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1 - we have the leaked chassis
2 - we know about the OLED
3 - we know the type of CPUs that will be used
4 - we know the mechanism of the keyboard
5 - we know about the dGPU
6 - we know about new metal hinges

Geez, what's more?!
I want to know the source of the block of aluminum of the leaked MBP shell and which mine the Bauxite was mined from.

It brings Jony Ive and myself great, indescribable pleasure to know such erotic information.
 
Yeah, sure, Apple charges extra. That's nothing new, to be fair. My point was to show that not all SSDs are the same, or of equal quality (and price). You may find Samsung SSDs for that price, but that's going to be a 2.5'' SATA-SSD and not a M2 formfactor PCI-e enabled SSD. The differences not only in price, but in size and mainly performance are huge; PCIe SSDs are in some way to normal SSDs what normal SSDs are to HDDs. So, it's no fair (or logical) comparison to look at say a 850 Evo and a 950 Pro and say they are the same.

Are there M2-formfactor 2TB SSDs out yet? Samsung f.ex. only produces up to 1TB (https://tinkertry.com/samsung-960-pro-and-960-evo-and-SM961-m-2-nvme-announced), the only one I could find was a server model from Seagate that is comparably slow (http://www.anandtech.com/show/10517/seagate-expands-nytro-enterprise-ssd-family-with-2tb-m2-xm1440). So the question maybe is not if Apple wants to include a 2TB option, but if a 2TB option is technically possible at the time.
Besides skipping Skylake bugs, another reason for not updating the rMBP yet could have been an inability to offer 2TB.
 
With the rMB starting at 256, the 128 rMBP will likely go. That leaves room for 256/512/1TB, and maybe a 2 TB tier. I don't disagree that prices will remain outrageous, however.
Do people still use 256? That's like a 16Gb iPhone...

At this point, I don't even know if I want to give Apple my money. But they have me by the (metaphorical) balls. Ffs.
 
Serious question:

in the last few years, or ever, has Apple ever had an earnings call before an event but after the invites were sent out?

It seems odd to have an the earnings call in the middle of that limbo period, where it is obvious apple is going to release new products, but apple is still tight lipped on them. There would be an elephant in the room during the conference call, Apple will not mention products or changes that are happening during their predictions or QA. But everyone on the call investors and such will know that apple is going to unveil new products. in 48 hours

I only checked the October events but yes, it happened in 2010.

Apple October events:

Invite: October 9, 2008 - Thursday
Event: October 14, 2008
- Tuesday (+5 days)
Earnings: October 21, 2008 - Tuesday (+7 days)


Invite: --------
Event: --------
Earnings: October 19, 2009 - Monday


Invite: October 13, 2010 - Wednesday
Event: October 20, 2010 - Wednesday (+7 days)
Earnings: October 18, 2010 - Monday (-2 days)

Invite: --------

Event: --------
Earnings: October 18, 2011 - Tuesday


Invite: October 16, 2012 - Tuesday
Event: October 23, 2012 - Tuesday (+7 days)
Earnings: October 25, 2012 - Thursday (+2 days)

Invite: October 15, 2013 - Tuesday

Event: October 22, 2013 - Tuesday (+7 days)
Earnings: October 28, 2013 - Monday (+6 days)

Invite: October 8, 2014 - Wednesday
Event: October 16, 2014 - Thursday (+8 days)
Earnings: October 20, 2014 - Monday (+4 days)

Invite: --------
Event: --------
Earnings: October 27, 2015 - Tuesday

Invite: ????????
Event: ????????
Earnings: October 27, 2016 - Thursday (Rescheduled: October 25, 2016 - Tuesday)
 
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Apple's doing this on purpose. The longer we have to wait, the more we are willing to pay any price :(
I mean, How many of us will buy a full maxed out 15"?
 
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Apple's doing this on purpose. The longer we have to wait, the more we are willing to pay any price :(
I mean, How many of us will buy a full maxed out 15"?
No, because as noted on the front page Mac Sales Continue to Slide Amid Lack of Updates people are buying other computers instead of Macs. Apple isn't trying to artificially increase demand to justify a price increase, because most consumers are not waiting. They want a new computer, and they see Apple's design as dated, if they did any sort of research they'll see the computers haven't been updated to the latest chipsets at all. They may not know the names, i.e., skylake, vs broadwell, vs. haswell, but they probably are aware that apple hasn't done much.

This is what happens when a bean counter like Cook squeezes the life out of products.
 
Next month!?!?!?!? What the fish, we were promised Pros this month, and I want them this month!!!!!

