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Only if it's soldered onto a desk and taking out the core essence of what makes a laptop a laptop, portability. Imagine taking out a 17" laptop, whose total empirical volume increase is greater than the increase from 13" to 15", anywhere where portability is remotely necessary. -shudders-

The 15" already technically has that problem - My 15" rMBP already has trouble in certain situations, especially airplanes and some college chair-desk combos in classrooms. A person who buys a larger laptop understands this. Not every place where "portability is remotely necessary" is the size of an Airplane tray table.

Portability is relative - For the performance the 17" Razer Blade offers, I consider it quite portable. I can take a laptop with the performance of desktop GTX 1080 to school, library, class, or lab. Saying a 17" takes away the essence of a laptop is about as idiotic as saying 15" takes away the essence as well and that the 13" is the only 'true' portable machine, when I see some students carrying PC laptops 2-3 times as thick and heavy.
 
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12" MacBook and 13", 15" and 17" MacBook Pros would be the perfect lineup

That's what I was wondering: how many of the 15" folks would be getting a 17" if it were offered? Let's say, with 32 GB of RAM and a 4K screen?

I probably wouldn't, as enticing as it sounds, because it would cross the line into not being portable enough. 15" is a perfect balance between desktop replacement and portability.
 
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just curious but how was your experience with the 12in MacBook? did you notice that it was slow at all? I know the new MacBook Pro is coming out and will have a much more powerful processor but could the 12in still work for you?


I'd be happy to share with you my one week experience with rMB! I was going to include it on that post but figured it would've ended up being a huge paragraph. Now note that because I only had it for one week, I'm really not the one to consult if you want a good feedback...but I can share my two cents.

I had the 2016 m3 model, and MAYBE I was just unlucky or maybe OS X issues? (It wasn't upgraded to Sierra), but I was lagging really bad on YouTube and just scrolling browsers in general after having 3-4 tabs open. It was really frustrating and I was actually having freezing issues on Safari throughout my time with the machine. No issues when using word processors, speaker is I think better than my (broken) 2015 rMBP. This thing is so light and small it's perfect for an university setting if you're in school still like me.
I really only use my laptop for word processing and internet browsing, so aside from the hiccups it was a nice experience because it's insanely portable. I'm sure my lag issues are just personal as I know people who are using the same laptop for much more demanding stuff and they aren't lagging. The only reason I returned it for the rMBP is because I'm one of those people who claims "they'll get into video editing or photo editing and never really do but want the flexibility anyway," and want that option.. I'd say if you get the rMB get the m5 and I think even that machine can handle the aforementioned if I'm not wrong.


The keyboard was tolerable but I find myself misspelling words here and there because they are so shallow.. I hope the new rMBP don't come with the same kind of keyboard.. :-(
 
Hey guys! Quick question for you experts. I'm aiming to get the 15" MBP maxed out, which I know is usually a BTO configuration. (I do lots of graphics/3D work and will take every ounce of power I can get while on the road!)

Does anyone know if Apple historically stocks popular BTO configurations (as I imagine this would be) in any of their retail stores? I'm talking about stores in big markets like NYC. Think there's any chance of walking into an Apple Store on launch day and picking up a maxed out MBP in the spot?
 
That's what I was wondering: how many of the 15" folks would be getting a 17" if it were offered? Let's say, with 32 GB of RAM and a 4K screen?

I probably wouldn't, as enticing as it sounds, because it would cross the line into not being portable enough. 15" is a perfect balance between desktop replacement and portability.

Once you taste the 13", there's no coming back.
However, after trying the best of the "regular" 13" for 2016 (this one http://www.apple.com/no/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MF841H/A&step=config#) I really regret to not have maxed it out.

So what I'll do with this one (if I go for it), is maxing it out on the processor and the RAM. Did that on my 2013 model, and it was more powerful than my current one in 2015 !
 
