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dk808 said:
The problem I heard is that you cant really turn the gpu on or off manually. So if theres a program like Chrome or some other app turns on the dgpu for some reason then its just unnecessary fan noise and heat. My friend has this issue with Ableton Live and it pisses him off
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I feel for your friend, but I think you may be overstating this problem. Have had my rMBP with dGPU for four years and literally never seen this.
 
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The problem I heard is that you cant really turn the gpu on or off manually. So if theres a program like Chrome or some other app turns on the dgpu for some reason then its just unnecessary fan noise and heat. My friend has this issue with Ableton Live and it pisses him off
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The option to turn off and of is in the system preferences under energy. Also they have separate apps you can get to control it from the top right menu. I got it so I wasn't stuck with the sad shared memory that it would have been stuck with and I feel it increase its life considerably.

I'm hoping that we get between 4-8gb of VRAM for the dGPU then there will be know way for the iGPU to compare to it.
 
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Murgatroyd314 said:
Realistically, a Macbook Pro will never, RELATIVELY, be as portable as a Macbook Air. That doesn't mean people all prefer the Air over the Pro. It's a matter of tradeoffs, and there are quite a few people who would love the power of a 17" model, and still find it portable enough.
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wait won't the new MacBook Pro be the same thickness as the 12in MacBook just not tapered? and at 2.5lbs that has been rumored the new 13in MacBook Pro could really be as portable as the MacBook Air.
 
Murgatroyd314 said:
Realistically, a Macbook Pro will never, RELATIVELY, be as portable as a Macbook Air. That doesn't mean people all prefer the Air over the Pro. It's a matter of tradeoffs, and there are quite a few people who would love the power of a 17" model, and still find it portable enough.
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Whether people prefer the trade-off for power/portability is another discussion. However the other user's reply implied that portability is relative, while I've clarified that its relativity has a scope, and it will never be as portable, as say, a 12" or 13" laptop, which is basically what you're saying anyways.
 
powertoold said:
The iPhone 7 would like to have a talk with you :)

There's literally no way Apple is changing the display sizes. There would have been rumors about it by now.
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Display sizes, no. Bezels, maybe. But if it is a true tone, probably not. Apparently the sensors in the iPad are pretty large.
 
powertoold said:
I would be floored if the new 15 mbp is 3.8 pounds or less. FLOORED.
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I'm actually doubtful that the 15in will go that low. the 2011 non retina 15mbp weight 5.6 lbs. when the retina came out it was a full pound less at 4.49 lbs. but look at what they removed: the dvd drive, Ethernet and other ports, the hard drive and made it hard to open. that's a lot of stuff. I don't think Apple will be able to shave a whole pound again.
 
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shareef777 said:
This is why I see Apple getting away from the MacPro. They're undeniably a consumer company more then anything else. They have a form over function mentality which doesn't bode well for the corporate/work environment.
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And remember the Mac Pros were made in Texas, not China. The profit margins must've been considerably lower
 
Tayljones6 said:
I would get a 17" without a second thought. And it would be easier to make it more powerful, I would max that sucker out.

I don't know why all the hate on dGPUs. I have my late 2008 which was the first to have it and have had zero issues. I hardly ever used it for the first few years then I turned that puppy on and really speed my laptop up.
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I heard of driver issues with dGPUs; I've never actually had a Mac with a dGPU yet. Even the iMac I had briefly this summer was an iGPU. So this will be my first Mac with a dGPU. Hope I don't encounter the issues that others have with past ones.
 
Tayljones6 said:
I would get a 17" without a second thought. And it would be easier to make it more powerful, I would max that sucker out.

I don't know why all the hate on dGPUs. I have my late 2008 which was the first to have it and have had zero issues. I hardly ever used it for the first few years then I turned that puppy on and really speed my laptop up.
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It might be ATI/AMD...
 
shareef777 said:
I'm guessing mods will close this thread on Thursday/Friday as we won't be able to discuss any rumors or potentials cause the product will be out and fully vetted. There'll be zero point to this thread except for historical value. But I'm definitely going to the just ordered thread for the after party!
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Dang you're right, this thread is gonna die and be closed, like Sunday...

Well that's not true, cause until people actually get them in their hands? Trailing thread???
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Uni Grad said:
This is an authentic print screen.

Germayne lol.
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I saw that, dude on a twit.tv clip real quick, and was "Hey that's that dude from MacRumors!" Then I came back to the site, and was like "No way that's the Bloomberg dude?" and then I was "NO."

Haha, Bill Gates is funnier tho...
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Tayljones6 said:
The option to turn off and of is in the system preferences under energy. Also they have separate apps you can get to control it from the top right menu. I got it so I wasn't stuck with the sad shared memory that it would have been stuck with and I feel it increase its life considerably.

