at this point. Maybe silent refresh early in the year and redesign in the fall, but I doubt that too. Pretty positive that they'll announce a refresh next time they talk about the MBP.
 
I highly doubt that would happen at this point. Maybe silent refresh early in the year and redesign in the fall, but I doubt that too. Pretty positive that they'll announce a refresh next time they talk about the MBP.
What exactly happened in the past when they decided to do a new design?
 
What exactly happened in the past when they decided to do a new design?
Either minor processor update early in the year, redesign late in the year or just redesign somewhere in the year and maybe a minor processor update later.

The timing this time suggests the latter. It would be a waste of time to upgrade to Broadwell, and there aren't going to be any better Skylake chips later in the year. There will probably just be a redesigned (hopefully) Macbook Pro in the first half of the year, and it will receive a minor refresh early next year.
 
Either minor processor update early in the year, redesign late in the year or just redesign somewhere in the year and maybe a minor processor update later.

The timing this time suggests the latter. It would be a waste of time to upgrade to Broadwell, and there aren't going to be any better Skylake chips later in the year. There will probably just be a redesigned (hopefully) Macbook Pro in the first half of the year, and it will receive a minor refresh early next year.
Well, usually they will had many rumors before any redesign happened in the past?
Skylake (mobile) might have one huge advantage, and that probably will be TDP.
Of course we don't expect huge performance boost even in next few years too, the golden age for CPUs performance boosts were already gone.
 
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I think many predicted a retina display for the 15 MBA and that didn't pan out.

What's unfortunate about apple's success then is that they can be very conservative with their upgrades and yet still make money hand over fist.

I have a '15 MBA and it's a fantastic computer. However, when I'm using it as a portable, it's to my slight chagrin that the MBA is nearly ubiguitous. :) This doesn't make the MBA any less fantastic; but there's no cache associated with it any longer.

Here's hoping for a homerun upgrade for the '16 MBP.
 
I think many predicted a retina display for the 15 MBA and that didn't pan out.

What's unfortunate about apple's success then is that they can be very conservative with their upgrades and yet still make money hand over fist.

I have a '15 MBA and it's a fantastic computer. However, when I'm using it as a portable, it's to my slight chagrin that the MBA is nearly ubiguitous. :) This doesn't make the MBA any less fantastic; but there's no cache associated with it any longer.

Here's hoping for a homerun upgrade for the '16 MBP.
Well time it's changing, I think Apple lost some of its visionary comparing the Jobs era. Their competitors start to knowing about what they're doing and Apple seems can't find a new way even it's still ahead than everyone body else.
 
I am wondering if here are still people who wants a new thinner and lighter and a more compact 17" Macbook Pro
i think they can make a nice device if they go that way, to keep in the 13" and 15" MBP only the iGPU and into the 17" to put dGPU like 960M or something, 2 usb-c, 1 thunderbolt 3 and with a 10h battery usage at least
but again the history tell us that Apple remove the idea to redesign/update the 17"
 
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