I really hate the way Apple have set up the models/prices. Hopefully it's a little different this time around, but just looking at the current specs/price points for example...

I'd rather a 15 inch, but my only two options for 15 inch is 256GB (not enough) or 512GB (doable, but $3,799 - I have $4,000 set aside but I'd rather not spend all of it if it can be avoided lol). So if I accept that I'll need to get a 13 inch, the only 512GB option I have is $2,799, but I'm sacrificing the specs of the 15 (i7 down to i5, 16GB down to 8GB). So it's either spend $1,000 more or have worse specs OR just not have enough space for anything.

I guess I could go the 256GB 15 inch ($3,099) and then just change the storage to 512GB (+$480, totalling $3,579 instead of $3,799). But that also then delays the delivery time. First world problems.

Here's hoping they have a better selection this time around lol. Anyway, thinking out loud over.


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I just priced this 15" with applecare for 3350 and it has already 1TB. With 512GB it would be 500 less. How do you get to these high prices?

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The 15" already technically has that problem - My 15" rMBP already has trouble in certain situations, especially airplanes and some college chair-desk combos in classrooms. A person who buys a larger laptop understands this. Not every place where "portability is remotely necessary" is the size of an Airplane tray table.

Portability is relative - For the performance the 17" Razer Blade offers, I consider it quite portable. I can take a laptop with the performance of desktop GTX 1080 to school, library, class, or lab. Saying a 17" takes away the essence of a laptop is about as idiotic as saying 15" takes away the essence as well and that the 13" is the only 'true' portable machine, when I see some students carrying PC laptops 2-3 times as thick and heavy.
Portability is relative to each case scenario, I agree on your point there. However look at the scope it falls into. It's like saying "Physical beauty is relative". Sure, yeah, a model on a front page (male OR female) might look like a "9" to some, 8.5 to others, 9.5 to some, but you'll find nobody to say that the wholly agreed on model is a 2 out of 10. Everything has a scope that it comfortably and realistically falls inside of. For a 17" laptop, the scope of pure portability will always be less than that of a 13". Next, will you argue that taking a 21.5" laptop to school and an airplane is any remotely connected to the word "portable" at all? What about a 23"? Look at the scope. Realistically a 17" laptop from Apple will never, RELATIVELY, be as portable as a 12" or 13" laptop from Apple.
 
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Does anyone know if Apple historically stocks popular BTO configurations (as I imagine this would be) in any of their retail stores? I'm talking about stores in big markets like NYC. Think there's any chance of walking into an Apple Store on launch day and picking up a maxed out MBP in the spot?

0 to .5%. Probably will only have base and top (mid), especially if multiple colors.
 
New rMBPs coming next week! Yay! Yay! Yay!
My current Late 2011 MBP is starting to get to the point where the fans run loudly and constantly and it has to be plugged in all the time... so seeing that there is going to be an event on the 27th makes me happy(er). :p
 
This is too obvious, hello ( again ) the 17" talking here... time to bring back the beef since apple got contenders in terms of tech compared to back then
 
This is just a tip:

Due to the conflicts of having dual GPUs (dGPU and iGPU) if I were to get a rMBP (Late 2016) I would go for the iGPU only model.

Now I know this may sound like a headache, but if the prices are right and the dGPU is good, then sure go for it, BUT, I have been looking at some of these eGPU Rigs and man I gotta say TB2/3 is gonna be sick for all of us if we still want to do PC gaming.

I mean you can get an eGPU box with two Titan 1080s and connect to your Mac Pro or rMBP all the way down to MacBook Air, TB2 looks ready and TB3 coming or already here too.

I don't quite know but if you could find a PCIe 3.0 expansion chassis that would be S(L)ICK for like 10 years!

Think about having an iGPU for web browsing having fun doing simple stuff, and then every one to two years, if you guys like getting 2 new NVIDIA gaming GPUs and plopping them in, going thru the configuration and drivers, and loading up.