I'm hoping that we get between 4-8gb of VRAM for the dGPU then there will be know way for the iGPU to compare to it.
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I just think "The Industry" is going to solve the whole GPU problem with eGPUs, it just looks like this is what's up... because you just can't get a required desktop class GPU in a laptop right now, the limits always get pushed up every 6 months with a new game release...

I mean what is it? $500 $600 just to add a dGPU to MacBook Pro? but you get a 512 instead of 256 SSD?
 
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So if you're quick as hell and order the MBP BTO as soon as it goes live how long of a wait till it arrives? 2 weeks? Less? More?
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rezwits said:
This is just a tip:

Due to the conflicts of having dual GPUs (dGPU and iGPU) if I were to get a rMBP (Late 2016) I would go for the iGPU only model.

Now I know this may sound like a headache, but if the prices are right and the dGPU is good, then sure go for it, BUT, I have been looking at some of these eGPU Rigs and man I gotta say TB2/3 is gonna be sick for all of us if we still want to do PC gaming.

I mean you can get an eGPU box with two Titan 1080s and connect to your Mac Pro or rMBP all the way down to MacBook Air, TB2 looks ready and TB3 coming or already here too.

I don't quite know but if you could find a PCIe 3.0 expansion chassis that would be S(L)ICK for like 10 years!

Think about having an iGPU for web browsing having fun doing simple stuff, and then every one to two years, if you guys like getting 2 new NVIDIA gaming GPUs and plopping them in, going thru the configuration and drivers, and loading up.

Thing is this seems to be the future of GPUs, honestly they keep getting updated so quickly (like yearly).

But you could disconnect from the GPU power house and then go back to couch with just the iGPU, no bugs no GPU switching etc.

I'd go for the iGPU only... (unless the dGPU is just SICK or BOSS) :p

Laters...
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Seems like loads of people are trying to preach and warn people off to keep stock levels from being absolutely ravaged ;)or maybe I'm being paranoid
 
Guys, would you say the 13" 4k display is too small to be worth it?

EDIT: Assuming it has a 4k display, but even otherwise, what are your guys' experience with the 13"?
 
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rezwits said:
Dang you're right, this thread is gonna die and be closed, like Sunday...

Well that's not true, cause until people actually get them in their hands? Trailing thread???
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I saw that, dude on a twit.tv clip real quick, and was "Hey that's that dude from MacRumors!" Then I came back to the site, and was like "No way that's the Bloomberg dude?" and then I was "NO."

Haha, Bill Gates is funnier tho...
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I just think "The Industry" is going to solve the whole GPU problem with eGPUs, it just looks like this is what's up... because you just can't get a required desktop class GPU in a laptop right now, the limits always get pushed up every 6 months with a new game release...

I mean what is it? $500 $600 just to add a dGPU to MacBook Pro? but you get a 512 instead of 256 SSD?
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The dGPU is worth it one thousand percent. Try using premiere pro for basic tasks on a 13" - it's infuriatingly bad whereas my 750m makes it a lot more manageable even today. OpenCL and CUDA bring export times hugely down as well.

You may not need one, but integrated only with a giant box required for performance is not the way I want to go. Sure, eGPUs are a great idea, but there's absolutely no reason Apple can't put a mobile 1070 into the 15", especially with competitors doing it in similarly sized devices. That new razer blade has a desktop i7 6700 and a 1080 in a frame just as thin - no reason we can't do mobile CPU and 1070 in the 15".
 
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Westbrook0 said:
Guys, would you say the 13" 4k display is too small to be worth it?

EDIT: Assuming it has a 4k display, but even otherwise, what are your guys' experience with the 13"?
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Depends, how close is your face to the screen? If you're like me, and have your face 4 inches from the screen, then it absolutely makes a tremendous difference.
 
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fs454 said:
The dGPU is worth it one thousand percent. Try using premiere pro for basic tasks on a 13" - it's infuriatingly bad whereas my 750m makes it a lot more manageable even today. OpenCL and CUDA bring export times hugely down as well.

You may not need one, but integrated only with a giant box required for performance is not the way I want to go. Sure, eGPUs are a great idea, but there's absolutely no reason Apple can't put a mobile 1070 into the 15", especially with competitors doing it in similarly sized devices. That new razer blade has a desktop i7 6700 and a 1080 in a frame just as thin - no reason we can't do mobile CPU and 1070 in the 15".
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Wouldn't the MacBooks overheat with such strong gpus? I agree with you though. I'd rather they sacrifice size/weight for more performance
 
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