It will be this month, re read the article and they hyper link "MacBook Pro" for the report they're referring to,
Click it and it takes you to the report which states "arriving in October" looks to be an honest genuine mistake
 
Apple Mac shipments slide 13% in Q3

All was totally preventable. If this was any other tech company, someone would have been fired over this.
Other tech companies release new products just to boost sales that quarter, without a vision for what the product or update should be. I am glad Apple is following the Orson Wellesian strategy of releasing once the product is finished.

Even if its boring to wait so long.
 
Do people still use 256? That's like a 16Gb iPhone...

At this point, I don't even know if I want to give Apple my money. But they have me by the (metaphorical) balls. Ffs.

At least for software development + music through cloud music services for me would be enough.
 
Other tech companies release new products just to boost sales that quarter, without a vision for what the product or update should be. I am glad Apple is following the Orson Wellesian strategy of releasing once the product is finished.

Even if its boring to wait so long.
I give you that, but we're not talking about quarters, but rather years and for that, there's no excuse.
 
Do a lot of people genuinely believe that most people who use macs need a top of the range 15" MBP. The vast vast majority of users would be perfectly fine with a 13" MBP from 2 years ago. The current top of the line 15" MBP is powerful enough for 95% of people who use macs.

If you do something ridiculously intensive you will always need the power of a high spec desktop machine as your primary computer if not more. I will get a new MBP when they are finally released but it won't be the top of the line one because I won't use the power in day to day use. I have an iMac for all my development needs at the moment and the macbook will be a tool to use on the go.

Some will want the top spec but very few compared to those who will get the midrange or base model.

Its like the iPhone. My 6 is still really fast for pretty much everything I use it for. The 7 would be quicker and have a better camera etc but I don't need that and nor do most people. Want and need are two very different things when it comes to PCs and phones.
 
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I'm curious to see what they'll do design-wise with the new MacBook Pros. Marc Newson is now on Apple's design team alongside Jony Ive and I wonder what kind of input he's had (if any) into the design of the upcoming laptops.

I'm kinda hoping that they don't stick to the exact same design and not do anything except have them available in different colours because that's just not enough lol
 
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Other tech companies release new products just to boost sales that quarter, without a vision for what the product or update should be. I am glad Apple is following the Orson Wellesian strategy of releasing once the product is finished.

Even if its boring to wait so long.

You are implying the Apple under Steve Jobs was without vision.

And I should be able to go to my boss and tell him that it will take 10 times longer to complete my tasks, because I am a man with vision.

This is a company with vision.
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What a load of BS.
 
Do a lot of people genuinely believe that most people who use macs need a top of the range 15" MBP. The vast vast majority of users would be perfectly fine with a 13" MBP from 2 years ago. The current top of the line 15" MBP is powerful enough for 95% of people who use macs

True, some people here should be looking at render farms, not laptops.

However, there are still times when no amount of processing power is enough. My MAC was tied up for 10 hours yesterday recoding videos in Handbrake, for example. Fortunately this is a rare event for me.

I'll be ordering a 15" screen, 512GB SSD, and whatever minimum CPU/GPU power I need to display 4K video at 60 fps on the laptop screen and on an external monitor.
 
Sorry, no offence, but this is, simply put, ********:
Do a lot of people genuinely believe that most people who use macs need a top of the range 15" MBP. The vast vast majority of users would be perfectly fine with a 13" MBP from 2 years ago. The current top of the line 15" MBP is powerful enough for 95% of people who use macs.

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I keep reading posts like these and I assume that whoever writes this has a somewhat "modern" MBP in front of him.
I don't for one. I have an early 2011 MPB with a dGPU, replaced the HDD with a SSD, added more RAM and am doing fairly well. But this computer is starting to feel as old as it is. I could use a replacement. And YES, the 2015 rMBP would suit me just fine - except that I'm not willing to pay the price Apple is asking for it.
In my opinion the price is a real rip off!
I believe Apple's products are worth the money when they are up to 1/2 a year old. After that they should adjust the prices. Since they don't, I don't buy the products they offer if they are older than 1/2 a year. It's the way I do it.
And when I started looking for a replacement early last year there was nothing. Then came the 2015 rMBP with no real updates - so I figured I'd wait until Q4 2015 - believing they might update the CPU / chipset. I wasn't going to buy "old" hardware at Apple's prices then and I won't now.
But I bet you're not buying that old hardware either, are you?
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Sorry about that, but it really p*sses me off to read these posts. Don't assume everyone has the same hardware you do. And from reading this thread I know there are many people who have even older MacBooks than mine they'd like to replace. So it's fair to assume they are waiting because they don't wan't to pay the Apple price for the hardware they got (a lot of which is from 2014 btw).
 
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