Thing is this seems to be the future of GPUs, honestly they keep getting updated so quickly (like yearly).

But you could disconnect from the GPU power house and then go back to couch with just the iGPU, no bugs no GPU switching etc.

I'd go for the iGPU only... (unless the dGPU is just SICK or BOSS) :p

Laters...
 
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What would you guys rather have? 13 and 15 inch form factor with 14 and 16 inch screens

or

12 and 14 inch form factor with 13 and 15 inch screens
 
I just want to bring up this post. This is the first mention of a Magic Toolbar here on this thread. The comment was posted on June 2 so it was after Kou's OLED bar rumor. This DarkerGuy or DarkNetGuy or whatever he's called seemed to be a joke at first but he got the name of the touch bar right. Should we expect $100 cheaper base models?
I was the One that foud "DarknetGuy", leaks, and i still taking loads of salt. whatever the Magic Toolbar, seems to me either a random match or maybe some how this guy its connected with some one at apple just, he failed miserably on mos of the dates about the new mac releases (august the last one).

What i believe is the new 5K display wont be Thunderbolt 3, just USB-C/DisplayPort 1.3, and a 4K 21" thunderbolt display maybe the only true thunderbolt display, as no integrated gpu or optional.
 
What would you guys rather have? 13 and 15 inch form factor with 14 and 16 inch screens

or

12 and 14 inch form factor with 13 and 15 inch screens

13 and 15 inch form factor with 14 and 16 inch screens.

The latter is more likely, though. The bezels look so dated.
 
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That's what I was wondering: how many of the 15" folks would be getting a 17" if it were offered? Let's say, with 32 GB of RAM and a 4K screen?

I probably wouldn't, as enticing as it sounds, because it would cross the line into not being portable enough. 15" is a perfect balance between desktop replacement and portability.

I would get a 17" without a second thought. And it would be easier to make it more powerful, I would max that sucker out.

I don't know why all the hate on dGPUs. I have my late 2008 which was the first to have it and have had zero issues. I hardly ever used it for the first few years then I turned that puppy on and really speed my laptop up.
 
Portability is relative to each case scenario, I agree on your point there. However look at the scope it falls into. It's like saying "Physical beauty is relative". Sure, yeah, a model on a front page (male OR female) might look like a "9" to some, 8.5 to others, 9.5 to some, but you'll find nobody to say that the wholly agreed on model is a 2 out of 10. Everything has a scope that it comfortably and realistically falls inside of. For a 17" laptop, the scope of pure portability will always be less than that of a 13". Next, will you argue that taking a 21.5" laptop to school and an airplane is any remotely connected to the word "portable" at all? What about a 23"? Look at the scope. Realistically a 17" laptop from Apple will never, RELATIVELY, be as portable as a 12" or 13" laptop from Apple.
Realistically, a Macbook Pro will never, RELATIVELY, be as portable as a Macbook Air. That doesn't mean people all prefer the Air over the Pro. It's a matter of tradeoffs, and there are quite a few people who would love the power of a 17" model, and still find it portable enough.
 
I would get a 17" without a second thought. And it would be easier to make it more powerful, I would max that sucker out.

I don't know why all the hate on dGPUs. I have my late 2008 which was the first to have it and have had zero issues. I hardly ever used it for the first few years then I turned that puppy on and really speed my laptop up.
The problem I heard is that you cant really turn the gpu on or off manually. So if theres a program like Chrome or some other app turns on the dgpu for some reason then its just unnecessary fan noise and heat. My friend has this issue with Ableton Live and it pisses him off
 
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I just priced this 15" with applecare for 3350 and it has already 1TB. With 512GB it would be 500 less. How do you get to these high prices?

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  • 2.5GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.7GHz
  • 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
  • 1TB PCIe-based Flash Storage
  • Intel Iris Pro Graphics + AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2GB GDDR5 memory
  • Force Touch trackpad
  • Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide
  • Accessory Kit

Australian dollars. :)
 
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