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Every time I have to use a Windows device I die a little inside.

I'm more than happy to wait for a new Mac, just because I know if I do grab a Windows machine, it'll be all singing and dancing for all of 5 minutes, and I'd regret it after 6 months. Meanwhile a Mac I'm happy with for many years.
 
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1 month of my laptop's return policy has passed today. 2 months left. if not october, then november still works for me, i guess. but apple doesn't do november, huh? nor december. so then March? my return policy expires till then. which means i can do 1 of 2 things:

1. return this windows within the return policy and get a current mbp
2. return this windows, go to another costco, get another different one, and get 3 more months of return policy lenience on that one, which should last me to right about march.
 
amirite said:
I'd do the same if there was actually any real competition with hw/sw.
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The hardware isn't the problem. It's the OS. I really like Mac OS and it's going to be hard to switch back to Windows. Pfft...

The next step : IPhone switch to Google pixel because of the loss of the advantage from everything synced ( MacBook pro, iPhone, iPad, iWatch)
 
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mahcus36 said:
1 month of my laptop's return policy has passed today. 2 months left. if not october, then november still works for me, i guess. but apple doesn't do november, huh? nor december. so then March? my return policy expires till then. which means i can do 1 of 2 things:

1. return this windows within the return policy and get a current mbp
2. return this windows, go to another costco, get another different one, and get 3 more months of return policy lenience on that one, which should last me to right about march.
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3 month return policy? Wow!
 
IndigoDesign said:
I do see a change in how software approaches workloads. I'm working in InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop most of the time. I generate a lot of print-PDFs and sometimes those PDFs are huge catalogues and brochures. A few versions in the past I couldn't use InDesign while it was processing a PDF. Now I can keep using it while it converts the PDF in the background. This eliminated the need to have a super-fast-cpu for processing a PDF imho.

Because when you're waiting to continue working, 1 minute until a print-PDF is done, is long. But when it's running in the background and just silently uploading to printer's ftp-drive without me taking notice, I don't care if it's compiling 1 minute, 2 or even 3.

The key thing is to keep the work-flow fluid. Obviously this doesn't fit everyone's use-case. I can imagine things are different when you're waiting for photoshop to apply a 30-step action onto your 25 mpixel photography of the milky way or you're trying to work on a multi-layer, effectladen After Effects Project.

Still, I think a lot can be done through optimization of Software.

When the next generation of storage media is ready, it will be so fast, RAM and your harddrive will merge into one unit, I am sure. Virtual Memory will just be as fast as RAM.

What I try to say is: Maybe they want us to "take a hit on brute force performance" because that's the way the industry is moving forward. Maybe we shouldn't expect a MBP to be somewhere near as powerful as a desktop for half the price. Maybe for portability we need to pay a much bigger performance-price.

Do I like this development?
Heck no!
But hey who knows... can you guys remember when MP3s came along? When we could convert our HUGE wav-collection to a fraction (about a 10th) of the size by using MP3 format? Maybe software can be further optimized so that much of an oomph processor-wise isn't even needed.

Sometime.
In the future.
Or not.
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Yeah, I remember working at a Post Process Photo Lab, we used to have 4 main machines, 3 x PowerMac 9500 and a Win 3 PC for Postscript Rips, (a fifth machine a VAX). I ran the graveyard shift, and with my cigarettes, you want to know what the IDLE TIME of ALL those machines were, the 4 (because the VAX was just an LVT loader)?

I would say the idle % of all those machines was about 10%. I was flipping 400MB TIFFs like pizzas. I would scan a 200-300 MB photo, photo retouch, replace in Quark, rip a postscript file, scan another photo, meanwhile transferring over ethernet, send the postscript to the Win 3.11, open the 2nd scan, take the ripped ps from WIN, open in Photoshop, export to the external SCSI shuttle drive, and repeat the whole process, and sneak a 7 minute smoke in, then go back and keep the cycle running.

