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Floridaggie said:
I'm an architect that uses my 15" MBP for work. I have been patiently tracking this thread since the 15" MBP is the only laptop that adequately runs Autodesk software in Mac (AutoCAD) and Windows (AutoCAD Architecture, Revit). You could run AutoCAD for Mac on the 13" form factor, but I would not recommend Revit on that device.

I previously used Revit on Parallels, but found that the program performed better with full access to the hardware (Bootcamp) rather than sharing it as a VM. Quad core is less critical with Revit, but having access to the best graphics is key. There are no workstation class graphics offerings on Macs despite the "Pro" name and none I'm aware of that have been "approved" by Autodesk for use with their software in Windows via Bootcamp/VMware.

There's another option, but it comes with a cost. You could host Revit on a remote system in the cloud, such as Frame, and use that on the 13" MBP. We've considered that option since it would allow remote access to the central file by multiple users and is more flexible regarding the device you're accessing it from. Hope that helps!
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I guess I'm going for the 15in. I used auto cad with a little lag on my 2012 MBA with 4gb of ram for a couple years now. Been waiting for the switch to revit.

Also what is everyone need all these dongles for? I have a external hd hooked up to my router for tm backups. Key and mouse are wireless. Don't use flash drives anymore since everything's on cloud. I don't use my camera 99% of the time anymore so don't really need a sd reader. The only thing would be is maybe a external monitor for me. Is there anything I'm missing?
 
thefauxtography said:
is there any reason they wouldn't use OLED for the primary display as well? Cost? I'm not familiar with the tech.
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Compared to LCD which lights the whole display using a backlight OLED displays have a light source in each sub-pixel which means that black pixels are completely turned of. This results in very deep blacks and "infinite" contrast.

Cost would be a reason but OLED displays in the 15" size are not nearly as expensive as the large TV:s that LG is producing. The cost has come down tremendously during the past years.

Then we have color accuracy, maximum brightness, etc. Which in case of the smartphone displays have caught up to (at least last year's) LCD displays, and in the case of brightness surpassed LCD displays. (1000 nits on Apple Watch 2 and new HDR TVs).

But, OLED pixels tend to degrade in light intensity the more they are used. This happens to the blue sub-pixels more than others which could lead to color differences in the display. If you have a blue icon in the dock, the sub-pixels there will loose their light intensity and it can "burn-in" to the display. So it is basically not recommended to have static elements always show up at the same place. This happens even in the newer phone displays, like the (exploding) Note 7 that has an always on display where everything on the screen is moving around slightly just to avoid any display damage.

It's gonna be interesting to see how Apple avoids pixel degradation and burn-in in the OLED touch bar.
 
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htc fan said:
Now when will BB be getting the new macs... someone pull a magic number from their ass or something lol
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BB had the new Macbook 12in the week after Apple released them, they're an authorized retailer so I would expect no longer than a couple of weeks before they would get them
 
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GubbyMan said:
Compared to LCD which lights the whole display using a backlight OLED displays have a light source in each sub-pixel which means that black pixels are completely turned of. This results in very deep blacks and "infinite" contrast.

Cost would be a reason but OLED displays in the 15" size are not nearly as expensive as the large TV:s that LG is producing. The cost has come down tremendously during the past years.

Then we have color accuracy, maximum brightness, etc. Which in case of the smartphone displays have caught up to (at least last year's) LCD displays, and in the case of brightness surpassed LCD displays. (1000 nits on Apple Watch 2 and new HDR TVs).

But, OLED pixels tend to degrade in light intensity the more they are used. This happens to the blue sub-pixels more than others which could lead to color differences in the display. If you have a blue icon in the dock, the sub-pixels there will loose their light intensity and it can "burn-in" to the display. So it is basically not recommended to have static elements always show up at the same place. This happens even in the newer phone displays, like the (exploding) Note 7 that has an always on display where everything on the screen is moving around slightly just to avoid any display damage.