4-5 machines with them all doing at least 70-90% processor usage. practically NO IDLE TIME.

You know what the IDLE time of macs are today? Well I got about 6 machines on at home and I am probably looking at 85% idle time.

That's why when I hear about people bitching about a 10-15% speed increase blah blah blah. I am like this crap doesn't mean anything! Yeah you want something to be 20 seconds quicker, yeah yeah...

We have it SOOOO good nowadays! Believe me.

I could have my new 2015/15 rMBP run that total workload four times over and just export to a USB Flash Drive! Easily and still browse this THREAD. HEHE.

Seriously, if you think the macs we have today, just aren't powerful enough for whatever workload you have, man what are you doing, and who is your JERK boss that demands work be completed on the hour every hour...

Not to mention you can get 2 or 3 machines going...

I don't know I am rambling maybe, but man, you gotta look at all the pieces and the CRASH POTENTIAL! That's all that really matters, even if you are JUST PLAYING GAMES...
 
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mahcus36 said:
1 month of my laptop's return policy has passed today. 2 months left. if not october, then november still works for me, i guess. but apple doesn't do november, huh? nor december. so then March? my return policy expires till then. which means i can do 1 of 2 things:

1. return this windows within the return policy and get a current mbp
2. return this windows, go to another costco, get another different one, and get 3 more months of return policy lenience on that one, which should last me to right about march.
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If only Costco sold MacBooks
 
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Rob_2811 said:
They could easily open the developer tools up to other platforms. Anyway Rene Ritchie in New York, briefing?
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Exactly they could.

Points others have made that the Mac is still driving billions of dollars of profit and revenue for the company is true. But it's a shrinking market, and Apple is always focused on the future - not clinging onto the past draining ever last dollar possible. There's no doubt they have shifted their attention away from Macs because the market for traditional computers continues to shrink, and we're nowhere near the bottom yet.

I don't think what will be unveiled is going to excuse how long it has taken them to refresh the Mac line. I think deep down we all know why it has taken them so long to bother pushing out these updates. And if anyone thinks we're suddenly going to see a stream of timely refreshes of the MBP in the future they are just setting themselves up for more disappointment.
 
rezwits said:
Yeah, I remember working at a Post Process Photo Lab, we used to have 4 main machines, 3 x PowerMac 9500 and a Win 3 PC for Postscript Rips, (a fifth machine a VAX). I ran the graveyard shift, and with my cigarettes, you want to know what the IDLE TIME of ALL those machines were, the 4 (because the VAX was just an LVT loader)?

I would say the idle % of all those machines was about 10%. I was flipping 400MB TIFFs like pizzas. I would scan a 200-300 MB photo, photo retouch, replace in Quark, rip a postscript file, scan another photo, meanwhile transferring over ethernet, send the postscript to the Win 3.11, open the 2nd scan, take the ripped ps from WIN, open in Photoshop, export to the external SCSI shuttle drive, and repeat the whole process, and sneak a 7 minute smoke in, then go back and keep the cycle running.

4-5 machines with them all doing at least 70-90% processor usage. practically NO IDLE TIME.

You know what the IDLE time of macs are today? Well I got about 6 machines on at home and I am probably looking at 85% idle time.

That's why when I hear about people bitching about a 10-15% speed increase blah blah blah. I am like this crap doesn't mean anything! Yeah you want something to be 20 seconds quicker, yeah yeah...

We have it SOOOO good nowadays! Believe me.

I could have my new 2015/15 rMBP run that total workload four times over and just export to a USB Flash Drive! Easily and still browse this THREAD. HEHE.

Seriously, if you think the macs we have today, just aren't powerful enough for whatever workload you have, man what are you doing, and who is your JERK boss that demands work be completed on the hour every hour...

Not to mention you can get 2 or 3 machines going...

I don't know I am rambling maybe, but man, you gotta look at all the pieces and the CRASH POTENTIAL! That's all that really matters, even if you are JUST PLAYING GAMES...
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Everything you said is irrelevant. Intel makes faster processors at the same price point every year. Yet three years later we have neither faster processors or lower price points.
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dumastudetto said:
Exactly they could.