It's gonna be interesting to see how Apple avoids pixel degradation and burn-in in the OLED touch bar.
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Those are the reasons I don't want an OLED display on the MacBook yet, not until the technology improves and the costs are down. Plus, as someone into photography, I care more about color accuracy than I do about bright, saturated colors (that seems to be a draw of the Samsung phones but I was never too wowed by the displays; they seem a bit over-saturated).
 
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Bo15 said:
Retiring the 15" mid 2009 for a 15" with max ram, fastest CPU w iGPU, and SSD 512+
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could you describe your daily usage of the macbook? I am currently debating on whether to upgrade from the standard 8gb of ram to 16gb. Im probably going to keep this computer for atleast 5 years but im still unsure if 16gb is worth it. I dont do any vms or photo editing. I do some 4k iphone video editing but thats about it. I do tend to have multiple windows of safari open in multiple spaces, with itunes/word/handbrake/skype all running in the background. What do you think? save $180 or upgrade to 16gb since im keeping it for 5+ years?
 
ThisBougieLife said:
Those are the reasons I don't want an OLED display on the MacBook yet, not until the technology improves and the costs are down. Plus, as someone into photography, I care more about color accuracy than I do about bright, saturated colors (that seems to be a draw of the Samsung phones but I was never too wowed by the displays; they seem a bit over-saturated).
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OLED screens are the most accurate, I'm hoping apple uses them though for profit / cost reasons they won't. You may be thinking of AMOLED
 
So, assuming that the Esc key is going away, anyone have any ideas of how to map the ~ key to Esc (~ being the capitalized version, but more easily recognized on the keyboard as opposed to the backtick)? There doesn't appear to be a way to do it from the System Prefs GUI, but how involved would it be to do such a thing? Does anyone know of an app, script, command utility to deal with this? Spending a huge chunk of my day in vim and on the command line without an Esc key is going to be pretty >_<.
 
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Pahanda said:
Now the invites are out, what are your final hardware guesses?
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13in: $1500 base. skylake processor 28w. 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, 1080p facetime camera, no backlit logo, 4 usb c, no mag safe, 10 hr battery, 4 colors.

15in: $2200 base. skylake processor 45w. 16gb ram (upgrade also to 32gb), 512ssd, 1080p facetime, no backlit logo, 4 usb c, no mag safe, 9 hr battery. 4 colors
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jsagurton said:
So, assuming that the Esc key is going away, anyone have any ideas of how to map the ~ key to Esc (~ being the capitalized version, but more easily recognized on the keyboard as opposed to the backtick)? There doesn't appear to be a way to do it from the System Prefs GUI, but how involved would it be to do such a thing? Does anyone know of an app, script, command utility to deal with this? Spending a huge chunk of my day in vim and on the command line without an Esc key is going to be pretty >_<.
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all about courage to not have an esc key
 
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Mkondrak said:
could you describe your daily usage of the macbook? I am currently debating on whether to upgrade from the standard 8gb of ram to 16gb.
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Do it.

If I could upgrade to 16 GB on my 2010 MacBook then I wouldn't need to upgrade as bad. 8 is just not enough.
 
Mkondrak said:
could you describe your daily usage of the macbook? I am currently debating on whether to upgrade from the standard 8gb of ram to 16gb. Im probably going to keep this computer for atleast 5 years but im still unsure if 16gb is worth it. I dont do any vms or photo editing. I do some 4k iphone video editing but thats about it. I do tend to have multiple windows of safari open in multiple spaces, with itunes/word/handbrake/skype all running in the background. What do you think? save $180 or upgrade to 16gb since im keeping it for 5+ years?
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If you plan on using it for 5+ years and it's your daily driver, I'd recomment 16GB.
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jsagurton said:
So, assuming that the Esc key is going away, anyone have any ideas of how to map the ~ key to Esc (~ being the capitalized version, but more easily recognized on the keyboard as opposed to the backtick)? There doesn't appear to be a way to do it from the System Prefs GUI, but how involved would it be to do such a thing? Does anyone know of an app, script, command utility to deal with this? Spending a huge chunk of my day in vim and on the command line without an Esc key is going to be pretty >_<.
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Wait a minute. You use vim and you haven't rebinded caps lock to esc??
Use Karabiner Elements if you're on Sierra
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key
 
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