Points others have made that the Mac is still driving billions of dollars of profit and revenue for the company is true. But it's a shrinking market, and Apple is always focused on the future - not clinging onto the past draining ever last dollar possible. There's no doubt they have shifted their attention away from Macs because the market for traditional computers continues to shrink, and we're nowhere near the bottom yet.

I don't think what will be unveiled is going to excuse how long it has taken them to refresh the Mac line. I think deep down we all know why it has taken them so long to bother pushing out these updates. And if anyone thinks we're suddenly going to see a stream of timely refreshes of the MBP in the future they are just setting themselves up for more disappointment.
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iPad is shrinking too, they're still making those.
 
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Ruelens said:
The hardware isn't the problem. It's the OS. I really like Mac OS and it's going to be hard to switch back to Windows. Pfft...

The next step : IPhone switch to Google pixel because of the loss of the advantage from everything synced ( MacBook pro, iPhone, iPad, iWatch)
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I fully agree with you. Apple works because you can sync your devices and have all advantages when you stay in the MacOS/iOS environment with all your devices.
Apple will not cannibalize themselves by discontinuing Macs/MBPs. This would harm other devices significantly very soon. I'm not saying that Macs will be there forever but tablets are not yet there to replace PCs completely.

I will never switch back to a new Windows machine, if I have a choice. Never had a more reliable PC/Laptop as my first (and not last) MBP. For me and a whole generation (think about all the students working on MBs/MBP/MBA) Windows PCs are simply no longer a real option.

Oh and not to forget the new OSX... Why should Apple proceed with a new release in case they would have decided to not refresh the Mac lineup.

Apple... can you hear me? You better send out the invites now!
 
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shareef777 said:
Everything you said is irrelevant. Intel makes faster processors at the same price point every year. Yet three years later we have neither faster processors or lower price points.
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iPad is shrinking too, they're still making those.
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Yes, but they have slowed down refreshing new iPads too in recent times.
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RobCoenen said:
Report: Apple to hold event to unveil new Macs on October 27th in Cupertino
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The actual source of that article Recode is usually golden.

I'm now 100% sure this is happening on the 27th with an event.
 
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maclaw21 said:
Fair points. Do we really think that they're going to haul media out to CA for a 30-minute presentation on a laptop? And as an investor, I care less about the presentation and more about the results. Assuming they do not do anything crazy with pricing, these new MBPs will sell like hotcakes.
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They could talk about a lot more things to fill in time. Software. Features. Other products possibly (appletv4k..cough...cough)
 
Following last night’s report that new Macs are still on track for this month, Recode now reports that Apple is planning to hold an event on October 27th to announce its latest lineup.



The report cites unnamed sources and claims that the event will take place “at or near” Apple’s Cupertino campus, not in San Fransisco where other recent events have been held.

While we’re still waiting for Apple itself to send out invites, it’s all-but-confirmed at this point that new Macs are coming this month. Apple will likely send out press invites at some point this week, perhaps as early as tomorrow.

Last night’s report claimed that Apple plans to introduce a new MacBook Pro that drops MagSafe and USB-A in favor of all USB-C connectivity. Additionally, the report claimed that Apple will discontinue the 11-inch MacBook Air, which could mean a price cutis coming for the 12-inch MacBook and 13-inch MacBook Air.

Recode’s report corroborates earlier speculation that Apple did in fact move its Q4 earnings call to make room for a Mac event. Apple was originally scheduled to hold its earnings call on October 27th, but later moved the call up to October 25th, leaving many to wonder if the change was due to the scheduling of a press event for Macs.
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https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/18/repo...unveil-new-macs-on-october-27th-in-cupertino/
 
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NEW RECODE REPORT

THE 27TH IS SALVATION

"Apple will likely send out press invites at some point this week, perhaps as early as tomorrow."

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